Male and Female Imponderables by Tristan

So far as I am aware, this is not true. Size cannot be determined by anything other than actually looking at the item in question.
I have heard of this old wives' tale, but I can't seem to locate anything on it's origins.

Here's one for the females, then.
Upon meeting a male of "dating age", what is the first thing about them you focus on? (something physical, they way they talk, etc)

Holding until you get back, Captain.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 8:18 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...

Quote:
Originally posted by EmmaRigby:
....the size of a guy's feet and his penis really true? Ditto for the one about the size of his nose?

Absolutely 100% true... that's why clowns get all the chicks...

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 8:19 AM

Oh c'mon Tristan, you're a married man. Surely you understand all there is to know about women.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 8:21 AM

For me personally it is the attitude. Obviously one notices if a person is really attractive, but the attitude is most important.

I don't deal well with negative people. So thats the first thing I notice, are they a "happy" person or not.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 8:24 AM

EMMARIGBY

Okay, this may sound really pathetic but what really turns me on is if a guy is interested in me!
Honestly, a bit of blatent flirting can really up the attractiveness level a whole lot!

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 8:25 AM

She is right! That too.

Although I tend to flirt with everyone, so I never know when a guy is serious or just flirting back.

Unless of course I don't like you

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 8:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Tristan:
Upon meeting a male of "dating age", what is the first thing about them you focus on?

*huff* So we're doing serious answers? Okay, whatEVer.

Ummmm... First thing I used to notice, back when I noticed, because of course now I NEVER notice men other than the one I'm married to, was... Thighs. And it still would be, if I still noticed. Which I don't. (Which is why I also don't watch Viggo Mortensen's dismounts from his horse in Hidalgo over and over and over again. And again.)

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I'm gonna see Serenity then
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C'mon Universal, and greenlight the sequel!

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 8:27 AM

MYSTRE

Quote:
Originally posted by EmmaRigby:
Hhhm! Okay, Is the old wive's tale about the relationship between the size of a guy's feet and his penis really true? Ditto for the one about the size of his nose? 'Cos that would be really handy advertisement (not that these things matter of course )

Some of these tales are sort of true for a guy who is proportionally shaped. But not quite the way you have it. It is true that from the base of the hand to the end of the middle finger will be very close to the same size. Also the fingers will defiantly give a clue to girth albeit not directly proportional - Both of these work for a woman with regards to the size of the birth canal, but why would anyone care about this?

The foot is the same length as the distance between your inner elbow to the base of your hand, you can try this a home and see for your selves.

But like I hinted at, it does depend on the person being a genetically proportional body type. Different rules for mutants ;)

There are for sure more of them as the human body has many synchronicities.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 8:35 AM

EMMARIGBY

Quote:
Originally posted by Grizwald:
Quote:
Originally posted by Tristan:
Upon meeting a male of "dating age", what is the first thing about them you focus on?

Ummmm... First thing I used to notice, back when I noticed, because of course now I NEVER notice men other than the one I'm married to, was... Thighs.

Yup, thighs are good!!
I've always had a weakness for a well defined chest (which makes me feel really shallow as I'm not 100% buff myself!). Strangely the male arse, that my friends all rave about, usually leaves me cold. As opposed to a well crafted female rear, which is truely a work of art!

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 8:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Tristan:
Had to start a thread after spending some time in the "A moment of cattiness et.al"

you are very brave sir, going into that den of feminestas...i steered well away from that one.....

and while i am not nearly as confused by the opposite sex as i was some (mumble, mumble) years ago... the odd question does arise.... i've always wondered why some women prefer a life more akin to a day time soap opera than a stable, loving homelife....

is it the bad boy thing...? cause when i'm bad, i'm very bad...and when i'm good....well...i haven't been kicked out of bed for eating crackers, if you get my drift.....

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 8:36 AM

Grizwald, I am a male that knows his limitations

. There are a number of things I "know" about my wife, and many things I understand about females in general (yeah, right, try and convince myself of THAT one!), but I am a willing student of female wiles, and a semi-expert at male wiles.

The flirting thing has always had me intrigued. I am (or was...well, maybe still am) a flirt, and I love the concept of openly flirting (my wife is the same way, neither one of us is jealous of the other at all...weird, long story only if you are interested), even if it never leads anywhere. I prefer "classy" flirting as opposed to "here's my room key" type of thing.
And I always notice eyes...not necessarily color, but eye contact.

Holding until you get back, Captain.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 8:47 AM

Dayve

I wish I could answer your question! I didn't want a bad boy, I wanted the stable home life and look what I got! But that is a long story. I think that some women equate nice and stable with boring which is not true.

Like I said, I like Happy (they don't have to run around smiling like an idiot - I guess I mean optimistic), intelligent, confident people who are kind and that have a fun and playful sense of humor.

