Male and Female Imponderables--the Eighth (?) by Tristan

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:56 AM

*bump*
This one should be on top.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:03 AM

hmm masturbation alone or with SO...yes please:) I think it depends on the situation and the relationship but I think it's a really good way to show a new partner how to get you across the finish line

In a complete non sequiter is it ok to put nail polish remover on a keyboard? I was painting my toenails as I responded and I spilled a little polish on the keyboard and as it's sparkly gold/red my husband is bound to notice

You're only young once, but you can be immature any time!

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:13 AM

I agree! Mutual voyeurism is fun! And yes, if the SO is a good student, a thing or two can be learned regarding technique...it has helped me a time or two in the past.

Nail polish...on the keyboard? As long as it did not get between the keys, it should be alright...I think...
The color sounds pretty, though! Maybe he won't mind.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:18 AM

I like on top. Though, the excitement of control gets me going a little quicker. As for the whole solo thing... sure. Whatever works. I think they should teach a larger section of it to kids in sex ed. I really wish that most of the poulation of younger people in my towm would join the Band of the Hand. (Proud member since 1989). I,ve already seen multiple children in my facility that are from parents much younger than me. Can't stand seeing people who can't take care of their kids at the local meat markets still looking to hook up and have more. GRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!
Speaking of mutiples, (change of subject for sanity's sake), I have a problem with being able to have numerous orgasms in a session. Yet another reason for no nookie for a while. Need a partner who can be true as not to foul up the works, and a partner I ain't afraid to impregnate. Visit my town some time and see if that is possible. Rural community with a Naval Air Station sixty miles from Reno and 50 miles from the nearest brothel. I should start a shuttle to both for all the damn squids and make some cashy money. That and the civic duty of slightly more virtueous women I can snag on might be enough. Now where to get the cash for a van?

Sorry about the long winded everything. Had a diet Pepsi and the chance to be present for a co=workers termination this morning. Really feel like lifting weights or getting some trim' if there were a little woman about.
GOODMORNING BROWNCOATS!!!!

Jayne: I was gonna get me an ear too.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:20 AM

LOL won't mind...ok I may die laughing now. ok I am trying the remover. here's hoping I don't ruin his keyboard:)

Another question for you guys- DO you like it when a woman dresses up. Also, do you prefer women who look/act more feminine or look feminine act masculine or look tomboy act tomboy?

NV- yeah I am right with you on that. I get so frustrated and angry with the parents I deal with who obviously desperately didn't want and have no plans to care for the children they have!

You're only young once, but you can be immature any time!

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:26 AM

I have a question for the men - how soon is too soon? Being back on the market and all - what is the ettiquette? And no I can not spell today - I am having a raging Albuterol headache!

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"We don't fear the reaper"

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:27 AM

NVGhostrider, afternoon!

msg, remember that the nail polish remover may slightly melt the plastic.

I love it when my wife dresses up! She is naturally gorgeous, but when she dolls-up...damn! It's nice in that it doesn't happen everyday...not sure I could stand her being more beautiful than she normally is.
As far as looking/acting, my wife is best described as a tomboy. Who else would get out in the front yard with three other guys swinging practice weapons around? And there have been times when she has wiped the field with all three of us! (msg, check my profile and go to my Blue Sun items...there is a picture of her in armor there...unless you have already seen it). She can also act very feminine when she wants to...usually when she dresses up...she carries herself differently, and I like that, too.

So, I prefer a tomboyish woman who ocassionally dresses to the nines.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:29 AM

FMF, right now sounds good

Um...ok...take your time; be sure you really want the other person. Unless you are just at the end of your rope, do not settle for just anyone. You deserve the very best. If in doubt, get references and check them out.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:32 AM

ok I diluted it and it didn't melt the plastic goody...now no one tell my husband:)

The main reason I asked is that I look fairly girly ( manicure, some make-up, skirts, strapy heels, and I'm tiny 5'2") and I act very much like a guy( not in a bad way but was once banned from playing bball with other teachers because I turned into a block hard enough to knock a 6' guy to the boards) and I have had more than a few guys be angry at my "mixed message"

FMF- I am pretty sure have a good time and wear protection are the only rules still out there...so dive right in. ( oh and you can't date anyone under 18 if you are over 21)

You're only young once, but you can be immature any time!

