Other Bonus Material... by arcbeatle

Oh boy howdy, I'd also be eternally grateful if there were some way of downloading and copying to cd all the great stuff on the original Firefly site. Before it disappears forever! I may be wrong about this, but if you have Quicktime Pro ($30), can't you download to disk Quicktime clips that lesser mortals can only view on the web? Is there anyone out there with Pro who could give this a try? If that works, I'd seriously consider upgrading.

Oh, and I know this is probably the most asinine question everhttp://

-- please forgive me as I'm a very new browncoat (but a totally obsessive one!): why is the Blue Sun clip on the original Firefly site described as containing a "very familiar face" or something like that?? Who's the girl drinking the canned whatever in the clip? Many thanks for any info on that.

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Wednesday, January 7, 2004 9:21 AM

SEGURANT

here is the link to the old Fox site if you are looking for it.

http://www.fox-tv.com/firefly/index.htm

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Wednesday, January 7, 2004 9:29 AM

MAKEROFPATHS

Well, there's just a whole bunch of you (new) guys.

You must have QuickTime Pro to save to disc. It's well worth it because otherwise, you can't save movie trailers and that most desirable of all, FF cast interviews, Blue Sun ads, and whole bunch of other things formerly located at the Fox FF site and now archived by the owner of this very site, fireflyfans.net. The url is:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/firefly/index.htm

And I've no idea who that Blue Sun "face" is in the ad.

Addition: I note that just ahead of me is a URL for a Fox site with FF material. I didn't know it still worked.

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Wednesday, January 7, 2004 10:00 AM

GLENYAPPA

I believe the Blue Sun face is Kelly who was a production assistant and wrote the weblog on the official site.

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Wednesday, January 7, 2004 10:14 AM

KERNELM

Quote:
Originally posted by makerofpaths:
Well, there's just a whole bunch of you (new) guys.

You must have QuickTime Pro to save to disc. It's well worth it because otherwise, you can't save movie trailers and that most desirable of all, FF cast interviews, Blue Sun ads, and whole bunch of other things formerly located at the Fox FF site and now archived by the owner of this very site, fireflyfans.net. The url is:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/firefly/index.htm

Actually, it depends on how the file is accessed. You can download almost all the videos from the FFF mirror directly, by looking at the file source of the popup window. You'll see that all the videos are accessed via HTTP, so you can save the files directly through that URL. (You might want to use a download program like wget, since otherwise the browser will likely try to play the video directly without asking you if you want to save the file first. I dunno about the Windows programs like GetRight.) The only videos you can't save are those that were accessed through streaming protocols, basically all the ones that have three format (QT, WMV, and RM) options. Not only were those streamed, the streams are gone already anyway.

Actually, I might as well just list all the videos I found on FFF mirror, in the video directory (i.e. http://www.fireflyfans.net/firefly/video/). Note that you can't access the directory listing directly since it's protected. If I shouldn't be doing this, Haken, please edit the following.
Edit: Actually, the link somebody posted above of the fox hosted site seems to be the old site back again! So to save some FFF bandwidth, download from the Fox site, appending the following filenames to http://www.fox-tv.com/firefly/video/

SFX.mov
bluesun.mov
book.mov
costume.mov
dailies1_hi.mov
dailies2_hi.mov
directing.mov
doctor.mov
effects_1_hi.mov
effects_2_hi.mov
exteriortour.mov
firefly1_lo.mov
firefly2_lo.mov
firefly_logo.mov
geek.mov
goodies.mov
jayne.mov
jewel.mov
jossdirects.mov
jossint_1.mov
jossint_2.mov
jossint_3.mov
jossint_4.mov
kelly.mov
malcolm.mov
minear_lo.mov
moreinterior.mov
script_hi.mov
serenity_takeoff.mov
serenitytour.mov
sister.mov
timint_1.mov
timint_2.mov
trainjob_anecdote.mov
trainjob_bar_large.mov
trainjob_chairs.mov
trainjob_gun.mov
trainjob_joss.mov
trainjob_kelly.mov
trainjob_language.mov
trainjob_montage.mov
trainjob_riffraff.mov
wash.mov
whedon_lo.mov

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And I've no idea who that Blue Sun "face" is in the ad.