(Being in a fantastic cult phenomenom wouldn't hurt either

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 8:49 AM

I was the only female in my family (other than the ones that married in) for a couple of generations. I spent all my time with males and they flirted with me. It is just the way I learned to relate to them.

It has its ups and downs, I am often dismissed as being not intelligent, but those ones soon learn

The pro is I generally can get things done faster. (course woman hate me)

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 8:50 AM

Dayve, yeah, it was kinda scary at first...I was afraid to say the wrong thing or have my thoughts misconstrued and end up with a virtual beating, but it turned out alright. One thing being a male; I try to think through what I am going to say before blurting it out when females are involved. I have Neanderthal-like qualities at times, as most males do, but I prefer to act like a more enlightened individual. I find I make more friends that way

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Holding until you get back, Captain.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 8:55 AM

FOLLOWMAL

Quote:
Originally posted by Grizwald:
Ummmm... First thing I used to notice, back when I noticed, because of course now I NEVER notice men other than the one I'm married to, was... Thighs. And it still would be, if I still noticed. Which I don't. (Which is why I also don't watch Viggo Mortensen's dismounts from his horse in Hidalgo over and over and over again. And again.)

Or why I don't watch Mal very closely when he walks ( stalks?) around in his tight pants and I love where his gun ties to his leg.

"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 8:58 AM

This day just keeps gettin better and better. I'm trying to concentrate on work here... And then FollowMal starts in about Nathan's thighs... ork.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 8:58 AM

no, i get that... about the boring part...'the candle that burns brightest, burns shortest...' deal, but after several years of marriage, (with the right person).. i can say that our time together is never dull, we still talk about things that are important to us...hell, we still talk..! which is more than i can say for some couples we know.... but i have seen more than a few women (girls actually) risk everything just to be with the biggest jerk in the world... jerk to me...joe mcCool to them i guess... and it always ends tragically....kids left without a dad... an uneducated and disinterested mom and all the soap operas in the world can't match that sadness....

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:08 AM

Okay, I have a question mainly for the women, but Tristan seems to know his stuff so I wouldn't be surprised if he has an answer. I have heard that women with small breasts have more sensitive nipples. How true is this? My wife is very well endowed and hers seem very sensitive. What do you all have to say?

Simon: What if he(Mal) tells you to kill me.
Zoe: (without hesitation) I kill you.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:14 AM

I...umm...thank you, Lysander? I am no Dr. Ruth, I mean...um, the male version of her, but if that comment was meant seriously, then thank you...if it was meant as tongue-in-cheek, then

The experiences I have had are all over the spectrum with this. I have come across very sensitive nipples in all sizes, and some that do not want their nipples touched AT ANY COST because they are uncomfortably sensitive (again, various breast sizes, as well). I have also had the few experiences where there is little or no sensation at all...that's an ego killer right there.
I would hazard to say males are the same way as far as nipples go...I would rather mine not be messed with because of the weird feeling (the thought of piercing makes me climb walls), but there may be some males out there that enjoy having them played with.

My two cents. No, let's hear from the experts!

Holding until you get back, Captain.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:23 AM

DEEPGIRL187

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
I was the only female in my family (other than the ones that married in) for a couple of generations. I spent all my time with males and they flirted with me. It is just the way I learned to relate to them.

It has its ups and downs, I am often dismissed as being not intelligent, but those ones soon learn

The pro is I generally can get things done faster. (course woman hate me)

Not intelligent? Who are the hundans that told you that? And speaking of intelligence, for me, that is one of the first things I notice about a person. Being able to have a stimulating conversation is an attractive trait. 'Course, there is something to be said about big and dumb. *drools over picture of Jayne*

At last.
We can retire and give up
this life of crime.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by lysander:
I have heard that women with small breasts have more sensitive nipples. How true is this?

I wonder how anyone would know the answer to this? I mean, sensation is so subjective. Any studies would have to be based on anecdotal evidence, wouldn't they? Hmmmm. (Pondering the imponderable here.)

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I'm gonna see Serenity then
go back the next morning and see it again.
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C'mon Universal, and greenlight the sequel!

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:25 AM

except for the uneducated and disinterested mom part you got my story! I thought I had found someone I could be with forever, I was wrong! I am looking for a little boring right now. Too much excitement in the last 18 years!

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:32 AM

I think it depends on the woman, not the size. But I can only tell you that I am sensitive, so who knows!

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:33 AM

Tristan,
No, it was not meant as a tongue in cheek thing. I've read what you have posted here and on the other thread and you seem to know what you're talking about. I wouldn,t say anything negative to anyone. I don't even know any of you. I'm just stating what I've gathered from your posts.
I am just like you in that I've heard several varying answers and I have also had varying experiences with sizes and sensitivities. I don't think there is a set answer, so I'd like to hear from some of the others.

