SERENITY DAY ON SEPTEMBER 30th! by Agatsu

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SERENITY DAY ON SEPTEMBER 30th!

POSTED BY: AGATSU
UPDATED: Sunday, April 30, 2006 04:41
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Friday, April 28, 2006 5:18 AM

Well, since Kaele seems nowhere to be found, and September 30th has won the vote, anyways, and nobody seems to know what is going on and everyone is waiting for something "official", here's your official: Why don't we just declare that

SEPTEMBER 30TH IS SERENITY DAY.

I mean, we're fighting and argueing for days, and there is no leadership, no, but a VOTE IN FAVOR OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, so what the hell are we waiting for?

And I mean it.

I, Agatsu, newbie, hereby declare that the will of the Browncoats after this vote is for Serenity Day to be held on September 30th.

So there.
If anyone objects, speak up now, if not, let's get going. I still don't wanna lead this thing, but seeing that we're floating in the black, SOMEONE has to "make something official".
Bash me, flame me, slash me, maim me, but for as long as nobody more capable comes along (who won't be hard to find, and I'll gladly pass the torch), I'll at least lead this thing to wherever you tell me to go.
I don't wanna take over this thing, I just want it ruttin' DONE already.

So if I'm not going to get bashed to hell for doing this outrageous thing, I'd like some volunteers to get things going again. I'd much rather be just part of a council than "leader" or something.

Serenity Summer Campaign for teh win!1!!

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Serenity Day on September 30th for maximum sexual pleasure!

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Friday, April 28, 2006 5:25 AM

SAMEERTIA

Well, if my maximum sexual pleasure is involved, I'm IN!

Are we still thinking Serenity Summer, with events etc kicking off right after the Equality Now viewings on June 23rd?

Kaele, we are not stealing leadership from you, If you want it back, step in and say so, But we have to work as a team if this is going to happen, and that means having the support of ALL the Browncoats, not just the ones on this board.

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Friday, April 28, 2006 5:30 AM

AGATSU

People seemed to like the idea, so we're going with the Serenity Summer Campaign plan with September 30th as Serenity Day, the day we end a summer (and a few days of fall) of fun with a BANG!
That is, if the majority doesn't object.
It's still a democracy, after all.

But the majority seemed to like it, so let's go.

And yes, cooperating with the other fansites is absolutely neccessary.

Serenity Summer Campaign for teh win!1!!

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Serenity Day on September 30th for maximum sexual pleasure!

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Friday, April 28, 2006 6:34 AM

JOSSISAGOD

In a way Serenity Day one September 30th makes sense. IT IS the aniversary of the opening day after all!

JOSSIS(Most Definitely)AGOD

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Friday, April 28, 2006 6:56 AM

DEWRASTLER

I'm in for a Serenity Summer Campaign starting on June 23rd and having Serentiy Day on September 30th.

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Friday, April 28, 2006 7:03 AM

KURYA

Hi.
Well since I will be busy with stuff(and i have a thesis to write... gorramit I procrastinate too much!!)
I cant help out now.

To help reconcile the differences, may I suggest, besides pushing for support for the charity, allowing people to buy the dvds on June 23rd, if they really want to.

Just have Sept 30th as the preferential day for the sales boost, but if you are impatient and have a good reason(have a library lined up, want to show it to some friends or give as gifts), then let them buy for june 23rd. Thats just my humble opinion.

And in terms of getting on board big sites, how about the admin of this website? I am sure serenitymovie.net would be interested. And I am sure Gossi would be in favour of pushing this if its properly managed and has a proper goal...

And what about the folks at the propero firefly board?

Prakash

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Friday, April 28, 2006 7:13 AM

AGATSU

We don't wanna keep people from buying on June 23rd, since a lot have asked for it, but they should focus on Sept 30th if possible.
Since there's some birthdays this summer, I'll purchase some copies on June 23rd, as well, since I can't go back in time in September. So I'm all for it. It's not like we wanna keep people from doing something. We're all reasonable about this. Just please don't start a June 23rd buying frenzy, because Serenity Day will fail if not enough people buy the DVD on that day. That was the point.

