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Originally posted by Succatash:

Who votes for 11th Hour?

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Originally posted by Succatash:
Continued from the Voting Thread. http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=20150&m=293467

Being of sound mind and only a few beers, Succatash and the House of Strangefinger hereby nominate 11th Hour to be the official Marketing Director and Fan Leader of FireflyFans.net.

If 11th Hour accepts this volunteer position, she will fulfill the following duties:

1. Oversee official Fireflyfans.net activities to promote Firefly/Serenity.

2. Be willing to listen and respond to Fireflyfans.net members, and to communicate decisions effectively.

3. Perform Public Relations duties on behalf of Fireflyfans.net.

Who votes for 11th Hour?

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Originally posted by Succatash:

24 Hours in a Day
Only one 11th Hour

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Originally posted by Succatash:
If 11th Hour accepts, everyone is truly lucky.

I don't see how this stops any fans from doing whatever they want, whenever they want.

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But an event officially endorsed by Fireflyfans.net would be run by 11th Hour.

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I hope she makes a shiny new FFF logo.

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I hope she doesn't kick my ass.

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24 Hours in a Day
Only one 11th Hour

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Originally posted by Agatsu:
Don't take this the wrong way, Tash, but I'd like to hear HAKEN say that. :)

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About 11th Hour becoming leader...
Well, a brick could do a better job than Kaele is doing atm,

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11th Hour, I'm with you until you get powerhungry or crazy and I'ma have to put you down. Deal?

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Just remember you are working for everyone and not the other way around.

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Yeppers. Firefly/Serenity fans pretty much do as they please, bless 'em... Rule #1 - There Ain't No Rules!

Well, a brick could do a better job than Kaele is doing atm, because she is working AGAINST what we want. I don't care HOW MUCH she is doing, since she is doing it for the wrong ruttin day and the wrong ruttin reasons and NOT for us Browncoats, brushing reason and all the votes and pros for September 30th aside to go through with what SHE thinks is best for us.

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Originally posted by EmpXenu:

Okay, can someone explain how these two statements go together? "working AGAINST what we want", "wrong ruttin day", "NOT for us Browncoats"? I consider myself one of those but I don't recall giving you permission to speak for me. You have a tally of a few dozen votes and you're already considering the issue settled. It's ironic how you lash out at this Kaele person for thinking she knows what's best for everyone. Organise all you want for September but let others do the same for whenever they feel. People who feel inclined to buy the movie on 9/30 will do so, those who want to do it on any other date will do so. If you want them to get it on a specific date, do your best to convince them why but you're putting down someone with the same intentions. We're not an ant colony, we're a diverse group of people with different mindsets and opinions who just happen to have one thing in common. Being an Independent isn't peaches and cream all the time, eh?

One little fact I'd like to emphasize is that every sold copy helps, no matter what day it's acquired on. When I first heard about this Serenity day thing I thought it was a nice way of showing appreciation for something we love but after all this ruckus, I'm not sure if I'll be a part of it. You can be sure I'll always be ready to spread the word to anyone who will listen though.

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:


Wow Dudes.

How did a simple thing like being a fan become political?

So far as I can tell, the primo boss owner of this web site picked some hot chick in a latex outfit named 11th hour to be the spokesperson for web site activities.

So far as I can tell, some other chick named Kaele (sp?) has planned some alternative activities and is promoting them.

So why the need to bash one and hug the other? They're both promoting the cause. And that guy with the charity is promoting the cause, too. So it's an orgy of goodness. You don't have to pick one over the other. You can have them all.

Tell you what, we'll probably end up having two blips on the radar, instead of just one. Is that so bad?

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Rule #1 - There Ain't No Rules!

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:


Wow Dudes.

How did a simple thing like being a fan become political?

So far as I can tell, the primo boss owner of this web site picked some hot chick in a latex outfit named 11th hour to be the spokesperson for web site activities.

So far as I can tell, some other chick named Kaele (sp?) has planned some alternative activities and is promoting them.

