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Matrix Reloaded?

POSTED BY: DANIELFYRE
UPDATED: Thursday, May 4, 2006 03:20
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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 8:39 AM

DANIELFYRE


I was on the "you know you're a browncoat if..." thread and someone mentioned something about not caring who the starring actors are in the following movies. One of the movies listed was Reloaded. What firefly cast member is in Reloaded?

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 9:11 AM

SPIKEANDJEZEBEL


Gina Torres (Zoe) had a small part in both Matrix sequels.

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 9:12 AM

MILFORD


I do my best not to hold that against her.

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 9:26 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Can we consider it her duty in support of her hubby??? Something she did, but she wasn't happy about it?


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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 9:29 AM

SOFI


thats how i always think of it. but still, it must be hard having to stoop from ginas level to lawrences... i pity her.

sides, we all know whos better with a gun... or a fist of dirt for that matter.

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 9:29 AM

SOFI


thats how i always think of it. but still, it must be hard having to stoop from ginas level to lawrences... i pity her.

sides, we all know whos better with a gun... or a fist of dirt for that matter.

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"the legs. oh, yeah. definitely have to say it was her legs. you can put that down. her legs and where her legs meet her back. in fact, that whole area. and... above it..."

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 9:29 AM

SOFI


thats how i always think of it. but still, it must be hard having to stoop from ginas level to lawrences... i pity her.

sides, we all know whos better with a gun... or a fist of dirt for that matter.

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"the legs. oh, yeah. definitely have to say it was her legs. you can put that down. her legs and where her legs meet her back. in fact, that whole area. and... above it..."

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 9:29 AM

SOFI


thats how i always think of it. but still, it must be hard having to stoop from ginas level to lawrences... i pity her.

sides, we all know whos better with a gun... or a fist of dirt for that matter.

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"the legs. oh, yeah. definitely have to say it was her legs. you can put that down. her legs and where her legs meet her back. in fact, that whole area. and... above it..."

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 9:29 AM

SOFI


thats how i always think of it. but still, it must be hard having to stoop from ginas level to lawrences... i pity her.

sides, we all know whos better with a gun... or a fist of dirt for that matter.

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"the legs. oh, yeah. definitely have to say it was her legs. you can put that down. her legs and where her legs meet her back. in fact, that whole area. and... above it..."

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 9:29 AM

SOFI


thats how i always think of it. but still, it must be hard having to stoop from ginas level to lawrences... i pity her.

sides, we all know whos better with a gun... or a fist of dirt for that matter.

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"the legs. oh, yeah. definitely have to say it was her legs. you can put that down. her legs and where her legs meet her back. in fact, that whole area. and... above it..."

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 9:30 AM

MILFORD


That's a nice way to think about it, spousal obligation. I like Mr. Fishburne as well, so I forgive them both.

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 11:05 AM

RIVERSGUY


I think we all read too much into the sequels. The first was a breakaway, dare I say it, revolutionary piece of cinema and the sequels were billed as the Wachowski Brothers mantel for greatness. But they disappointed. Fair enough. But try watch them again and just try to enjoy them without comparing them to The Matrix and you will just see them for what they really are.

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 11:17 AM

NEEDY

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Actually its funny you mention that, here in the UK, terrestrial channel ITV have been playing the Matrix movies - Monday "The Matrix", Tuesday "Matrix Reloaded" and right now as I type this, my sister's in the other room watching "Revolutions"

I like the movies. Sure the sequels aren't as good as the first, but the second has some damn good action sequences and the third... well apart from a slow beginning and a cheesy end, is absolutely fantastic.

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 12:20 PM

SIMONB


Quote:
Originally posted by milford:
I do my best not to hold that against her.



Hmm, same here.

Quote:
Originally posted by RiversGuy:
I think we all read too much into the sequels. The first was a breakaway, dare I say it, revolutionary piece of cinema and the sequels were billed as the Wachowski Brothers mantel for greatness. But they disappointed. Fair enough. But try watch them again and just try to enjoy them without comparing them to The Matrix and you will just see them for what they really are.

Fun.



Sorry Riversguy, I have to honestly say even ignoring the first one (which was good), the last two weren't fun for me at all. If you liked them fair enough, but for me, no thanks. In fact, after watching the sequels I promptly sold my copy of the first film because I couldn't watch it any more. (sniff) and I used to like it. (wipes eye)

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 12:35 PM

REGINAROADIE


Just for the record, I was never really into the MATRIX movies to begin with. People say that FIREFLY/SERENITY is like the antithesis is STAR TREK and STAR WARS, but WARS and TREK have their amounts of human compassion and humor and general entertainment. THE MATRIX movies, on the other hand, were all glossy techno geek stuff about emotionless humans fighting machines and computer programs who had more personality than the humans. I think FIREFLY/SERENITY were the anithesis of THE MATRIX movies.

