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Originally posted by deepgirl187:
If no one else has done it already, welcome to the site. Don't forget to ask FollowMal for your Browncoat.

I completely agree with you on that point. I never thought about that before, but it would make sense that they wouldn't want that association. I do wonder if that was Joss and Tim's original intent, though.

At last.
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Originally posted by IndigoStarblaster:
It could be that our scientific understanding advances in the next 500 years and we discover there is actually more than one "universe". There are various science fiction stories out there using the term "multiverse" and exploring the implication of "pocket universes" created out of bubbles of time/space. There are also lots of stories using the idea of "parallel universes".

I have no idea if any of these ideas have any real science behind them. But the term 'verse might come into general use if we ever do discover such things.

Indigo S.

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On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave.

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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:

Still an interesting theory though, that they wouldn't want the conotation of "unification" in their speech, but if that was the case it would probably be considered treason and such. Plus it's not just browncoats who say it that way. Not all the characters were in the war, after all.

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Originally posted by NewBrownCoat:
Actually, there is a lot of "real science" behind the multiverse concept. It is central to the Many-Worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics.

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Originally posted by NewBrownCoat:
Actually, there is a lot of "real science" behind the multiverse concept. It is central to the Many-Worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics.

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Among others...

Here is a good reference for multiverse theories in science: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse_%28science%29

I prefer M-Theory and its 11 dimensions of space-time.

Heh, this reminds me of an Angel episode, when Fred gives her presentation on "Supersymmetry and P-Dimensional Subspace".

Fred: “Oh, God! I'm between Ed Witten and Brian Greene? (no reaction from Angel or Gunn) Think Nomar Garciaparra and Sammy Sosa.”

Ed Witten being the founder of M-Theory and one of the most brilliant men ever to set foot on this rock, probably a better analogy would be Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods wrapped into one. Brian Greene being mostly known for his bestselling novel "The Elegant Universe: Superstrings, Hidden Dimensions, and the Quest for the Ultimate Theory".

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Originally posted by FollowMal:
*Whistles into thread after a hard day working on the June 23rd mission? project? thing? yea the thing?*

Hey, NewBrownCoat! Welcome home. Cuz this is a home. Been full of bickering lately, but it'll come round right again. We have been so busy figuring out the right way to participate in the June 23rd thing.. that I've let my 'coat duties get behind.

*hands NewBrownCoat a browncoat*

There you are.. you became a Browncoat the minute you fell in love with the show.. but this sort of is a way to say.. we're so proud you've joined us.

I hope someone comes along and offers you some food. We used to have a fairly shiny welcoming committee here, but lately... we'll you'll have to forgive us.

I'm so glad you are here.

*waves and whistles out of the thread.. back to her duties*







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One plan.
One army of Browncoats.

On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave!

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Well, you could be right. I just can't think of an example of another character where you could be certain the character was not a Browncoat, or at least of an independents mindset, that used the word "verse".

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What about Simon? (He lived in the core most of his life; we even see a scene of him and River where she's playing war and they've been outflanked by the Independents.) In OiS he says "I don't think my last act in this 'verse is going to be betraying my sister."
Maybe he picked it up just being on the ship, and obviously he's not too fond of the alliance anymore, but he says it like he grew up saying it... Too bad they never say anything like it in the flashback scenes.

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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:

What about Simon? (He lived in the core most of his life; we even see a scene of him and River where she's playing war and they've been outflanked by the Independents.) In OiS he says "I don't think my last act in this 'verse is going to be betraying my sister."
Maybe he picked it up just being on the ship, and obviously he's not too fond of the alliance anymore, but he says it like he grew up saying it... Too bad they never say anything like it in the flashback scenes.

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Originally posted by RocketJock:
Actually, what I find more fascinating than the shortening of the word "Universe" to "'Verse" -- which appears to me to be nothing but simple linguistic drift -- is the way inhabitants of this single solar system think of it as being synonymous with both the galaxy, and the universe as a whole.

The opening narrations refer to a "Galaxy of Earths." Mal refers to there being "More than seventy Earths spinnin' around the galaxy", and even The Operative--clearly an educated man -- refers to members of Parlement making every important decision "in the galaxy."

Except for acknowledging the (former) existence of Earth-that-was, the entire 'Verse (by which I mean the single terraformed solar system we see on the show) seems to think of this one system as the whole of creation. As if Americans thought of the entire world being only the original thirteen colonies and the remains of Atlantis...

Mental block? Or cultural conditioning? What do you think?

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