I also do not like to have mine messed with. It is a weird feeling. Just me!

Simon: What if he(Mal) tells you to kill me.
Zoe: (without hesitation) I kill you.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:38 AM

Unintelligent - Well there is a particular man on this forumm.....

Its because I work in the IT field and I am "too perky" Oh well LOL

See now I don't think Jayne is unintelligent. I just think he likes to put up his wall. For in stance in Shindig when Badger is explaining why he doesn't like Mal and Jayne pipes in with "pretencious" also in the BDW when he confronts Mal. Jayne isn't unitelligent. He is deep, there is mystery - much like the story of Mal and the cotton dresses!

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:43 AM

Lysander, thank you for that response. I have noticed on the board a lot of playful sarcasm, and it is always taken well by all parties involved. I was not angry, irked, insulted, etc., but I did think it could have been a "funny" remark, and I was prepared to take it well. I love sarcasm

Never fear to "insult" me or give me a hard time, even if you don't know me...I can give back what I get and enjoy the exchange! This is for the most part a very friendly forum, and there is a lot of good-natured baiting going on.

Alright, back to the nipple issue...seems Lysander and I both prefer ours to be left alone...any others?

Holding until you get back, Captain.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:43 AM

FMF
I guess I was thinking about all the girls who drop out of school to be with their studmuffin, who wind up pregnant and, for whatever reason, can't or won't go back to school. My wife is a teacher, so i've seen (or heard) of this firsthand... and, (even though many of my posts might indicate otherwise), i strongly believe that education is the key to a better future.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:46 AM

I agree

Don't forget the women that trade in perfectly good husbands for jerks they meet in bars and on the internet.

That never fails to amaze me.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:48 AM

Speaking as a woman who has been alone now for about a year. Um I ferget

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:50 AM

WILDIGSTART

First thing I notice: the grin/smile/eyes lighting up when talking about something they love. Shows a passion that one might be able to tap into at a later time/location

Soap Opera bad boys: I don't want a bad boy in life...i want a bad boy in the bedroom. That can sometimes be hard to find among the respectful, intelligent, funny, creative, dorks in the world...but not impossible.

The nipple thing is subjective and it sounds like a study is in the works...i like it...and i like to find out if he likes it...

Why do men cry when they watch Somewhere in Time?

You see? She's not a junkie or mentally ill, she's gifted!--Momma Roxy

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:54 AM

DEEPGIRL187

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
See now I don't think Jayne is unintelligent. I just think he likes to put up his wall. For in stance in Shindig when Badger is explaining why he doesn't like Mal and Jayne pipes in with "pretentious" also in the BDW when he confronts Mal. Jayne isn't unitelligent. He is deep, there is mystery - much like the story of Mal and the cotton dresses!

Agreed. Jayne does have some smarts to him. Maybe uneducated is the better term.

At last.
We can retire and give up
this life of crime.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:55 AM

Here's another one:
For those of you either married or in a serious relationship; what is the most important aspect of a happy marriage/relationship?

I am going with trust.

Holding until you get back, Captain.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:57 AM

Yeah, if he'd wanted learnin' he'd of gone to school!

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:57 AM

however, not to be taken too seriously...i must tell you that i've been escorted to the gates of some of the finest schools in the southwest... and did indeed receive my coveted diploma from SDU... click here to view the recently completed web site of my prestigous alma mater... http://www.slimsdiscountuniversity.com/

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 10:02 AM

CHRISMOORHEAD

Question for both: What the hell is up with "flirting"? Is it not enough that two people are attracted to one another? Why do you play silly monkey games with each other?

Questions for women:
Look at your wardrobe. How many articles of clothing do you have that hug your ass and thighs? How many shorts come above mid thigh? How many tops "accentuate" the area that they cover? WHY? That stuff CANNOT be comfortable.

On a related subject, makeup: You look better without it, and even if you don't, oh well. Why do you spend any amount of time trying to put on a fake face? Oh, I've heard it before, "I do it to make myself feel pretty, not for others to". Bull-Crap. I spend just enough time on grooming myself to not offend others with BO. Anything beyond that is superfluous.

A finally... stop wearing perfume to the gym. It's hard to breath deep on a treadmill when you're sucking up chemicals from the thing in the annoyingly bright hot pink tank top next to you.

Questions for men: What the hell is your problem? Since when has manliness been defined as indulging in your own desires? How about some FREGGIN restraint? The universal measure of masculinity is and has always been SUFFERING. Suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character. You deny yourself temptations and you grow as a person, and to become a man you undergo a ritual, a trial of endurance and pain to make the transition. What are our rituals today? College hazing? Drinking as much as possible and fucking anything that moves? Damn you and your filthy heathen ways! And now we live in a country of 30 year old BOYS!

