GENERAL DISCUSSIONS

Male and Female Imponderables--Post-Resurrection

POSTED BY: TRISTAN
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 02:56
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Sunday, June 11, 2006 8:32 PM

COPILOT


I guess I'm just fine but okay so I'm drowning in a sea of uncertainity! I love him/he is not the one for me! Somedays I want to hurt everyone.
Functioning on this level is difficult. I don't have to worry about anyone's feelings but my own and no one is worring about me. That sort of teamwork has died! I'm happy......or am I? I'm just fine I think?
Yes this is the manner in which my mind is working currently!

An I carried such a torch.......For the Dark Lord

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 8:42 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Oh honey tell me about it!
I've seriously had thoughts like "Just walk through that door and everything will be forgiven and we'll be fine..." and then follows "No we bloody well won't be fine you cockbite! I'll slap you till you spin if you dare show up here!" Then with the "Who am I kidding? Never gonna see him again anyway! And he was obviously all wrong for me. But I love him so. And I miss him.
And dammit why doesn't he miss me??"
Blah
See I can't start thinking about it or, like you and probably everyone else, I stop making any sense and just worry about what it was that made everything suck.
There should be some kind of "Dumped" support group where we can work all those tangled thoughts out!
"Therapy and recreation for the newly single - How to Stop Obsessing Over What Went Wrong"
Or something.
I guess we have a semblance of that here, though
Just know, I totally feel you. We're not alone, and that may just mean we're not extremely crazy.

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 9:01 PM

COPILOT


I'm glad you're online PhonixRose! I hurt but I'm happy!
I broke up with him. It's so hard to think of or explain mostly I just want to bash my head into walls and be done with it. I want him to be happy and then I'm angry he is okay? I suck I'm confused I'm pacing in crazy cirles.
This is hard! It finally feels real and it's really scary!


An I carried such a torch.......For the Dark Lord

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 9:09 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.



Well, I'm proud of you. I know you were getting unhappy there, so it's good I think. I can't tell you if or when the hurt will go away, though. But hey, we're girls, right? We supposedly have nine times the pain tolerance... Wait, that's for physical pain. Um...

Boys are stupid anyway!

Boys are stupid. Throw rocks at them!

I had that on a postcard once, after my first semi-major breakup. Always made me feel better. Also a really tight sexy shirt with a Pinochio picture on it that said "Boys Lie". I kinda regret getting rid of that, now.

You know what we need, of course? (other than finding smart men to replace the stupid boys, of course) We need ice cream! Or maybe s'mores flambe.

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 9:46 PM

COPILOT


Can I drowned my icecream in vodka?
I feel like hell! I feel wonderious!


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Sunday, June 11, 2006 9:48 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Erm, if you like.
*scoops ice cream into glass*
There; Vodka Float! Not sure how tasty it will be, but hey, why not?

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 9:51 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


You didn't see anything...


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Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:11 PM

COPILOT


Alcomehol should taste awfull I'm sure. thing are things are upside down and backward now sorry darlin dear!

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:22 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


There, there *pet pet* You have your nerve-numbing comfort and I'll have my chocolate. We both know it's only a temporary solution anyway.
*munches on s'mores*

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:27 PM

COPILOT


Sometimes I just need enough space from myself to rationally think of things is all darlin. Also I don't really even like chocolate! No idea why?

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:39 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Alright then.

You... don't like chocolate? But... it's chocolate. I mean, in a way you're lucky because almost nothing will make you fat faster than too much chocolate. But for me, next to sex, chocolate is the best thing on the planet. It and cherry vanilla ice cream. Something about the creaminess... I dunno, I'm a strong believer in the phrase "everything's better with cream." (take that however you like)
Gah! Creamy chocolate sounds good right now!


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Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:53 PM

MERCURY002


wow i go away for a week and the old thread fills up and now there is a new thread all filled up too! slow down really it took me hours to catch up.

Simon:"If the battle was so horrible, why did he name the ship after it?"
Zoe:"Once you've been in serenity you never leave"

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:56 PM

COPILOT


Sorry my darlin forsaken lovlies I'm quite smashed! I love you all very much!

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:58 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


See, that's why I try to visit every day.

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:00 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Goodnight Copilot!

Sweet dreams!



