Male and Female Imponderables--The Troubles are Past by Tristan

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Well, here I am! Just got back from screening and dinner! My but it was good to see the BDM on the Big Damn Screen again! And I got to meet OnTheDrift, which is shiny

Anyway, that's all I really have to say right now; I enjoyed myself and now I'm back home and trying to keep that shiny feeling. I'm still irked at Ex of Doom, though

I dunno, I think Seryn's advice about keeping my dignity is about right. It's just knowing exactly how to do that. Gah.

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 5:46 AM

PR- Hey read the ex email and may I say.."Shaver's on standby!" He's a jerk and his "I panicked" is because after he said what he did and he spent some time without you he realized how great you were and how badly he screwed up by thinking only of himself and now he's trying to excuse his behavior. I think we should shave the rat bald ( and I do mean bald) and post him on a nice website maybe men seeking felons:)

We're back Yippeee!!! Sadly also back from trip. Husband got sick and wanted to come home so we drove 5 hours last night and got in at one am. Having you guys all back makes up for it though!! ALl better rage and disappointment gone I have FF:)

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 6:13 AM

OK I know bad double post, but I am so happy to be back and able to post it's made me a bit giddy....I feel like singing ( though quietly as sick husband is still asleep) Anyway, morning and hello to you all:)

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 6:42 AM

Hallo!
Its great to have you back also! Yey!

I was going to say something to something you posted, and it was a very interesting something i'm sure. But I forgot it and now I'm just waffling or something.

I will re-read, and post tonight!

Many best wishes for your poorly hubby.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
FozzieWash, Hey, look! They're sending us free lumber!
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Saturday, June 24, 2006 6:54 AM

Thanks Seryn- I'm sure it was a comment that was witty and poignant:) Hubby is doing better and he thanks you for your good wishes. HUGS...isn't it nice to be back:)

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 7:04 AM

ZZETTA13

Ok I will post some famous words from my wife.

"MEN! You can't live with them, and you can't shoot 'em

Well she could shoot me. But its hard to hit a moving target.

Z

"..and we never stop moving." Mal

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 7:12 AM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Awwwwww, MSG

you always know just what to say!
And I've made my decision about it. As many things as I would like to say to him, and as many things as I think he needs to hear, I am going to do nothing. I gave him a warning and a promise: "If you push me out of your life completely I'm not coming back." I realized that responding, especially via e-mail, would be an itty-bitty breach of that promise. The big difference between him and me is that when I say something I actually mean it, and I would like that to hold true. If he calls me or actually confronts me in person I'll have no choice but to say something to him, but it will probably be along the same lines as what I just said here about not coming back.
It's difficult for me, but I respect myself enough not to fall back into any kind of trap with him. I'm sure everyone here has experienced losing someone they really cared about, and I'm not going to say I never miss him; at least the version of him before he went crazy. Which is kind of the point. Now that version is lost and only in my memories and there's no point in trying to regain it in some fashion or another. There's not even any point in having a quick exchange just in hopes that we can end on a better note than we did.
He made his decision, he was very aware of what he was doing, and he was flat-out told what the consequences would be. Time he learned to deal with those kinds of consequences, methinks.
Really I think nearly any other course of action would make him feel like what he did wasn't that bad, and it was. It still is. He shouldn't think that kind of behavior is okay or he'll just keep at it.
Plus, he doesn't deserve any more energy from me.
So, I am very glad all of you were here to help me think through this, I thank you very much for all your comments, insight, and support. I can only hope that such a thing does not happen again. I'm not fond of that tight feeling in my stomach.
You are all, of course, free to exact revenge on my behalf

*ahem* All joking(ish) aside, I'm sure that what his life is likely to be like is more than enough revenge. He's in for a lot of nasty bites from the cruel teeth of Lady Reality. It's not going to be fun for him. I'm almost glad I don't have to try walking him through such things anymore. Me being how I am, I wouldn't have minded then, I would have stuck with him through nearly anything he was going through. It was his decision to reject that, and now I'm starting to wonder why I was willing to put up with so much, and starting to be glad that now I'm not anymore. It's funny to me what I'll put up with for something I feel good about; at least, until that good is gone. If there's no good to balance it out, I don't put up with

So I won't. I am done with him and may it serve as a lesson in his life.
Hwoon-dan.