Gorram it, man.

Have you ever:
Used your teeth as wire strippers?
Given yourself stitches?
Made improvised munitions with no base supplies?
Pissed in a canteen?
Gone a month without bathing?

If so, you MIGHT just be a !HOOAH MOTHERF*CKER!

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 10:04 AM

Jayne, to me, seems to personify the football hero. He is strong, forceful, and base. He knows what he wants and the easiest way to get it. He also looks out for himself foremost, and others only if their well-being is good for him. All of this is not meant to be insulting to the character. There is a bit of him in every male, and it oftentimes comes out. He is also intelligent, and there were a few glimmers of that mentioned in above posts, and loyal (even if his idea is skewed {Ariel, for example}). I like his character; he appeals to my "bonk them on the head with a club" parts.

Holding until you get back, Captain.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 10:08 AM

Well I can think of many a woman who perked up at the reference to bonk!

and yes I agree!

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 10:13 AM

Umm, FMF, that was "bonk on the head"...not just "bonk"...although...

thoughts abound.

Holding until you get back, Captain.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 10:16 AM

I would have to agree with Chris when he says that the ladies don't need make-up. My wife stopped wearing it shortly after we met and I think she is more beautiful without it. I'm not sure what the comment about the 30 year old boys is. I don't think that there is anything wrong with acting young as long as you know when to do it.

Tristan, great question. I have been with my wife for 12 years and married for 8. We have gone through some rough times with illness but never had a problem where we have really fought. I do beleive that trust is huge in a marriage but I think the thing that works for my marriage is that my wife is my best friend. We talk about anything and everything and there's nothing kept secret.

Simon: What if he(Mal) tells you to kill me.
Zoe: (without hesitation) I kill you.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 10:22 AM

I also don't think that there is a problem with flirting. I have an excellent relationship with my wife, but we both have a tendency to flirt. It doesn't go beyond that. Again, much like Tristan said, it is a long story. It makes people feel good and I like to make people feel good.

Simon: What if he(Mal) tells you to kill me.
Zoe: (without hesitation) I kill you.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 10:29 AM

What moron said everbody hates Chris? Was it Fox? Whatever. Alright, question for all the teenage girls out there:

In general, would you feel unattracted to a guy if was a crapload smarter than you? I've learned from experience that it does, and have suffered greatly from my damn 156 i.q, as lots of girls immediately classify me as a nerd or a geek.

(Just realized the irony of that statement.)

I think a little chaos is in order.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 10:37 AM

WILDIGSTART

hate make up...rarely wear it. maybe twice a month.

You see? She's not a junkie or mentally ill, she's gifted!--Momma Roxy

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 10:42 AM

WILDIGSTART

Not a teen girl...but as a teen, i was always fond of the nerds, geeks, and dorks...but i was one.

I still prefer the glasses and shelf full of books...a brain is always sexier than a body.

You see? She's not a junkie or mentally ill, she's gifted!--Momma Roxy

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 10:44 AM

Not to travel into the realm of fantasy (wait, isn't this board dedicated to....no, it IS reality), but I am a follower of the idea of chivalric love. "You have a significant other who you love and are devoted to, and you flirt?" Well, yes, let me explain.
Flirting is an art form, and at it's higher levels, can be as exciting as love. The chivalric ideal was to love someone in every way but physically.
Lysander, as a fellow medievalist, you may be able to help me here.
It's sort of like having the beginning part of a relationship, the intense, adrenaline-inducing part, last for a long time. My wife and I still have this; we still flirt, we are best friends, and we also fight together (literally, like with swords). Both of us are flirts, although I have slacked off lately.
It's not that easy to explain in words, but it is almost a game; an intellectual pas de deux that enriches both lives without creating the akwardness of an affair of the flesh...

Any of this making sense, or have I managed to tree myself?

Lysander....help?

Holding until you get back, Captain.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 10:53 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER

For anyone in the 'verse that could give me a bit of advice. My quandry has recently come to a very surpising head. A "friend" has recently distanced herself from her other, albeit lesser half. My best friend, (who happens to be female), warned me about becoming "that guy". Everyone knows "that guy". The guy after someone serious who somehow snaked his way in despite being a total gorram tool. My mistake may or may not be the fact that I've not allowed myself to give in to the only great woman that has excited me mentally, physically, emotionally, and spiritually in TEN years, (and I'm 28). I've already made the decision to peraue her, but I'm in serious help on how.
PS. All the guys I asked agreed with the wrist to middle fingertip thing.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 11:02 AM