So why the need to bash one and hug the other? They're both promoting the cause. And that guy with the charity is promoting the cause, too. So it's an orgy of goodness. You don't have to pick one over the other. You can have them all.

Tell you what, we'll probably end up having two blips on the radar, instead of just one. Is that so bad?

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Tell you what, we'll probably end up having two blips on the radar, instead of just one. Is that so bad?

--Anthony

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I keep saying that.

Hey AnthonyT, come join the crowd:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=20228&m=293768

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Tell you what, we'll probably end up having two blips on the radar, instead of just one. Is that so bad?

--Anthony

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I keep saying that.

Hey AnthonyT, come join the crowd:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=20228&m=293768

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Well, I keep saying that ONE huge impact is better than TWO medium sized tremors, especially PR-wise. Everyone is free to do what they want, though, and buying the DVDs is never a bad thing, but the whoooole point that started this whooooooole issue was to buy the DVDs, united, on ONE day. Apart from that, the sales on the SECOND date would have to be higher no matter what, or it'd look like we're losing fans, and some Browncoats may not be willing to spend money again.

I'm gonna be so glad when this is over and I can spend more time in the fun threads...


BROWNCOATS UNITE!
Serenity Day on September 30th for maximum sexual pleasure!

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Yeppers. Firefly/Serenity fans pretty much do as they please, bless 'em... Rule #1 - There Ain't No Rules!

Well, a brick could do a better job than Kaele is doing atm, because she is working AGAINST what we want. I don't care HOW MUCH she is doing, since she is doing it for the wrong ruttin day and the wrong ruttin reasons and NOT for us Browncoats, brushing reason and all the votes and pros for September 30th aside to go through with what SHE thinks is best for us.

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Okay, can someone explain how these two statements go together?

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"working AGAINST what we want", "wrong ruttin day", "NOT for us Browncoats"? I consider myself one of those but I don't recall giving you permission to speak for me. You have a tally of a few dozen votes and you're already considering the issue settled. It's ironic how you lash out at this Kaele person for thinking she knows what's best for everyone.

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Organise all you want for September but let others do the same for whenever they feel. People who feel inclined to buy the movie on 9/30 will do so, those who want to do it on any other date will do so.

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If you want them to get it on a specific date, do your best to convince them why but you're putting down someone with the same intentions.

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We're not an ant colony, we're a diverse group of people with different mindsets and opinions who just happen to have one thing in common. Being an Independent isn't peaches and cream all the time, eh?

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One little fact I'd like to emphasize is that every sold copy helps, no matter what day it's acquired on. When I first heard about this Serenity day thing I thought it was a nice way of showing appreciation for something we love but after all this ruckus, I'm not sure if I'll be a part of it. You can be sure I'll always be ready to spread the word to anyone who will listen though.

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Originally posted by ianw:
i'm sorry, the way i look at it, i dont' see any reason to argue and this is just upsetting

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Originally posted by Agatsu:

Ah, it's a long and ugly story, even if it happened quite fast. Now that there's a vote up on vote.serenityday.org, it'll all be settled soon.

It isn't about Kaele vs 11th Hour, though,it's June 23rd vs September 30th for Serenity Day.

And even if September 30th is decided on, and after all the anger, I'd still be fine with Kaele being in charge of organising Serenity Day, as long as she is willing to listen to people and respect their wishes and not think that she has "the power". Like in a committee... comitee.. comm... council that talks about what's supposed to happen and what the people want.
Prima Inter Pares. First among equals. "Equals" being the key word here. As long as she agrees with that term for her, and the meaning, I'm willing to serve the will of the Browncoat community under her supervision.
I don't care as long as the one taking the "job" does it right and relies on the council and the favor of the Browncoat community.

So, as you see, it's not about someone versus someone, at least not for me.


BROWNCOATS UNITE!
Serenity Day on September 30th for maximum sexual pleasure!

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Originally posted by Zisker:
Ok, I've been staying out of this, and this is the only post I'll make on this subject - but I think this is really, really unfair to Kaele.

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