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Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:00 PM

MERCURY002


but i went away so i couldnt, ps i think its time to stop drinkng at 9:57 in the morning

Simon:"If the battle was so horrible, why did he name the ship after it?"
Zoe:"Once you've been in serenity you never leave"

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:07 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


9:57??? What time zone are you in? I think you must be across the pond from darling Copilot and me.

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:35 PM

COPILOT


yep it's only 2:30 am my time honey!

An I carried such a torch.......For the Dark Lord

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:48 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


An hour earlier than me. So you would be on... Pacific time?

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:52 PM

COPILOT


Califonia's joyious timezone darlin lady!

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Monday, June 12, 2006 12:11 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.




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Monday, June 12, 2006 12:54 AM

MERCURY002


oh well then its ok to drink, next ones on me (hands over a shot of vodka). It is melting hot over here like 30 C, i cant do anything not even sit in the sun its too hot, even thow there were thunder and lighting last night

Simon:"If the battle was so horrible, why did he name the ship after it?"
Zoe:"Once you've been in serenity you never leave"

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Monday, June 12, 2006 1:42 AM

SERYN


I used to have a postcard of a drowned looking kitten with the words 'hang on in there' underneath.

I'm afraid thats about the best advice ican offer, even if it is a little trite.

I also had a fridge magnet with the message 'Before you criticise someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticise them you are a mile away and have their shoes.'

(bu bu ba dum tssh)

then there was 'we must have courage, faith and chocolate fudge cake'

and finally 'if you want the best seat in the house you'll have to move the cat.'

eh, that one doesn't really help much.

Ok, to distract you.

As someone mentioned up there ^ Men in make up, yes or no?

I vote yes. I'm not talking bases and blusher and stuff. But on the right guy, eyeliner is just drool worthy, and you can't beat a clam rocker, glitter ahoy! I mean i'm talking here of glam rockers. Turning up for work or to mow the lawn in a rainbow shaded lightning stike on your forehead is not the way to go, and eyeliner is a night time look, but ieven like dark nail polish on guys.

Saying that, its really pissing me off the way the cosmetics industry, having succeeded in implanting paranoia and feelings of aesthetic inadequecy in the female half of the population is now trying to reduce the men to mirror avoiding wrinkle phobes with low self esteem and cosmetic induced credit card debt (whats next - Hey two year olds! your wrists a little chubby? One to many dimples? buy our nasty chemical potion with its pretty packaging and inflated price tag before you hit five and its too late for you!)(Loreal i'm looking at you you 3rd world abusing animal abusing paying customer abusing fat-cat benefiting amoral slimeball sons of hellbitches)

*cough* 'scuse me.

Any way. men, to summarise - make up -eyeliner, special occaision rock god excess yes. Girly base and concealer, bronzing and fake tan (other than on a Queen)No way in hell.

In a related question - clothing, do you like guys who dress up? Are you into saville row suits? crazy Wossy confections? trackies and trainers? Or do guys who pay too much attention to what they wear (beyond is it clean and is it whole) freak you out.

I personally love a guy who takes time to build up a distinctive style, and who is adventurous in his dress - i think its a wonderful indicator of taste and personality and shows of passion and creativity, even if its sometimes a little out there.

But syaing that I wouldn't totally discount a jeans and t shirt kinda guy.

Yey! Its Tristans missus! See you in September!


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FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
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Monday, June 12, 2006 1:59 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


I have to say, I love men in eyeliner. For some reason I think it looks better on men than on women; I have no idea why. And maybe a little accentuating blush in fleshy tones, too.
I also like a man who knows how to dress. Nothing too elaborate or anything, but looking good. Nice pants, clean shirt free of wrinkles, that kind of thing. Also, I'm a sucker for fishnet on either gender. Fishnet is the sexiest fabric ever invented. As long as it's not overdone, I would say the gothy look can be fabulously sexy. This of course includes eyeliner and black fingernails.
There's something! Nails! I take supreme care of mine; I keep them as long as I can with smooth edges. Smooth edges is very important. I would love to meet a man who took that kind of care with his nails because it can be so sensual. Usually when a guy tries to run his nails along my skin or otherwise scratch me, his nails catch and it ends up hurting. Any men who would make sure their nails were really smooth? Or do ya'll even think about that?

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Monday, June 12, 2006 2:20 AM

SERYN


oh, my nails are terrible, I can't make any demands on the nail front.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
FozzieWash, Hey, look! They're sending us free lumber!