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:33 AM

COPILOT

Dressing up doesn't work for me. Lipstick makes me look like a cheap hooker no matter the shade and I just can't pull off any sort of fancy dress. I'm a dirt child that's just the way I roll I guess. Maybe when I'm a little older.

An I carried such a torch.......For the Dark Lord

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:34 AM

This may not be the best topic - not so fun and not rated R or anything, but it's been on my mind. And maybe it's not such a m/f imponderable, but it can be if I stretch it a little...

OK, so I had reason to be blue yesterday, and as the blue wasn't going away (this thread did help btw) I dropped lines to all my buddies (I moved recently and my best friends are far away)

I've heard back from nobody! I know my friends care about me, and I know at least one or two have to be online. So what gives?

This has happened before, that friends respond to fun things, but when I'm really down I get nothing. I'm thinking... I've always been a strong independent kind of woman, and maybe when I'm not I don't express it well. So my friends either don't know how to deal with it, or they don't understand what I need.

What I am saying? hmm. I've never been good at asking for emotional support when I need it. So, how does a strong woman deal with being blue without scaring people away?

My failed approach has been - I'm bummed. Can you help me out? Nada!

What do the rest of you do?

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:35 AM

Copilot- have you tried a simple gloss...or try Nars lip gloss in orgasm. It's a nice pale peachy pink barely there thing...that is if you want to wear make-up and all. If you don't, then do what looks good for you:)

Mal4 prez- maybe they are so used to you taking care of them that they don't know how to take care of you. Try asking for what you want. Say hey guys could use some support can everyone email me and shut up and be supportive.
You're only young once, but you can be immature any time!

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:36 AM

Mal4Prez, whenever you need a lift, and we can help, come to us! There is a guarantee that someone on this board will be in a good mood and can help out.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:38 AM

FMF Look out for yourself. Try an easy one first, but make sure you can get rid of him as soon as something great come along. An ego builder. It may take awile to find someone truly worthwhile. I suggest building a small circle of friends who can point you in the right direction. I'm just talking out my ass so whoever feels like roughing me up, feel free to do so.
As for the dressing up/ demenor preferance of a woman. I like 50/50. Some one clean who likes to dress up on occasion. Likes some, but not all the things I like and doesn't mind getting dirty. Basically a woman who can do the hiking and gardening and watering but cleans up all shiny. Love the dirty girls who clean up nice!

Jayne: I was gonna get me an ear too.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:45 AM

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Originally posted by Tristan:
Mal4Prez, whenever you need a lift, and we can help, come to us! There is a guarantee that someone on this board will be in a good mood and can help out.

Thanks Tristan! It was one of those silly things when I was overreacting to a situation, just needed some coaxing through it.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:50 AM

ZEEK

I really never thought about masturbation with a SO. Do women really need a road map about guys down there? I thought we were pretty straight forward.

Dressed up or not: Well thing is the dressed up version is just so hot it's not even funny. However, I think it's only good when it's the exception instead of the rule. I'm perfectly happy with my girl being in jeans and a t-shirt or sweatpants or whatever. If I'm just girl watching though all dressed up is the way to go.

And for a few topics back I'm circumsized and I don't have any complaints.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:52 AM

I have the same problem. Especially with the crap I am in now. My friends can't really deal so they respond to the happy stuff - not the bad.

Truthfully, I come here. I post in the logs. There is such kindness and love here that someone NEVER fails to say EXACTLY what I need to hear.

:) You need someone to vent to - try me tracyrgibson@gmail.com :)

Thats for all ya'll!

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:58 AM

Thansk FMF, and MSG!

Look at me, I'm getting all teary-eyed. Guess it was bothering me more than I thought!

All right, I'm going out for coffee and some hard core science talking. That always works to numb the emotional state.

Edit: meant to say, MSG - I think you nailed it on the head. People really get thrown when they see a strong person being not so strong. I still haven't found a way to deal.

Guess I'll stick with the internet - the place to let one's weak flag fly. (Ok, that was really lame...)

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:00 AM

Oh M4P, just dump on us all of your sorrows and frustrations. All will listen. Besides, when I get that feeling it seems that no one is listening until it is really needed. Just seems funny that messages are answered quicker by folks that want something return. So, uh M4P, got any money I could bum?

Nothing is cooler than a chick that don't need makeup. Not only do you not have to wait while she puts her face on, it don't get all rubbed off during happy time. Nothing says "I just slept with someone" like makeup imprints on clothes. That and some women insist on limiting the amont of touch because of the time it took them to gussy themselves up. "Don't touch my face" and "Don't you be pullin' my hair". Where's the fun in that?