*edit* LOL! Can't shoot 'em! Well, yeah, he's hardly worth a jail term.

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 7:38 AM

BLACKSHAMROCK5

PR- Wow, I think that that is the best thing you can do. Karma will take care of him and all you have to worry about is taking care of yourself and making sure that you are happy. Sorry if you're all "Who the hell is this" I'm a huge lurker. Not big on the posting.

Shamrock

Remember that a kick in the ass is a step forward.

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 7:42 AM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

I am honored that you would come out of lurker mode for me!

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 7:46 AM

BLACKSHAMROCK5

No problem. I'm trying to ease myself out of it...fells good.

Shamrock

Remember that a kick in the ass is a step forward.

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:04 AM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Well shiny!

We all look forward to hearing from you a bit more!

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:18 AM

MSG, i'm afraid its totally gone. Disappeared, down the pan.

My one witty comment and there it goes.

Sorry! I'll remember at somepoint and yell it at you when it means absolutely nothing.

Ok, new topic -

girls, the guys on dating sites/myspace/faceparty whatever, who use pictures of their chests on their profile. What do you think? Sad? Sexy? Attractive? Pathetic? Hunky? Stupid? Sign of a personality vacant? Cake icing? Does it make you more or less inclined to take them seriously? Would you jump in with a 'yes please' or instantly delete their messages?

Lads - girls using pictures of their tits. I think I know what the answer may be, but in the interests of equality, I have to ask.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
FozzieWash, Hey, look! They're sending us free lumber!
http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:37 AM

A pretty picture is always nice! Although if the only picture is of the chest that's a little wierd. Just means an ugly face! So I'm doing wonderful being alone. Except I'm starting to notice that FSO was kind of my sugar daddy. Without much sugar but he did pay for a lot! Oh well I have my friends and lots of love so I'm happy if a little poor.

An I carried such a torch

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 10:32 AM

yeah, i keep getting loads of guys sending me messages, and their pictures are just photo's of their (allbeit, buff and muscly) chests. Its not that I object to that sort of thing, but ican't help my first reaction being
'What? Is that all you have to say for your self? Ooh, look at me, I have upper body muscle groups'

I did used to read their profiles, but every single one of them was almost identikit - very little original stuff. 'I like footie and workin out and drinkin wiv me mates.'

That or they are form another country and i'm pretty sure they just want to marry for a passport.

I don't know. Whatever clues you can glean from a mans left boob as to personality and brains are just lost on me I guess. And after a while it wasn't even fun to ogle the pictures af muscly naked types.

Are my standards to high?

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
FozzieWash, Hey, look! They're sending us free lumber!
http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 11:14 AM

yeah I have to comment that nothing says I am vain and vacant with no real sense of myself other than my appearance like guys or girls who lead with body parts...It's like a new paint job on a really bad house...snazzy to look at, but moving in is out of the question:)

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 1:16 PM

Wow, MSG, can I just bow a little? maybe set up one of those cookie shrines?

That was my exact feelings summed up in less than thousands of words! How do you guys do that?

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
FozzieWash, Hey, look! They're sending us free lumber!
http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 2:02 PM

I've got the compact but well-muscled body.

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 2:40 PM

DEEPGIRL187

Speaking of things like myspace, what are you guys feelings on meeting people on sites like that? I've always stayed away myself, heard too many horror stories. But is it really a good way to meet people?

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 2:47 PM

Myspace is fun for friends I wouldn't use it to meet someone to date. Most of my myspace friends are Browncoats from this site! It's great to know a little about there personal lives outside of the 'verse.

An I carried such a torch

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 3:23 PM

Good things have been said about my face...managed to keep itun-rearranged...

I second what copilot said. Although I'm always loose with personal details.

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:01 PM

PIZ

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Originally posted by deepgirl187:
Speaking of things like myspace, what are you guys feelings on meeting people on sites like that? I've always stayed away myself, heard too many horror stories. But is it really a good way to meet people?