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Monday, June 12, 2006 3:02 AM

TRISTAN




Morning, all. Why are Mondays so horrible? I just want to be home right now, curled back up in bed...

Seryn, thank you for all the catch-phrases! I had never heard a "Walk a mile" like that one before...I like it!

As to nails: I keep mine short and with no sharp edges, except my thumbnails. Those are usually long and rounded to minor points. It was a sewing thing I never grew out of.


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Monday, June 12, 2006 3:17 AM

SERYN


no problem.

My favorites are 'meddle not with Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup'

and 'I am Woman, I am Invincible, I am tired'


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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
FozzieWash, Hey, look! They're sending us free lumber!

http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

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Monday, June 12, 2006 4:40 AM

MAL4PREZ


I second the makeup question to the men. I never wear wakeup, although I know i look a whole lot better with some eyeliner. It's just... work.

Eyeliner on men? I may have already shared... indie rocker with black boots, cut off shorts, a sparkly shirt and runny black eyeliner. He was alos about 5'4", but I was soooo in love. *sigh* He had a girlfriend who could break me in half, so no luck.

copilot: I let one go two years ago, and it was really difficult! I thought about him a lot! But I knew I could better, and staying with killed my chance of ever having something better. Hang in there, it will get better!!

tristan and jsusagi: you both are too fun! I agree about the long hair, jsusagi, as long as it not all nappy. Get a trim every once in a while guys, so it stays nice and soft!

Men crying - if a man's really got something to cry about, I find it touching if he'll cry around me, like he trusts me enough.

I don't cry much, but I had an interesting experience a few months ago. An idiot in a minivan turned in front of my little Jeep Wrangler (on a highway, going fast!) and I was absolutely sure there was badness coming. Squealy brakes, skidding sideways... we missed by inches. I got home (this was less than a mile from my house) and laid on the floor in hysterics for like 10 minutes. It was very bizarre. Excellent venting though, I felt pretty good after.

Anyway, that was my tangent for the day.


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Monday, June 12, 2006 4:49 AM

RUGBUG


Hang in there CoPilot. I'm sure you'll be fine as you've made a decision that many people never make. You're not settling for being in love only.

Topics at hand:
I am fond of men who know how to dress for the ocassion. I don't like having to tell someone that jeans and sneakers aren't appropriate attire for some events. But, I DO love a man in NICE, well fitting, stylish jeans and a nice fitted white or black t-shirt. Das is good.

Dressing up should mean more than khakis and a shirt with a collar. I've met far too many men with that definition. Spend some money on a couple pairs of flat front, well fitted slacks and you're good. There's nothing like well fitting slacks. There's a time when a man's arse is pretty pleasing. And remember, if you can get away with only one suit in your life, make sure it fits well. Fit can make a less expensive suit seem more so.

Manicured hands? I can't really expect anything as my hands have a tendency to show some wear and tear. I may sit in an office all day, but my hands don't show it. I'm actually a little embarassed by them, especially when I go dancing (swing dancing that is). But, working with horses and the manual labor that goes with it means less ladylike hands. It's a trade off I'm willing to make.

And besides, I'm not fond of manicured hands on men. Clean, trimmed and free from huge callouses is good enough. Soft, with perfect nails, etc is too much. (Speaking of which, Pres. Bush has incredibly soft hands....hrmmmm. )

Crying: Eyes welled up at appropriate moments: very attractive. Sobbing uncontrollably: freaks me out. I often wonder if I'm just a cold hearted bitch because I don't cry often...maybe twice a year and when I do it's always in private. I have one friend that always seems to be on the verge of tears. It can be so exhausting b/c I feel like I have to talk her down from the ledge.

Eyeliner and long hair on men? Like it on the right ones. I do distinguish "surfer" long hair from "heavy metal" long hair, though. I don't like rocker hair, but surfer hair is good.

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Monday, June 12, 2006 4:57 AM

SHEPHERD2BE


Good morning, sorry I'm late. Looks like I missed a few days and a few dozen posts.

Tristan, sorry about your Monday. My boss is in Boston and I'm planning on spending the afternoon in a microbrewery watching the U.S. vs. Czech Republic. It's a nice way to ease into the workweek.

Won't try to catch up on all the questions but I do try to keep my nails short and rounded.

Questions:
How many guys out there have had a professional manicure and/or pedicure? One time thing or do you have a set appointment?