Mal: Bwah.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:01 AM

We'll be here...discussing...well, stuff and all.

Enjoy the coffee!

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:04 AM

Gosh you've all been busy whilst I was working (actually working for once, ye gods it's a miracle! You guys must be a good influence or something, you seem to have woken me up with all your fun talk!)

Masturbating in front of partner? I've thought about this as a good way of showing what I like as I'm too shy to say outright (I get much less articulate when naked) but there's that pesky shyness when it comes to sex that would make me embarrassed to be looked at. I am getting over that (I used to hide under the covers and insist the lights be off!). I recently made a dirty home movie with my friend which I then watched and actually enjoyed! I could never have done that before!
Hhhm, maybe I should film myself masturbating as a little erotic pressie/ educational film next Valentine's Day. Last February I was cheeky enough to take a picture of myself naked carefully positioned behind a large Anglo Saxon shield and sent it with a Valentine card! He he! See, I think I've grown in confidence!

Hhhm, we have moved on from where I was afraid to say Porn for fear of causing offence!

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:05 AM

LYSANDER

I really like to see a woman who likes to dress up. My wife dresses professionally when she is teaching and she looks good. There are also times when jeans and t-shirts are goos enough. I really think tha it is the removal of all that is best.

Okay, here is a question. Do you prefer to watch your SO undress or do you like to do it yourself? Watching is really good, but after so long I find myself helping out a bit.

Simon: What if he(Mal) tells you to kill me?
Zoe: (without hesitation) I kill you.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:08 AM

Thanks for the advice NV

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:09 AM

Emma...I, uh...Anglo-Saxon shield? Can I be put on your Valentine's day mailing list? Please?

Wow. I'll, uh...be in my bunk...there are times when I hate having an active imagination...and I don't even know what you look like....

Yes, we seem to have progressed way beyond saying "porn" and giggling like schoolkids. I am glad of this. I was afraid this type of thread would quickly become mired down with inane and stupid comments, but I am happy to say I have been proven wrong!

Emma, once again...wow.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:12 AM

I think since I suffered the idignity of the whole world seeing my picture, and since we have seen Tristan and I would see NV if I could get to Myspace from here - we should have a "post your pic" thread.

So we KNOW who we are talking to.

But then I could just shut up

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"We don't fear the reaper"

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:13 AM

LOL NV I love the accented typing.. however the right make-up doesn't rub off and it takes me less than 3 minutes to do the whole shebang( food for thought)

Emma hey I never thought of that. It's great idea video yourself doing your thing and present to partner...hmm that could really work out. Plus I bet he'd like it too.

Mal4prez- well you know we love you everyday strong or weak HUGS!!

FMF- I'd post mine if I knew how, but my hubby does so I could have him do it when he gets home:)
You're only young once, but you can be immature any time!

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:15 AM

OK may I just say that any woman who limits touching activities due to a hair do or make-up is a sad strange little freak!!

You're only young once, but you can be immature any time!

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:16 AM

FMF, there was no indignity in seeing your picture...quite the opposite, actually

Your idea sounds good. Not sure that everyone would agree, but I'll leave it y'all to decide. I personally have no problem with it.

Lysander, I love watching women undress, but I also sometimes like to help out. But, generally, all of the clothes are off before we get into the bed anyway...so there aren't alot of opportunities for disrobing.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:21 AM

I know I am just going to miss a ton, but I have to go now. Meeting family then on to nail appointment. drat I rally don't want to leave....must pull self away from keyboard.

You're only young once, but you can be immature any time!

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:25 AM

msg, we will see you when you get back!

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:27 AM

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Originally posted by Tristan:
FMF, there was no indignity in seeing your picture...quite the opposite, actually

Your idea sounds good. Not sure that everyone would agree, but I'll leave it y'all to decide. I personally have no problem with it.

Lysander, I love watching women undress, but I also sometimes like to help out. But, generally, all of the clothes are off before we get into the bed anyway...so there aren't alot of opportunities for disrobing.

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Too kind. I think I look like a pig with a pig nose. oink oink. Or a cocker spaniel. LOL

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:29 AM

FMF, not at all. You are a beautiful woman, and you need to realize that. Or, all of us here could just keep telling you over and over again until you accepted our judgement.

