Words of the 'Verse by Grimlock

For refrigerator I've been using "cooler."

For flashlight, how about hand-light? (It's a sorta-translation from Spanish "luz del mano")
Though the British "torch" works nicely, too.

I'm thinking magazines might go through a transformation between now and then -- possibly first from hard-copy to electronic form and then, in low-tech applications, back to hard-copy. The ultimate terminology might make use of something from the intermediate electronic stage, unless the "magazine" designation never goes away.

If the magazine is like People or one of those, you might call it a "tab." If Hustler-esque, a "peep?"

Calls for thinking in context. How are you using it?

bun
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Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:14 AM

HAWKMOTH

How about "magazine" for magazine? That's what they used in the series, as heard in "The Train Job:"

WASH
(sarcastic and firm)
Let 'em read a magazine. We don't make the sale
until Mal and Zoe are back on the boat.

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Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:15 AM

GRIMLOCK

The context in a line by Kalyee commenting about an article she read in an OC's law enforcement/security periodical.

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Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:59 PM

If you're following canon, you should follow Joss-speak, so I'm with HawkMoth. If it's "magazine" in the show, I'd use it in fic.
(Can't believe I watched that ep since the question was asked, and missed the word! Sheesh! -- Though I was looking for something else, I should have picked up on it.)

If you're off-canon, that opens up other possibilities.

bun
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Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:15 PM

SHINYDS

Well, I think it depends on who's using it. What I'm about to suggest gets us into dangerous territory, but creative territory, nonetheless. If these people live on different planets and moons, even though they all speak that kind of slang English, dialects might form. In the show (I'll have to watch it again) there does seem to be some (VERY SLIGHT) dialects on differ rim worlds (and of course a huge difference betweeen core and rim worlds). Just a thought.
*also can't belive that I missed the magazine line, but has no excuse for it*

"If I hear the words 'that's final' coming out of your mouth again, they truely will be."

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Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:06 PM

Exactly, ShinyDS.

The more isolated a settlement, and the longer the isolation, the more likely you'll find an odd combination of "drift" and "archaisms," no matter what the inhabitants' exposure to the Broadwave.

This has played out right here in Earth-That-Is in more than one country.

bun
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Friday, May 26, 2006 8:12 AM

Yeah, I agree with ShinyDS's idea about the dialects, it makes sense. I'd use torch for the flashlight too, or maybe just a "hand light."

I, too, love the linguistic creativity of Joss with Firefly. It's part of what makes it so believable. And it makes fanfic writing that much more fun! *runs off to get back to work on her own 'verse story*

Mine is an evil sugar high laugh! Bwahahahaha!

Morwen

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Friday, May 26, 2006 8:23 AM

um torch is the British word for flashlight

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Friday, May 26, 2006 9:29 AM

And I carried such a flashlight.

Hmmm... maybe not.

G

You may have invented it sir, but we invented the language, and the lift is still behind you.

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Friday, May 26, 2006 9:32 AM

Gixxer- I must know where that quote is from. It's fabulous!

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Friday, May 26, 2006 9:43 AM

Just an old joke.

American tourist arrives at a British Hotel reception desk, checks in, and the receptionist advises him that his room is on the second floor and directs him to the lift.

The American gets a bit arsey and stands on his dignity, demanding that it be called an elevator, since an American invented it.

Cue devastating put-down in cut-glass English accent.

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Friday, May 26, 2006 9:46 AM

That is marvelous:)

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Friday, May 26, 2006 9:47 AM

You're welcome.

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Friday, May 26, 2006 11:50 AM

That really is great, Gixxer! I prefer British English and spelling to the American version myself but my (American) teachers don't exactly sympathise...

I would also like to note that not all Americans are that rude when abroad.

Mine is an evil sugar high laugh! Bwahahahaha!

Morwen

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Friday, May 26, 2006 2:34 PM

That's OK. Just keep sneaking the letter "u" in here and there. I'm sure it'll find favour with someone somewhere. Or get you sent to Special Ed...

I'd also like to say that I've never met a rude American yet. Meet a few over here at work, spend holidays whenever possible in New England, and only use Ralph Morgan mouthpieces.