How many ladies have taken their significant others in for this service?
How would you react to a guy telling you he gets his nails done on a regular basis?

I had my first manicure a month ago and it was a unique experience. For reasons I won't go into, I was at a salon with my buddies and their wives when the peer pressure took hold. I could not be talked into a pedicure. Later I regretted my stubborness. After seeing a pal of mine sporting the smile of the enlightened buddha while this young girl carved away on his feet I was envious as hell. Still don't see myself plopping down the cash for it on a regular basis but I could be persuaded to do it every now and again.


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Monday, June 12, 2006 5:03 AM

TRISTAN


Shepard2be, thanks for the uplift...and I envy you!

Never had a professional manicure or pedicure. The pedicure alone would require an angle-grinder and much persistence. I have rough feet, and am happy with them the way they are. As for my hands, I work with them everyday, and there are some callouses that I need...I don't really have rough hands, just well-protected.




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Monday, June 12, 2006 5:30 AM

SHEPHERD2BE


No worries Tristan, Friday will be here before you know it. I have to take advantage of these Magic Mondays whenever I can. They don't come around too often. I'll lift a pint for you.

At the time I was in agreement with your opinion on the pedicure. Noting that the salon had few power tools at hand and not a 220v outlet in sight I held back.
Although my buddy had something akin to hobbit feet and they still managed to find a ginzu blade that took care of everything. They can handle anything short of hooves evidently. I will have to try it out next time.

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Monday, June 12, 2006 5:51 AM

TRISTAN


Wow...maybe I will have to try out a pedicure, then. Sounds interestin'.

JSUSAGI (my wife) asked a question that I sorta overlooked..."What do guys see in females". I am sure this has been answered before, but I'll go ahead and start...I don't think she has the two days it would require to dig through all the other threads.
The first thing I try to look at are the eyes. They tell alot about the person inside. After that, personality...and it is important that one is present...does not have to match mine. Sense of humour, positive outlook on life, open mind, and joy of life are all things I look for.
As far as the physical, I think the general consensus so far is that most of the males here do not like stick figures...or society's version of a beautiful woman. We can all appreciate them, but a real, genuine, human woman is preferred. To answer the wife directly, you do not have too much around the middle, your butt is absolutely wonderful, I love your boobs just the way they are, and your face is beautiful, unmarred by the slightest blemish. You are what I have been looking for as a partner, because you have all of the above-mentioned qualities and more. (I know, fellow posters, enter sappy music here )
Alright, that was my two cents .




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Monday, June 12, 2006 5:58 AM

SERYN


I tend to abandon things like 'surfer' and 'rocker' and just stick to defining by 'clean' or 'skanky'

Skanky hair, no. I can't even touch anyone with unwashed hair. (working in a museum that seems to attract hoards of unwashed miscreants has made me a little oversensitive to dirty things) (I feel justified though, since I started leaving handwipes every where and got some anti-bac soap in the washrooms the colds that were plaguing me have eased of)

Sorry, no I hate long hair when they just don't look after it, when it was badly cut 7 years ago and hardly washed and rarely even brushed, its horrible.

Generally im not a fan of long hair though. Sometimes I don't mind it, I know a few guys with great hair and they suit it long, but basically, the only reason i like long hair is because I think guys look so much improved when they cut it shorter.

Not short short. I hate buzz cuts, but any where between say, Alan Tudyk and Sawyer from Lost gets my vote. (basically, enough to run your fingers through, but still gromed or styled)

Which brings me onto nails I suppose.

I don't know, I've never had a manicure pedicure, facial blah blah blah, (I 've never been baught flowers or sent and valentines card either (boo hoo, woe is me.)with having a nail biting problem, (I stopped several times before and started chewing the skin on my lips and the inside of my cheek, the nails are the least unsightly (and bloody!) of the three) and a budget that is often operating in the negatives, its just not something I know about.

But just on the idea of it, i'm not adverse. If a guy wants to do it, then yeah, fine, nicer hands and feet.

The only thing I don't like about things like this is when they have more bathroom products and take longer to do their hair or whatever, than me my sister and my mother combined. I also am not interested in talking about things like that (oh, you should go see so and so at such and such, she did marvellous things with my hang nails and did you know blah blah blah) that sort of thing is about as much fun as talking about calories.

So, yes, go if you want, but don't let it turn you into an idiot.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
FozzieWash, Hey, look! They're sending us free lumber!