I can understand anyone who's leery about meeting people that way - never know who's an axe murderer by way of a hobby. But it's possible to be careful, starting with sticking to LOTS of email exchange before ever meeting to get to know them somewhat, then ALWAYS meeting in a public place until you know the person well enough to trust them.

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"That's what a government's for: get in a man's way." - Mal

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 5:04 PM

Yep safety is key!!!!! Especially to girls like me without a lot of physical streghth!
Okay so here's the sitch....FSO and his new girlfriend (yeah that's right less than 3 weeks and he "met" someone) are probably going to The Rocky Horror Picture Show tonight. Some of the cast is comprised of our mutual friends. I wanted to go but backed out because of this. Arrrggg this pisses me off! He never went anywhere with me! I went to the movies alone (a lot) I went to parties alone! I went to the park alone! F**k now he's going to get all social and I won't get to hang with my friends. My vindictive side kind of wants to start dragging attractive booty call guy around with to shove in his face. The nice side of me just wants to collapse in the corner and cry.

An I carried such a torch

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 5:11 PM

Believe me, attractive booty call guys NEVER help.

Avoid going Dark Phoenix. I've had quite the 'alone' cries in my teen angst, over issues long forgotten. Except for the one girl. And that homophobe.

Feel happy that he met somebody, go matra magic with your emotions: reverse rebirth.

Alright, enough bad advice for me.

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'I don't know. He seems kind of peculiar.'

'Maybe he's Canadian!'

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 5:21 PM

Ok Myspace isn't any worse than any other internet site..anyway Seryn sadly I can either condense or expound but I have no middle ground:) also Copilot we will be happy to beat him bloody if that will help;) we notice I am somewhat violent ( I have had 2 mojitos) unfortunately however well contained I am deeply violent...go figure ( never with students) but my implueses are a mit scary..just let us know hon:)

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 5:44 PM

Although, the best tip?

'Nothing says 'I love you' more than dollars in the waist band.'

I'm ultra-violent too. Usually ends badly.

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'I don't know. He seems kind of peculiar.'

'Maybe he's Canadian!'

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 5:53 PM

It's ok 13 we still love you...and it only says love if the bills are 20's or 50's ...it says tru love if they're 100's ( I am so kidding right now...I am also a bit off due to alcohol consumption) ok 13 just to clarify ..never drink until you are 21..( sorry teacher moment) Anyway, my speace isn't as dangerous as they make it sound it's just a convienent target for internet fear it's not like there were no internet predators before it or something it just has high visibility

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 5:58 PM

Where I come from, I actually DON'T have dollar bills. We got loonies, little coins, that we have to throw at the strippers. If it gets drunk enough, there's bruising..once I gave a faux 1 mil bill...got kicked out...

Wahat?

I've already sworn off the bottle fah good; my family has a history of alcoholism. Possibly related to the violence?

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'I don't know. He seems kind of peculiar.'

'Maybe he's Canadian!'

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:44 PM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Oh Copilot, honey, I feel your pain. Imagine if you had met him at RHPS!
My advice? Get sexed up in your best gear, then show up and be sickeningly cheerful. And above all, ignore him unless he talks to you directly. Act like you don't see or reckognize him. If he does talk to you give him a huge grin and say something like "Oh hey! I didn't know you liked stuff like this! Huh." and just dance away and flirt with the nearest cutie. In fact, flirt like mad the whole time; anything goes at Rocky. You can walk up to total strangers and bite them on the neck. Especially if they're virgins

I always used to use the excuse of "adding" to their lipsticked faces/necks/chests with lip prints. Make sure you bring an tube of nice red lipstick so you can keep refreshing and leave good prints! It's a very innocent way to flirt with a lot of people because you just leave a few lip marks and move on so they know you're not serious. But hopefully it would still make him twitch a little.
And if you have a toy you can bring along and grope, shiny!
Hey, if he's going to act like you can be easily replaced, turnabout is only fair play.