It's Kelly, who did most of the weblog on the old site. She's also a Producer's Assistant, and she's interviewed in the kelly.mov video. And it's her talking to Nathan in the trainjob_kelly.mov video.

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Wednesday, January 7, 2004 10:27 AM

Thanks for listing all that info....but alas, from this end, no joy. In a burst of giddy enthusiasm at the idea of saving these great downloads for posterity (i.e., onto disk), I paid for Quicktime Pro. Yup, paid $29, then blast! Didn't work. Couldn't save any of them to disk. Ditto no luck with your most recent FF mirror info. I appreciate your effort, though, even though it didn't work for me.

Darn, darn, darn. It's too bad this great stuff isn't available for the fantatic fervent fans....although maybe it's a matter of authorship/copyright?

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Wednesday, January 7, 2004 10:35 AM

KERNELM

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Wednesday, January 7, 2004 10:39 AM

SAINT JAYNE

Quote:
Originally posted by makerofpaths:
You must have QuickTime Pro to save to disc.

I wouldn't put money on that. Ripping from the Web is fun and easy. There are many ways; I'll go into detail only if anyone cares.

It looks like KernelM has already done all the work, anyhow.

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Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:11 AM

Kernelm, if I were Ben Edlund I'd write an ultra-praising song about you! "The Hero of FF.net" or something. Thank you so much. Downloading these worked beautifully. As a new but scarily fervent FF fan you can be sure I'll be forever grateful to you for your help. All hail Kernelm!

Saint Jayne, I'd be intrigued to know more about ripping from the web. I don't know if it makes a diff that I'm a Mac user, which may be scandalous to people here. But hey, I have OS X, which is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

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Wednesday, January 7, 2004 12:17 PM

I should add that I don't want to rip Firefly eps from the web....I've bought four sets of the dvds and am all about seeing that people do the same. That's how the movie will (hopefully) get made. But ripping various other stuff from the web? Little blurbs and such? That'd be great.

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Wednesday, January 7, 2004 3:58 PM

SAINT JAYNE

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Originally posted by phlebotinin:
Saint Jayne, I'd be intrigued to know more about ripping from the web.

Mac is good. Internet Explorer? Go into preferences, receiving files, file helpers and look for the extension of "MOV" (probably under "Quicktime"). Change this. You can specify to download the file instead of displaying it. Once you're done collecting all your MOV files, you can turn this back.

KernelM had a good, easy idea: Write your own HTML link, right click and save.

For example: namehttp://www.domain.com/file.mov">name;

I just use a text-only browser. They can't display graphics or movies (or anything else) but they do let you save them to disk. Lynx is good - there's a beta version for Mac. There's also MacLynx and WannaBe. I've never used them, but I've read great reviews about the later. Search for "text only web browser mac" on Google for a variety.

For those last two ideas you'll need to find the URL. It's normally as easy as clicking View, Source.

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Wednesday, January 7, 2004 6:08 PM

Cool! Thanks a lot, Saint Jayne. Maybe I'll have to ask Ben Edlund to write a song for you, too. (Yeah, in my pathetic dreams.) Haven't tried out your suggestions yet but you can bet I will -- soon. Wish me luck...I'm kind of a computer wussie, but learning more and more each day.

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Thursday, January 8, 2004 10:08 AM

More bonus material:

I was just about to ask if anyone had seen clips of FOX's ads floating around when I stumbled onto a page with almost every last variation of every promo (and a sweet layout to boot). Browncoats rock.

http://www.have-dog.com/firefly/

Highlights include FOX billing Inara as a "cosmic hooker," the tagline "prepare for warp speed" (?!?) and footage of Reaver ships used to stand in for the Alliance chasing Serenity. Most of the ads also bowdlerize out as much of the Western flavour as possible in favour of action, briefly glimpsed nudity and Smash Mouth announcing their plans to buy the world a toke.

(I much prefer the previews Canada's Global ran last year. They'd start out with only Western scenes of gunfights and cow herds with a narration about life in frontier times, followed by Serenity buzzing the camera for a perfect WTF moment. Only then do they proceed to blow your mind with the special effects)

As for the missing War Stories trailer, there's one here, although I could only get audio out of it and couldn't save it to disk at all:

http://www.fanscape.net/firefly/trailer.html

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Thursday, January 8, 2004 12:19 PM

SHINY

Thanks for the link, Blinker...but I have to say, I find that narrator's voice EXTREMELY ANNOYING!!! (and in general, those promos and 'next week' clips just don't seem to stay true to the flavor of Firefly...)