I need to actually take a more recent picture of me...I think the one most of you have seen was from my wedding two years ago...I no longer have all that hair...maybe I can talk the wife into shooting one or two of my tonight.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:32 AM

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Originally posted by Tristan:
FMF, not at all. You are a beautiful woman, and you need to realize that. Or, all of us here could just keep telling you over and over again until you accepted our judgement.

I need to actually take a more recent picture of me...I think the one most of you have seen was from my wedding two years ago...I no longer have all that hair...maybe I can talk the wife into shooting one or two of my tonight.

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Hang on - I am mournng the loss of all that beautiful hair.

My pic is about 2 years old too. It is also 1 of only 2 pictures taken in the last 20 years in which I am smiling. That must mean something! I will have to pee myself laughing in the new one!

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"We don't fear the reaper"

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:35 AM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

I am back briefly. Still writing that little thing about my techniques, I will post it sometime!
FMF; I'm actually impressed. I tend to have way fewer orgasms when I go solo. WAY fewer.
Never masturbated with a partner. Always think there are more interesting things I could be doing

Mal4prez, it's possible they don't know how to handle it. It's also possible you need better friends. I'm fairly independant, but I've had my breakdowns and my friends always try to help. They don't always do it well but they do try.
Dressing up; I tended to really dress up for dates. I would never wear my date clothes if I wasn't on a date because guys would think I was advertising easy sex if I wasn't with someone. I would usually not wear lipstick, though, because if I do I leave marks all over. Like NV said; what's the fun in not being able to wrestle?
I don't want my SO to take anything off; I wanna do it. And I want them to take my clothes off. It's just sexy that way, and you get to stay close. And man, if there is anything better than the teasing of unbuttoning a shirt bit by bit...
Ahem. This is not going to help me get to sleep! I should be asleep gorrammit!
And y'all know what I look like... At least what I would look like were I to burst into flames. And there's one in Copilot's birthday thread where I photoshopped a Jayne hat onto my head.
Did I cover everything? I might be off to bed, then. I am so not tired!

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:40 AM

I'd love to see what all you guys look like! (I tried for ages to look for your picture on the dating site you posted but it woudn't let me, possibly because I wasn't American)
I'd be happy to post one of me (no, not that one!)

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:46 AM

prepare ye for the ick edit (god I hate this [icture)

and for giggles

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"We don't fear the reaper"

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:49 AM

Alright, pictures seem to be a "go"...the question is where to post them? Some of us have myspace accounts, some have photobucket, some livejournal...would it be easier to post them off this site and just post links to them?

Back to the clothing removal thing...I love being disrobed! I even love the akwardness of trying to get pants off of someone...*which leg will she lift first?*...another wonderful shocker is discovering that the SO was not wearing underwear...if all of this disrobing is following an evening out, the mind just takes a trip back through the date with the new realization that there was NO UNDERWEAR being worn. Kinda amps things up a bit. Although it is nice to know beforehand, too. The little whisper during dinner "by the way, I am not wearing any underwear"...

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:51 AM

PR: I always wanted to use, "Wanna Wrassle?" as a pickup line. I always liked it when my ex would dressup and flirt with everyone but go home with me. Made me feel, well, special. I agree on the whole BROWNCOAT photo board idea. Love to be able to post the travels of my future Jayne hat. In the mountains, working on the truck, at the range, in the mosh pit. It will travel. "Have Jayne hat, will travel" cards to hand out will be the next thing I have made.
Not to mention the "other" places the Jayne hat will travel. Sorry, no photo ops for "other".

Response after seeing FMF, "DANG!"

Mal: Bwah.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:51 AM

My god! You're really stunning! I'm not just saying this but I think you are much more sexy now than in the earlier photo (which kind of looks like a mug shot! Something you're not telling us?)

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:52 AM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

I'll say it again, FMF, I think you are lovely and have a very nice smile. And a nice nose, too, in fact. And nice cheekbones when you smile. And nice legs. You have some nice legs!

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:57 AM

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Originally posted by EmmaRigby:
My god! You're really stunning! I'm not just saying this but I think you are much more sexy now than in the earlier photo (which kind of looks like a mug shot! Something you're not telling us?)

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oh the tears the tears! you used ME and sexy in the same sentence!

Sorry, oh yeah let me wipe the tears! Whoo hooo

Seriously, I was 16 in that picture and HEAVILY medicated! That was the year my allergies started and I sort of glided through school in a fog! Plus I don't like to smile.

But I thank you all for your kind words - money is in the mail!