However, I have no time for that Bush fellow. He seems a thoroughly bad sort. He and the horrendous Blairs deserve each other.

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Friday, May 26, 2006 6:31 PM

msg wrote:
Friday, May 26, 2006 08:23
um torch is the British word for flashlight
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
We didn't know that already? We weren't knowing that?
(Ack. Me and my foolish assumptions.)

Lift and elevator trivia: In US, one may wear "elevator shoes" which are built up, or one may insert "lifts" into the heel portions of the shoes to similar effect. I suppose one could do both. And pitch forward onto one's nose...

What's UK terminology for these?

bun
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Saturday, May 27, 2006 1:39 PM

Status shoes (a term I must confess I've never ever heard used.)

Or you could go with the more prosaic "Height Increasing Shoes." While undeniably descriptive, I can't see a tagline like that causing many ad executives' hair to catch fire.

http://www.taylormadeshoes.co.uk/ReadyMade/StatusShoes/index.htm

(Be more handsome, eh? With my luck, I would be just as ugly as before, but just a bit taller...)

I've always had a problem understanding this sort of thing. First time wearers, how do you cope? Do you suddenly turn up at work / school looking like you're on cunningly concealed stilts, or what?

Then there's the removal problem, which puts them squarely in the same problem area as padded bras and toupees (you'll have to imagine the accent).

If you do have to consider removing them, they presumably have worked, and you've pulled. Unless you are a strictly "lights off" kinda guy / gal, the next few moments are likely to be interesting.

Define...well, you know the rest.

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Saturday, May 27, 2006 4:30 PM

ROFL, Gixxer, at the images both of suddenly tall and then the taking off.
One could possibly market a series of taller-makers which could be used in sequence until the proper stiltedness was achieved.
Then, for the taking off, careful planning might result in doing it at the last minute (may one politely say "at the edge of the bed?")should there be any ambient light which might reveal the subterfuge.
Dual showering would be out, of course, and other activities I'll not mention -- such as brushing teeth together.

I've a tale of false eyelashes...not mine...but that's for another day.

bun
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Saturday, May 27, 2006 4:37 PM

False eyelashes, bun? Oh, do tell.

And as for status shoes, women have had them for awhile. We call them heels. I don't really wear them much...they have the nasty tendency of making me fall flat on my face. Not fun. Any one else have that problem?

Mine is an evil sugar high laugh! Bwahahahaha!

Morwen

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Saturday, May 27, 2006 8:21 PM

Oh, I've paid my high-heel dues many times over.
No falling, however.
One learns to stalk along right smartly in the things.
Standing up to work in them all day was another matter.
Feh.

I'm trying to think of a way to condense the eyelash story properly...

bun
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Sunday, May 28, 2006 4:15 PM

Don't condense! I love long stories! Or is it so long that will your fingers fall off typing it?

Mine is an evil sugar high laugh! Bwahahahaha!

Morwen

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Sunday, May 28, 2006 7:38 PM

In its richest, juiciest details it would be far too long, not to mention getting too personal about someone who might not deserve it.

Briefishly, it's about a girl I worked with who used to arrive looking like Inara in full maquillage at a time when the rest of us were striving to look perfect with no make-up (a hell of an effort!).

One morning she straggled in late, looking as if she'd been dragged backward through a knot-hole. We all had a good whisper about it, then asked if she were all right.

She and her husband had had a lengthy argument the night before, she said. Tears had loosened the lashes, which she had then put on his night table. She felt so *naked* without her lashes, she said.

"We'll cover for you, just run and go get them," someone offered. "How long could it take?"

"Couple of hours," she said, naming the town where the soon-to-be-ex-DH was now living, "It wasn't *his* table by *our* bed; it was *his* bed, and I don't have a key anyway."

(I think it needs the details....oh, well)

bun
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Monday, May 29, 2006 6:34 PM

Oh, yes, platform shoes -- but they're tall all the way from toe to heel and are considered a ladies' style. I didn't like them very much.

As for trading comfortable temperatures for height, you have the right idea.

We are not penguins.

Well, most of us aren't...

bun
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Tuesday, May 30, 2006 4:57 AM