Okay, so here we go (again):
If ANYONE from the old council is reading this, or the people who already had their missions, like the signal corps, etc., please post here and let's reorganise and get going again, (if you're down with "The Plan" TM).
And new volunteers are always welcome, too. I'll post a new plan of what we need done when I get back in a few hours, and then we can assign volunteers. We need a few more comments on this, anyways.

I'm off for a few hours, and really interested in how this is gonna develop.

Always remember... we're all in this together. Play nice.

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Serenity Day on September 30th for maximum sexual pleasure!

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Friday, April 28, 2006 7:57 AM

ROLANDREYNOLDS

Agatsu,

I guess you missed Kaele's post in the vote thread, as well as your inbox of late, or the email didn't make it there for some reason.

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Friday, April 28, 2006 8:33 AM

KURYA

Yeah...well some of us...would like to see this campaign evolve in a different direction...and while Kaele is the leader, a good chunk of the people who voted in that thread, wanted a change(majority). Unless Kaele's vote is more important(is she worth 10 votes, or 200?) than any of the others... it is still the case.
Prakash

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Friday, April 28, 2006 8:47 AM

JOZEF

one important thing to note is that amazon tracks by orders not by items so if you want to move something up their ranking make four orders for one dvd not one order for five dvd's

I read this in an article about people trying to move a book up in amazons ranking the following is a quote from a blog talking about the article (nissley is the senior books editor at amazon.
the original article can be found at

http://nationalreview.com/york/york200604281038.asp

POSTSCRIPT: By the way, York's article contains some useful advice: "We rank by orders, not by sales," Nissley says. "We only count orders — we count an order of 1,000 copies the same as an order of one." So if you're trying to goose somebody's ranking, be sure to place five orders for one book each instead of one order for five books.

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Friday, April 28, 2006 9:01 AM

RALEIGHBROWNCOAT

Quote:
Originally posted by jozef:
one important thing to note is that amazon tracks by orders not by items so if you want to move something up their ranking make four orders for one dvd not one order for five dvd's

You know, if that's the case, then I find the fact that the FF DVD is ranked in the top 10 right now, 2 1/2 years after it was released, really amazing. Of course, it does not tell you how many orders that is, but those strong sales have got to mean something to somebody, don't you think?

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Friday, April 28, 2006 9:32 AM

11THHOUR

Quote:
Originally posted by jozef:
one important thing to note is that amazon tracks by orders not by items so if you want to move something up their ranking make four orders for one dvd not one order for five dvd's

In addition to purchasing from Amazon (and it'd be great if folks click through using the link on this site to help drop some coin to support it), fans can also purchase Serenity DVDs from the Universal Home Entertainment website.

That would be a very direct way of communicating the sales numbers right to Universal... plus they may even make more of a profit that way.

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Friday, April 28, 2006 10:07 AM

KURYA

I am guessing that too... unless... it is done through a third party :S is there anyway to be sure?

And in terms of buying dvds, there should be a preferential order:

1) Buy Dvds from Universal site

2) Buy it from a local independent store.

3) if not the other two, then buy from amazon, through this site(or serenitymovie.org, i think maybe even serenitymovie.net too.. ) to support the site.

Prakash

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http://serenitymtl.blogspot.com

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Friday, April 28, 2006 10:16 AM

BLUEMOONSTUFF

Quote:
Originally posted by Agatsu:
Well, since Kaele seems nowhere to be found,

I just talked to her yesterday about the shirts. Far as I know we are still going for the 6/23 push and efforts after that are to continue.

She is a busy gal. A LOT going on in her life right now and I'm sure she doesn't have time to do "hourly updates" for everyone. Things are moving along - time and money has been invested in this project and it will happen.

One day.
One mission.
One army of Browncoats.

On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave.

http://www.serenityday.org

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Friday, April 28, 2006 10:37 AM

AZHEA

I, for one, will purchase on both 6/23 and 9/30... what's an extra $20 amongst friends.

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Friday, April 28, 2006 10:57 AM

RIVERGIRL

Its really too late to change from June 23

theatre have advertised and believe they are mostly doing favors for those who worked so hard to make June 23 happen

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

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Friday, April 28, 2006 11:00 AM

WHOISRIVER

Rivergirl, they aren't on about moving the theatre charity screenings to September -- they're on about the other June 23rd thing.

