Serenity as a 'Buffy spin-off' by Leaina

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Serenity as a 'Buffy spin-off'

POSTED BY: LEAINA
UPDATED: Monday, June 5, 2006 02:52
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Friday, June 2, 2006 1:44 AM

I'm listening to BBC radio 4 (yes I proudly love it and yet am not over 60) and they just bloody described Serenity as 'that Buffy spin-off'. Grrr. Just thought I'd share my anger.

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Friday, June 2, 2006 1:49 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

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Fools!

Just wondering, what context was this in?

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Friday, June 2, 2006 2:02 AM

LEAINA

They were talking about it as one of the first examples of a 12A rated film- ie that under 12s can attend if accompanied by an adult. It's normally a compromise for films who desperately want to be a 12 to rake in the younger audiences.

We know how Joss is always pushing boundries, and there are some quite scary bits. I think he did well to get it passed as a 12A.

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Friday, June 2, 2006 2:08 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Oh. You must have a very different rating system over there. Interesting.

But they called it a spinoff?!?!

That implies that it's a Buffy movie! A movie that's a spinoff of a series is usually a movie of the series! And... and... and... having the same creator doesn't mean spinoff! Angel is a Buffy spinoff! I... I... I...
ARG!

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Friday, June 2, 2006 2:35 AM

LEAINA

exactly. Spin-off really misleads the public, and how many people now might not go and see the film thinking 'ooh vampire slaying's not my thing' and thus miss out on the joy that is Serenity? Really bad publicity. I mean I love Buffy, but I think it would probably put a lot of radio 4 people off even considering the film now.

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Friday, June 2, 2006 2:54 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Hmmm not surprising. Have you noticed how there are some serious errors creeping into the bbc of late. They have half researched news stories, shoddy headlines and their once definitive take on the English language has all but gone to pot!
The amount of newsreaders who say "was" instead of "were" is unbelievable!

I remember once sitting with my dad as he watched the weakest link and one question was:

"Who directed the Nightmare Before Christmas?"

and as nobody guessed the right answer, Anne Robinson goes on to say:

"It was Tim Burton"!?

I couldn't believe it! I just happened upon this show but, it had me wondering how many other questions they incorrectly quiz people on!

So hearing them call Serenity a spin-off isn't surprising as obviously nobody over there checks their facts anymore.

Shamefull!

The
Somnambulist

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Friday, June 2, 2006 4:04 AM

SIMONWHO

Heh. I got upset about that very same question on the Weakest Link.

It's amazing though how people trust everything they read in the newspaper except for the bits about stuff they know about when they seem to be continually making mistakes.

Funny that...

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Friday, June 2, 2006 7:53 AM

MIKEC

i'm sending a complaint to the bbs about this. perhaps we should get them to correct this.

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Friday, June 2, 2006 11:28 AM

IMNOTHERE

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
The amount of newsreaders who say "was" instead of "were" is unbelievable!
(Snip)
"Who directed the Nightmare Before Christmas?"
"It was Tim Burton"!?

Ooh! Ooh! I know this one!
"It were Tim Burton"!?

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Friday, June 2, 2006 1:21 PM

LEAINA

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Originally posted by mikeC:
i'm sending a complaint to the bbs about this. perhaps we should get them to correct this.

yeah I mean it would be good to get it mentioned. It was on Women's hour this morning but it was a guest who mentioned it, a guy from the the British Board of Film Classification, I think. I dunno if the beeb have responsibility for what outside guests say. What do ya think?

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Saturday, June 3, 2006 5:38 AM

DONCOAT

I don't know about the BBC, but here on this side of the pond National Public Radio will correct a factual error made by a guest (if it's considered sufficiently important or misleading).

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I don't disagree on any particular point.

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Saturday, June 3, 2006 7:04 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Originally posted by Magdalene:

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Not currently living in the UK, but I'm noticing that even the ABC (closest equivalent in Australia) have more and more mispronunciations and totally incorrect statements in their news and other programs - and there is so much general mispronunciation words - vulnerable for instance (a favourite word for journalists) is being pronounced "vun'rable"

And has anyone heard George W. Bush attmpt to pronounce "nuclear"????

OK, OK - that's my whinge for the evening - I will return you to normal service shortly!

Oh boy I think I've found a fellow whinger

Hi Magdalene - yup there is so much mispronunciation going on up here too! On one hand I try not to let it bother me, but when I hear people in the media in particular say things incorrectly, it just irritates me.

Here there is a tendency to try and make everything into a verb. So words have "ize" stuck on the end of them : energize, prioritize etc. I can understand it in America, that's just the way the language has developed, but here it's just wrong.

With the onset of the world cup, I fear we're in for some serious language abuse. With the ubiquitous 'footy' pundit, all a lather with football jargon.....Those guys can just about speak a language.
So we'll be peppered with juicy moresels of :

"He's a great getter forward."