But one moment in RELOADED always gives me a chuckle and I wonder if anyone else catched onto it. You know that old movie THE WARRIORS (which IMHO is overrated and has not aged well) when Cyprus the leader of all the gangs keeps saying to the crowd "Can you dig it?" Before the rave/orgy scene in RELOADED when Morpheus is addressing the crowd and says "ZION...CAN YOU HEAR ME?" Did anyone expect him to say, or just say to yourselves in a MST3K fashion "Can you dig it!!!"

I once had in mind a fanfic where the actors are talking with their characters on the day of SERENITY's premiere and thought it would be funny for Zoe to complain about having to put up with Morpheus' "prophecy" bullshit night and day.

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 3:04 PM

NUCLEARDAY


I was so blown away by the first movie, I think it was generally impossible for the sequels to be anything but underwhelming.

(Okay, so even the first one has aged on me a bit, but I first saw it before anyone knew what the Matrix was, so everything was a huge suprise about it. Remember those "What is the Matrix?" commercials? :)

Actually, I still haven't even seen the last movie...

On the other hand, I'm sure alot of people assumed that the sequels would be as well-recieved as the first one. Can hardly blame Mrs. Torres for signing on, spousal obligations or not :)

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 6:22 PM

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I do remember the "What is the Matrix?" comercials. In fact, I remember my math class at the time; we were learning what a matrix was and how to apply it mathmatically, etc etc, and my notes were just peppered with "What is the Matrix?" and "The Matrix has you" in just the weirdest places. I loved the movie. I really think it should have been left "as-is". But oh well.
It's been awhile since I saw the, for lack of a better word, follow-ups, and I only saw them each once anyway. I don't remember seeing Gina. Who did she play?

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 1:23 AM

DOWIE100


Funnily enough I saw The Matrix Reloaded two days after I saw the Matrix for the first time. My was I dissapointed with Reloaded...

Mind you I just compared Star Wars Ep 1-3 with Serenity, thats an even bigger gap in regards to film quality.

Ohh yeah the topic, yes I concur it was Gina who was in Reloaded.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 3:00 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by NEEDY:
[I like the movies. Sure the sequels aren't as good as the first, but the second has some damn good action sequences and the third... well apart from a slow beginning and a cheesy end, is absolutely fantastic.


I agree. I enjoyed the original and Reloaded. Revolutions was okay but not as good for me. I feel that expectations after the first movie were just too high. Everyone had different ideas about what should happen and there was no way the writers were going to satisfy the fans. The original is a complete movie from beginning to end (kind of like Star Wars was) and that makes it the best, in my opinion. But I also liked Reloaded because it has a pretty neat revelation at the end and there the highway chase scene is really great. There are some inexplicably strange scenes in the movies, though, for sure. The big party after it is revealed to the humans in Zion that the machines are coming to kill them all is a prime example. I would think everyone would be getting ready to defend themselves, not having a rave.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 3:08 AM

FIREFLYNUTTER


i only liked the first... the others were as tho they were just thrown together after a late nite on the town with a carribine and a pair of old socks. Even though they had planned for the movies to be a triliogy straight from the start, it was a bad move in my view, for it too work they needed less blah blah and more ouchie (ie more neo/smith scenes )

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 3:14 AM

PHOENIXROSE

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Quote:
Originally posted by fireflynutter:
i only liked the first... the others were as tho they were just thrown together after a late nite on the town with a carribine and a pair of old socks. Even though they had planned for the movies to be a triliogy straight from the start, it was a bad move in my view, for it too work they needed less blah blah and more ouchie (ie more neo/smith scenes )

You know, the Neo/Smith scenes were some of the most severely disapointing to me. Think about it. If they both had total control over the program, could both bend the Matrix to their will, why the hell were they just flying at each other over and over? That got so boring! They could have been hurling lighting or trying to make the ground swallow each other, or just picked up really big bits of rubble to throw. No, they flew at each other. Over. And over. And over. And over.
Or were you referring to the uber cool fight in Reloaded? That was pretty good. Actually interesting to watch, at least.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 3:20 AM

FOLLOWMAL


Quote:
Originally posted by reginaroadie:
But one moment in RELOADED always gives me a chuckle and I wonder if anyone else catched onto it. You know that old movie THE WARRIORS (which IMHO is overrated and has not aged well) when Cyprus the leader of all the gangs keeps saying to the crowd "Can you dig it?" Before the rave/orgy scene in RELOADED when Morpheus is addressing the crowd and says "ZION...CAN YOU HEAR ME?" Did anyone expect him to say, or just say to yourselves in a MST3K fashion "Can you dig it!!!"


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