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Friday, April 28, 2006 11:36 AM

IANW

i've communicated my idea before but i don't think i've posted it on the fff.net yet.

I think this is a great idea to read up:

I believe that we sould all push to purchase the dvds on june 23rd. That will be the big buying day. Also, write the letters to joss for a thank you, universal for a thank you and fox for a f*** you (j/k on the fox thing:tounge:) The letters will give details to what to expect over the coming months, what is happening on june 23rd and what will happen on serenity day. That way they know, no matter if there's a blip on the sales or some headlines on the news.

from june 24th to sapt 29th, that will be when we schedule events that we can participate in our own way: for example: July 29th will be flyer day

or August 12th will be shindig day (private viewing and charge 2 bucks or whatever to raise money for the event)

I'm seriously thinking of buying 4-5 movie boards and auctioning them off on e-bay to raise money

the big question is, what do we do september 30th? june 23rd is spend money day, but what's going to be the special event on serenity day? we need somthing that will hook old browncoats and fans that don't know it yet (let's face it, everyone is a browncoat, they just don't know it).

I think the charity thing is a GREAT idea, but it's being done already.. we need somthing new and fresh. Somthing that hasn't been done before like E.N.S.N.

brainstorm session!

-Ian

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Friday, April 28, 2006 11:49 AM

KURYA

hey.
well the idea is that june 23rd is too soon to have a big big dvd sales push.... since it requires time to recruit at cons etc... the idea is that after a summer of promoting and campaigning on the anniversay of the North american release buy the dvds, that when most of the people(old and new, and some recent converts) to buy the dvd as a show of support, strength and thank you to Universal. A gradual buildup of numbers. The idea is that we can get X amount of people for june 23rd, but if we work throughtout the summer, we can get 2*X or 10*X as many people for Sept 30th. People recruit people, who recruit people...a cascading effect.

Anyways...I cant help out now unfortunately... but after June 23rd, I will see what I can do to lend my hand to have this campaign go forward.... I wont be able to lead... god I suck at that... but I wouldnt mind being part of a council. Do we need one leader? can't we have a few people coordinate(like 3 or 4)... the running of the campaign? I wouldnt mind being a co-facilitator.

Prakash
PS
In terms of writing letters of thank you on June 23rd, I wouldnt be opposed to that, but I wouldnt want to tell them details.... it would be nice to have them pleasant surprises. Just to tell them the fandom is here, we are not going away, and are committed to expanding the fnadom. Or something like that. What I am worried about is that if we give them details, plans change or things dont work out(and following Murphy's Laws... they might/will), they might be disappointed.. and think we are all a bunch of yahoos...

ETA : In terms of charity, from henceforth onwards I Kurya, aka Prakash, will claim june 23rd for 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010, will be charity day of action, and nobody will be allowed to take that day since I called it FIRST! :P After 2010, its up for grabs. So shall it be written, so shall it be done. *this last bit was purely tongue in cheek humour*

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Friday, April 28, 2006 12:03 PM

KURYA

Ok another thought, blasphemous, and scandolous, and feel free to tell me to go suck an egg....or preferably lettuce since I am vegetarian and dont eat eggs.

It seems Kaele and her ilk are determined to go for june 23rd push for DVD sales. I dunno if there is anyway to convince them to change, but it seems less and less likely as time goes by.

So how about we go for the Serenity Summer Campaign to end on the day Big Damn Anniversay, and create a separate entity campaign. Since Serenity Day lead by Kaele et al, is going for June 23rd, we won't be conflicting with them or others.

Can we come up with a simple comprehensive plan? And have it cross posted on all of the other forums to ask for volunteers for that and potential co-facilitators? Maybe ask some big whigs to help out? (gossi, jeremy...)
Prakash

PS
I guess I should suggest 3 big problems with this though:
1) this would be considered mutinous, and be looked down upon by the June 23rd workers and supporters.
2) Create another schism in the fandom(oh joy)
3) confuse people even further.

In terms of Universal, I dont think they would care as long as there are DVD sales, and it seems the fandom is involved somewhat, even if its in different campaigns(and not one behemouth campaign). Even though technically this wouldnt be overriding others...

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Friday, April 28, 2006 12:35 PM

BENTOR78

everyone should know - we're playing Serenity September 29th and 30th at the Bryn Mawr Film Institute in Philadelphia, PA!