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Monday, June 12, 2006 6:01 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Look back to the BDM: Serenity sails through the clouds spinning out of control. breaking apart. Suddenly the free lumber rains down and Serenity is one pilot short. That's what happened to the weekend. Question: If the woman you are activly persuing walks in to the bar where you are shooting pool and does not acknowledge your presence, full well knowing that you are there, is that a bad sign? Even if she is with the rebound guy that she supposedly dumped, is it strange that my feelings have not changed? And, last question. Should I have left stormed out of the bar like an angry child or was it okay to stay and maintain? They left shortly after arriving so it wasn't too difficult to stay. Thanhs BROWNCOATS. Your support helped me get this far. I ain't crawling yet, but I do need a hand.

"You ready to meet the real me?"

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Monday, June 12, 2006 6:05 AM

LYSANDER


I have never had a manicure or a pedicure. I don't like the whole idea of paying somebody to do what I can do myself for free. Plus, I don't really like the feel of nail files. It gives me the whole fingernails on he chalkboard feeling. Sounds pretty weird huh? I do keep my nails trimmed for the most part. My hands are fairly soft, but they do have some protection like Tristan talked about.

Simon: What if he(Mal) tells you to kill me?
Zoe: (without hesitation) I kill you.

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Monday, June 12, 2006 6:17 AM

MSG


Phoenix- I personally do wear make-up and try to keep it natural, but for me it's entertainmnet and just about the only form of art I can participate it. I cannot draw, paint, etc and it's fun to paint my face..mind I am a pro ( I put myself through college as a professional make-up artist for movies and tv) but my specialty is horror make-up. Even so I still like to use make-up but I think any make-up that screams I am wearing make-up is a bad bad thing.

Seryn- Try fake nails ( not the icky you can tell they are fake acrylic, but the fiberglass look so real no one knows) I am a nail biter and fake nails have totally cured that. Also you ought to try demeter.com if you aren't a scent person. I hate most floral and musk perfumes but demeter has one not perfumes like cucumber, honey, sugar cane, and many more that are nice to wear because you enjoy the smell not as an attractant:)

NV- Well my vote is we women here grab the witch, give her a buzz cut and dump her in the middle of a sporting arena for being mean to you...or we could die her hair a horrible shade and I can use my wiles to make her look like the witch she is..She's obviously not good enough for you
You're only young once, but you can be immature any time!

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Monday, June 12, 2006 6:19 AM

MAL4PREZ


NV - this is the goddess??

B**ch!! I say pull a Buffy and do a double flip over the pool table and stake her!!

OK, anyway, yikes and ouch! If I was more techno savvy I would have a cool emoticon thingy holding a hand out for you...

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Monday, June 12, 2006 6:45 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Question: If the woman you are activly persuing walks in to the bar where you are shooting pool and does not acknowledge your presence, full well knowing that you are there, is that a bad sign? Even if she is with the rebound guy that she supposedly dumped, is it strange that my feelings have not changed? And, last question. Should I have left stormed out of the bar like an angry child or was it okay to stay and maintain? They left shortly after arriving




Well, it's not a good thing. I think you handled it correctly, though...as long as you didn't pay too much attention to her (watching her, etc). You don't want to be the lovesick puppy.

IMO, storming out would've made you seem like a petulant child.

Question for you: How upfront are you about your pursuit? As old and cliched as it is: Women (and men) like a challenge (don't they? Maybe that's another question for the group). If she knows she's already got you, there's no reason to try and catch you. Maybe take a step back for a bit. Make sure you are still living your life, not just waiting for her to come to her senses.

MSG: I'm envious. I don't wear much make-up, but only because I am sooo uncomfortable with it. And, I don't like having to worry about getting stuff on my shirt collars. Blech! I currently only wear eyeliner and mascara but would love to feel more comfortable getting dolled up. Doing make-up well takes mad skillz...and I just don't have that going for me.

So where are y'all posting pictures of yourselves? Being new to the board, I'm dying to know what y'all look like. And who doesn't love a good wedding picture.


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Monday, June 12, 2006 6:55 AM

SAFEAT2ND


Ghostrider, I agree with Rugbug. You did the right thing.

I wouldn't let it beat you down just yet. It's a small bump, see what the rest of the road brings before taking the off-ramp.