"Thems the ways you do it."

"He shoulda went for the ball"

and so on....

So whinge away! I'm right there with you. :D Incidently whereabouts in Australia are you? I was in Melbounre in january with my girlfriend. Absolutley loved it and the Australians!

The
Somnambulist

www.cirqus.com

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 11:30 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Originally posted by Magdalene:

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Oh Somnambulist - you are a person after my own heart!! But in the platonic sense - please reassure your girlfriend that I mean no harm!!

Ha! Oh she's not the jealous type. We're good to talk.

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There is even an add on TV now which states that "your skin can become vu'nrable"

I shall have to listen out for how this word is being said over here. Haven't noticed anything too odd, but I'll see. Now you have mentioned it I'll probably hear it everywhere and it'll start bugging me too!!

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(or training as an actor in my case, she added with a hint of modesty)

Now hang on! Leave nothing hanging Magdalene, what acting have you done? C'mon spill the beans I want to know if I might have seen you. There is already Chrisiall the Stuntman extraordinaire! Whose work I have recently just witnessed. So if you are an actress....

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Unfortunately there is a trend over here (which I'm sure is not limited to us Aussies) to give anyone with a hint of good looks, a reasonable career in their sport and the ability to string 2 words together a job in commentary!! (having a good agent helps too!)

My goodness I long for those old days! Here the basic criteria is:

(1)Do you mind making an arse out of yourself on TV?
(2)Will you perform a suspiciously 'sexual' looking act in front of the cameras?
(3)Do you share your I.Q. points with the neighbours cocker spaniel?
(4)When you have a tapp dancing accident is it because you fall into the sink?!

....and so on. Here half the TV fraternity seem to be semi degenerate individuals with absolutely no shame. Whom, once the limelight wanes off, flock to semi-experimental house moving shows on the lesser satellite channels!

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Phew - you really do know how to get me going with an almighty whinge, don't you Somnambulist??

Likewise.

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Now for the pleasantries - guess what? I do live in Melbourne!!

What the deuce.. Fancy that!

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I love my city too and am glad you were here in January, though it was pretty hot here around then!

Nah - I love the heat. It was brilliant! T-shirts, shorts, and sunglasses... And the view from the Rialto...... :D

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March was increadible though - we still had gorgeous weather and half the known world came to stay for the Commonwealth Games (for any US browncoats reading this - it's when every country or state ever colonised by Britain (who didn't waste good tea, and then run them out of town!) get together and have the Olympic Games without the USA - it gives the rest of the world a chance to win something!!

Just missed this and the F1 race (of which I'm a huge fan) but I saw the preparations along the Yarra River :D Just loved that Yarra.

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Where abouts in England are you Somnambulist? Did you or your girlfriend have family here? Whereabouts in Melbourne were you staying? You'll be pleased to know that a Serenity screening on 23rd June was confirmed today!! I am so excited!!

I'm from the south east, in the county of Kent. I presently reside in a sleepy little town called Tenterden. Quintessentially English.
My girlfriend is Aussie, a true Melbournite(?) of Italian descent. We were there staying with her family (my chance to know them) and they were unbelievably hospitable, as were all the Australians. I met some incredible people! We stayed around the St.Albans area and also went down to the seaside town of St. Leonards - which I loved and could easily see myself living in, should chance/fortune/work allow. Absolutely beautiful place.

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Now go out there and complain - a lot - about those horrid BBC presenters who don't know their peas from their queues!!

Ha! Yeah I can often be heard whinging at the TV. I think it pisses my friends off sometimes - but Y'know has to be done right Magdelene?

The
Somnambulist

www.cirqus.com

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Sunday, June 4, 2006 9:44 PM

SINGATE

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Originally posted by Leaina:
I'm listening to BBC radio 4 (yes I proudly love it and yet am not over 60) and they just bloody described Serenity as 'that Buffy spin-off'. Grrr. Just thought I'd share my anger.

I guess to the untrained observer it is easy to understand why someone would make this mistake. I mean they were both written and directed by the same guy. Someone who actually bothered to watch both shows might say: "Hey, I recognize some of these characters". There are similarities.

Wash - Xander
Kaylee - Willow
Book - Giles
Jayne - Spike

Not to mention several of the actors from Firefly have appeared on either Buffy or Angel.

I would be remiss however in not pointing out to these people that Buffy was about teenagers living in mystical world filled with magic, demons, and vampires while Firefly/Serenity was about a group of more mature folk wielding firearms while living on a spaceship in the future.

Hmmm...now that I think about it these people are pretty damn stupid and deserve no sympathy or understanding. They shall be struck down without mercy.

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We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.

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Monday, June 5, 2006 2:52 AM

KEYOKE

It all stems from this horrible disorder called

"BBC Idiocy"

Affects everyone working in the BBC at one point.

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"We feel the pain of a lifetime lost in a thousand days,
Through the fire and the flames we carry on"

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