To celebrate the one year anniversary. midnight, friday and saturday...

www.brynmawrfilm.org

!!!!

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Friday, April 28, 2006 12:51 PM

KURYA

so sept 30th is taken? GOD D**M IT MOTH*&^*&$%^$ T&U^%# oh le sigh.... :p
Prakash
PS
that is very coool..... great to hear!

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Friday, April 28, 2006 6:56 PM

AGATSU

*bump*

Serenity Summer Campaign for teh win!1!!

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Serenity Day on September 30th for maximum sexual pleasure!

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Saturday, April 29, 2006 8:16 PM

ROLANDREYNOLDS

...1) this would be considered mutinous, and be looked down upon by the June 23rd workers and supporters.

I sincerely don't think this is in any way a "June 23rd people" VS. "All other plans" thing. For the good of all, I think we should pay careful attention to not characterize it in these 'VS.', 'Us and Them' kinds of ways. It just isn't the way of it.

There have been some conflicts, and we've gotten a little confused and scattered in places, but things are still moving. It is because things have started moving in really hard to stop ways that the June 23rd Serenity Day plan is still going on. I was asked to help work on this, and I'm going to do my best. And I really don't see how that is in any way going to prevent me from helping work on any September 30th movements as well. And I'll want to! (if any will have me, of course).

I don't think any of us has to arbitrarily take a "moral stance" or something against one side or another because of differing opinions. Even though there are problems with the June 23rd plan (what plan doesn't?) I am still going to do everything I can to make it as successful as possible, because I realize that it is going to happen regardless of whether I help or not. Since these are fellow, well-meaning Browncoats working behind it, I am going to help them with their original plan. After that, I hope to take advantage of the relatively longer amount of planning time to do September 30th work as well. I will humbly ask that anyone who feels able to work on both (even in small ways), please, do so. We CAN do it all, even if some of us have to go about it one piece at a time. Once June 23rd is over, we'll all have the next thing to work on, which is the Summer Campaign (which can and is being worked on already), and Sept. 30th, which is also going to go on no matter what.

"There are obstacles in our path, and we're going to deal with them. One by one."

Thanks to everyone for your passion and your hard work. Let's keep flyin'.

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Saturday, April 29, 2006 9:54 PM

JUTIN

This is the most retarded thing I've ever heard of... word was finally starting to spread that if we love the verse that we show it on June 23rd... most of us had questions about what to do and now the chance is very good that half of the people will show support on June 23rd and the other half will show support on September 30th...

Thanks for fucking the plans up...

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Saturday, April 29, 2006 11:42 PM

AGATSU

Quote:
Originally posted by JuTin:
This is the most retarded thing I've ever heard of... word was finally starting to spread that if we love the verse that we show it on June 23rd... most of us had questions about what to do and now the chance is very good that half of the people will show support on June 23rd and the other half will show support on September 30th...

Thanks for fucking the plans up...

Well, stuff happened since then. Believe me, I wanted for everything to go smooth, too, but that's life, always messing up a good plan.

BROWNCOATS UNITE!
Serenity Day on SEPTEMBER 30th for maximum sexual pleasure!
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Sunday, April 30, 2006 3:43 AM

J6NGO1977

No you are all wrong Serenity day is on January 10th, my birthday. LOL

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Sunday, April 30, 2006 4:41 AM

DEWRASTLER

The only way either of these days will fail is if this arguing keeps going on. We can't divide ourselves as committed to only one specific day, that is the only way each will 'bomb' as has been stated. If we all support each other than nothing will 'bomb'. What we do is this: Buy DVDs on June 23rd. Take these DVDs and use them to help spread the word and along with shindigs and conventions and what not we get more converts. If you donate it to someplace try and get a little note inside talking about the series and how if the person likes it they should come to the Serenity Day website and other fansites and support the cause. Then we and these new converts then buy DVDs on September 30th. The way I see it its an even bigger impact because even more DVDs will be sold.

THis entire movement is exactly that, a movement and not a one day or two day event. We need numbers to work, and we won't get that arguing amongst ourselves. Too much arguing will just make both days a failure when we could be working to make the whole movement a success.

One day.
One plan.
One army of Browncoats.

On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave.

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