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

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Thursday, January 8, 2004 6:52 PM

Oh thanks so much for providing the directory of files for download. I've been wanting to get my hands on these for awhile; you've made this so wonderfully easy.

My offer to other browncoats is still out there--for those will insanely slow download speeds, I will burn this onto CD ROM for anyone who wants it (once I get them all downloaded, that is) and send copies. Just ask me via email at lee@leeheller.net

This assumes I'm not inundated with requests. . . .

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Thursday, January 8, 2004 8:17 PM

You can also do the same thing with Netscape--go into Edit/Preferences, then in Navigator go to Helper Applications, then either find the MOV application (Quicktime) and change it to "Save to disk" or create the application: MIME type--Quicktime; extension--MOV and select "Save to disk"

Wish I'd known this before I also forked out $29 for QT Pro. . . .

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Friday, January 9, 2004 9:14 AM

Quote:
Thanks for the link, Blinker...but I have to say, I find that narrator's voice EXTREMELY ANNOYING!!! (and in general, those promos and 'next week' clips just don't seem to stay true to the flavor of Firefly...)

No arguments here... but (a) they're fun fodder for FOX-bashing, and (b) I'm a completist.

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Friday, January 9, 2004 11:20 AM

Thanks a million, Bleeker.

Leeh, forgive my insane computer incompetence, but I'm trying to do what you suggested for changing Netscape to be able to download Quicktime files to disk. (I also paid $29 for Quicktime Pro, darnit).

My problem is that when I go into Helper Applications, I can type in extension (mov) and MIME type (Quicktime) but there's no choice that I can see to be able to "select to save to disk." However, I'm supposed to type in something for "handled by."

Would you mind helping me out here? I'm such a computer dummy, but I'm trying. The thing is, if you're trying to learn but don't have quite the knowledge yet, then if you try to do google searches for advice you end up with stuff that is just a tad too technical.

Thanks for any help you can give.

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Friday, January 9, 2004 5:10 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Thanks one and all for the links. (and a veritable orgy of ripping and burning occurs) Ai ya! Sounds like a reaver raid. Praise God for hi-speed cable.

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Friday, January 9, 2004 8:54 PM

Well, it may depend on what version of Netscape you have. I'm working with 7.1, the latest. So for that version, here's what to do:

Select the Edit menu, then select Preferences, then Navigator, then Helper Applications, then select "New Type" if Quicktime isn't already listed there, or highlight Quicktime if it is. If it is, once you highlight it, select "Edit" and the choices should pop up for whether to open or save to disk. If Quicktime isn't there, and you choose "New Type" then you should have the option of naming the MIME type as Quicktime and the file extension as MOV, as well as whether to open or save to disk.

IF these directions don't help, then I wonder if you have an older version. The way to find out what version you have is to select the Help menu, then "About" and it will tell what version you have. You can upgrade for free if you go the Netscape web site--I just did about 2 weeks ago.

Good luck. I'm not much of a computer geek (just a wannabe) so if I can do it, you can!

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Monday, February 9, 2004 9:58 AM

One more bonus I couldn't find linked above or mirrored on FFF.net: the website promo for Out of Gas...

http://www.fox-tv.com/firefly/message/viral.swf

I assume this is what they're referring to at the end of the War Stories commentary, although Nathan doesn't look all that beaten up.

The original page was http://www.fox-tv.com/firefly/message, but Fox replaced the distress signal with a clip from Ariel after OoG aired.

_________
Sliders: Gate Haven - http://slidersweb.net/blinker

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Monday, February 9, 2004 11:09 AM

Yes, I put almost all of the featurettes, plus the longer gag reel, on DVD. I'll be happy to send you a copy, but be sure your DVD player can read home-burned discs (some older players can't). I do ask for $5 to cover the cost of the blank DVD ($4) plus postage ($1.06).

If you want the disc, email me at lee@leeheller.net and give me your mailing info!

"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle. . . ."

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Thursday, December 2, 2004 8:10 AM