Safeat2nd, Chief Handyman of Destiny

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Monday, June 12, 2006 7:01 AM

TRISTAN


NVGhostrider,
Alright, never thought I'd say this about a female, but...the engine's warmed up, we need to kick her into it?
You handled the situation very well. If this is the way she is going to be, she does not deserve you at all.


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Monday, June 12, 2006 7:27 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Well, My heart hasn't changed yet. Some nagging feeling remains. Something telling me not to be so quick to judge. Besides, the weekend went quite weel. I had three offers from mathmakers in town and one offer for very vigorous sex. I feel good. Kinda free. Besides, she'd been telling folks that she and I are really good friends and if that is all this whole thing is, I at least want to re-establish that. NOTE: "That guy". The rebound that she was with. He left a slime trail that smelled to high heaven. I think he knew I was there and I think he intentionally made her go there. Though it may not be fact, that is what it looked like. She was afraid of something. I'm hoping it wasn't me. That bad guy part of me is in there, but He may be under control. I won't fight anyone to show how tough I am. In fact, I might just take a beating if it comes down to it. My problem is allowing others to be hurt. Thats when the bad guy won't hold back. Slimy or not, she seen that I am not willing to compromise that. Good point too. I presented myself as a friend with interest. I can wait. She does have me, but now she will have to work for it.

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Monday, June 12, 2006 7:28 AM

TRISTAN


Amen!


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Monday, June 12, 2006 7:35 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Myspace. same alias

Jayne: I was gonna get me an ear too.

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Monday, June 12, 2006 7:50 AM

TRISTAN


RugBug, myspace.com/tristan71
And yourself?




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Monday, June 12, 2006 8:08 AM

RUGBUG


Uh-oh...I might get myself into some trouble on myspace. Eek! I've been avoiding that time sucker successfully so far.

Tristan: Your wedding picture is awesome!

Here's me in various incarnations:
(my html is rusty) try this:
http://community.webshots.com/album/94206135CCLFxo

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Monday, June 12, 2006 8:15 AM

TRISTAN


Thank you, RugBug!
Yeah, I got sucked into MySpace, too, when I found out there were Browncoats there...give it a shot, it's fun! It's not that bad of a time-sucker...really...

You have a beautiful smile! Thank you for sharing!




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Monday, June 12, 2006 8:44 AM

COPILOT


My darling NVGhostrider (insert your real name which I almost typed) YOU are an amazing soul! I guess I should say something horrible about that person now but I've no ground to stand on. I reamed the love of someone who could actually end up being my soul mate yesterday. Sometimes people are confused and out of control. Just be happy you don't have to deal with her insainity at the moment. She is still the person you know and love but life is nuts sometimes!
It is possible that she's not with you because she doesn't feel good enough for you yet. That's how I feel right now with this particular person. It might take a very long time but I think you might be the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

An I carried such a torch.......For the Dark Lord

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Monday, June 12, 2006 8:55 AM

TRISTAN


Hey, nobody in this thread should ever feel they are not good enough for someone else! I will not listen to that! All of you, all of us, are good people, despite what you may think of yourselves. I love and respect all of you, and think more highly of y'all than I do of people I know IRL. I am honored to know you, and everyone else should be, too. If they aren't, then they are not good enough for you.

I apologize for my outburst. This is just the way I feel about all of you, and I hate to see you hurt/confused. NVGhostrider and Copilot...it may not be a great big help, but I am proud to "know" both of you, and in the short time I have been talking to you, I have grown to care deeply for you. You are good people!




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Monday, June 12, 2006 9:05 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Funny you should say that. Yeah, thats what I think. I've had women tell me in the past that I was too good for them at the time. Later a few of them told me that had I been accessable they might have tried me out. I ain't asking for commiment right now, just the chance to ease my way into her life. I don't want it all right now, just the chance for it later. If she ain't ready, I can wait. And I'm not angry, just hurt and disappointed. Thanks to the lovely COPILOT and her point of view I am now even more secure with my desicions. Rather than brooding in my own self loathing, I did alot of living this weekend. I feel real good. May even try for a date with someone other that Ms. Incredible. My have to run into her at some point. Although, I will say HI and be the same shiny person that she helps me be. Wadda ya think BROWNCOATS? Good idea? I think so too. JUst what to wear?

P.S. And they wonder why I have a mancrush on TRISTAN. Smart, pretty, sensative, makes armor, and loves rum.

Jayne: I was gonna get me an ear too.

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