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:59 AM

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You have some nice legs!

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Thanks I DO have nice legs. Its me favorite thing :)

OK all - you've seen mine (so to speak) wheres yours? Where are we putting them?

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 8:59 AM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Okay, so this long-ass thing is done. Then I'm really going to bed. Really!

Multiple orgasms and stuff.
Ok, so here’s my thoughts and techniques on multiple orgasms for my sistren who could use it. And brethren, too, actually, because these can work for men.
For the men, I will start off by saying that ejaculation and orgasm are not necessarily the same thing. Really, they aren’t. I’m sure many men have experienced the kind of pleasure that makes them feel like jelly, and it usually isn’t typical. So you, too, can make use of what I say. Maybe.
First of all, I will talk about full-body orgasms. This is the kind where your whole body seizes up and your vision (in my case) goes dark. I usually feel a gathering energy/tension in the area of my sacral chakra (between the belly button and the crotch), followed by an explosion, but usually not muscles tensing. They are wonderful, and are usually what is achieved through “indirect” stimulation. Direct stimulation tends to cause the contracting of muscles, etc. Though I have found that occasionally either type can come from either stimulation.
It is my theory that, since nerve endings are everywhere, every location on the body can deliver pleasure. You just have to go after it in the correct way for a long time. Thing about it; even genital stimulation doesn’t deliver instant orgasms, so why would it happen anywhere else? You have to focus on the area. Different areas like different stimulation, depending on how you are. Many of the best areas are the ones you can bite (actually, it’s more like chewing to have the right effect) because the teeth can deliver wonderfully focused stimulation and can’t be used on more tender areas.
Alright, so here is how I view the nervous system. I am going to stress that I’ve found this thinking and technique far less effective if I am not with someone I love and trust. Trust is a big issue because you are opening yourself up to being more vulnerable in a certain way.
Alright, the nervous system runs through our whole body. All nerves are connected. Therefore, if you are focused on how it feels to be touched/rubbed/bitten/licked/sucked on and the like, really focus, you can feel the sensation spread. It can go through your whole body; your whole nervous system, which means it can trigger any nerves necessary for orgasm. It’s just nerve stimulation, anyway, really. So open your nerves, feel them firing, feel the sensation traveling, and that should leave to some mind-blowing experiences. Also, since no area gets worn out, tender, or over-stimulated, the amount of orgasms possible is virtually unlimited. And it (for me) is almost a snowball effect; the more I have, the more I’m going to have, because the more and more aroused I get. The longer you go with this, the less it takes to achieve another orgasm. Eventually, they are almost instant!
I have found that hard rubbing with the tips of fingers, gentle scratching, biting and gnawing, holding skin with teeth and flicking the tongue over it many times, and sucking softly are what works best. This is, however an area for exploration. Anything should work, as long as you find the right technique for the right area.
That is the sum of it. See? How could this be a whole book? It's only a page!

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:00 AM

Yep, you caught me checking out her legs too! Put a smile on my face!

I don't have any really flattering photos to hand (there are only 3 I think in existence that I actually like!) but I'll a couple already on the web.
Here I was all middle aged at a wedding (must have been REALLY evil in that hat!):
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/t.groves/members/wedding/Gill3.JPG

And this was at a 1940's murder mystery party where I was a triffle red and tiddly (I always go scarlet when I drink!):
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/t.groves/members/1940/images/Gill%20garte
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Sorry, should we have started a new thread for these? Don't mean to hijack!

Edited so that I have actual photos and can be more exhibitionist to you all! I like leaping out of a thread all huge (would prefer to be less huge but I like my food too much!)
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Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:05 AM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

I have no problem having the pics here. Mine's in my sig of course.
I could post the unaltered one, though.

It's a couple years old, but I haven't changed that much. This was me at RHPS, hence why I'm a bit dolled up and low-cut.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:07 AM

PENGUIN

*reads thread*

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:10 AM

PR "WOW, good instructions."

EMMA: No response (in a good way).

FMF: Okay so uh yeah. Ditto.

I think I just found hero's for the hero list on Myspace. (Can't count the mancrush. You know who you are.)

Mal: Bwah.

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:10 AM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

What, Penguin? TMI? Here?

Thanks, NV, I'm glad they're good. I just kinda banged them out. That seems to be how I do my best writing, though.

And Emma... I've seen it before... But maybe I forgot... You also have some nice legs!

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Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:12 AM