I know it's not the easiest advice to follow. If you do break down, make sure you duck into the bathroom so he doesn't see you. And if you need a virtual shoulder to cry on afterwards, I'm always here that time of night! But it's okay just so long as he doesn't know he got to you.
You know I just realized this is probably coming a little late. Sorry I didn't get on til now!

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 10:41 PM

Okay wierdness! He called me! Just to say hi! The exclaimation points because of the celebration of the mentrating single females tonight! The menstarating hot assed skater females! Yep that's right we're mother f****ing hot s**t! We decided that! Yeah we've decided a lot of things lately! Being single and female rules the world bows at our feet but we still call the exes a lot! Yuck! and Yay! Oh god this is way harder than expected!

An I carried such a torch

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 10:53 PM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

What is it with doomful exes getting in touch with us lately?

I need chocolate.

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 10:59 PM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
PR- Hey read the ex email and may I say.."Shaver's on standby!" He's a jerk and his "I panicked" is because after he said what he did and he spent some time without you he realized how great you were and how badly he screwed up by thinking only of himself and now he's trying to excuse his behavior. I think we should shave the rat bald ( and I do mean bald) and post him on a nice website maybe men seeking felons:)

You know, something just occured to me. He wrote to me on the 22nd (nice timing eurgh) and I remembered that the Sun went into Cancer early that day. Cancer tends to be pretty emotional time. I wonder if that had anything to do with it? I'll have to run that by my brilliant astrologer of a mom.

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:57 AM

irritating exes are like busses, never there when you want them then two turn up at once.

There was no point to this post, it was just more interesting than 'bump'.

Marginally.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
FozzieWash, Hey, look! They're sending us free lumber!
http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 6:20 AM

PENGUIN

Quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I need chocolate.

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 6:43 AM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

That is so cute!

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:38 AM

PENGUIN

You seem to be in a better mood today!

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:43 AM

TRISTAN

Morning, all!

Seryn, while I appreciate a nice-looking pair of breasts, I would prefer to look at a profile picture of a face.

I use myspace to keep in touch with browncoats and college friends. I am not sure I would consider using it to troll for a date, though.

That's all I have time for now...I shall return later!

Holding until you get back, Captain.

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:46 AM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Heh. I'm only pissed if I think about it too much, and I was only thinking about it too much because I was confronted with it directly. Now I have made my decision about it and can go back to just having twinges of hurt and anger, rather than being consumed by pain and rage.
Oh dear, that didn't sound very good, did it?

Someday I'll get over it. Maybe.

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 8:29 AM

My ex never makes me ANGRY...she's completely insane, though.

And not charming Fred Burkle insane...not interesting, could-love-her River insane.

Wedding Crashers insane.

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'I don't know. He seems kind of peculiar.'

'Maybe he's Canadian!'

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 8:36 AM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Yes, well, people who say one thing and do another make me angry. Quite angry. Especially when their actions toy directly with my heart. He very abruptly started doing the opposite of anything he said and pissed me off very badly. Now he changed his tune a little bit but is still not owning up to everything he did, which pisses me off more if that's possible. And it hurt very badly.
I'd almost prefer it if he was just Wedding Crashers crazy. She was cute in a disturbing way, and only ever did exactly what she said.

Can we talk about something else?

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 8:43 AM

Good point.

Go Dark Phoenix. This world doesn't have enough vengeance.

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'I don't know. He seems kind of peculiar.'

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 8:46 AM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Oh, if only I could!

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:15 AM

Mild vengence can be very theraputic..Just do something small like posting his name on a herpes alert website or photoshopping a pic of him in girls undies and email it to his mom...little things that make your day a bit brighter and let him understand what it's like to get jerked around a bit:)

Out of curiousity how many people out there have wreaked a little vengence on an ex?

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:21 AM

did anyone ever see this film called 'Hackers'

oh, it was kinda cool. Hopelessly dated now. But there was this one great bit where they're competing to see which is the better hacker, and theres one great bit where their breaking into police records etc to harras this agent hell bent of catching them. And they post his (the agents) number in a fake add on a phone sex site, so all these sicko perverts start calling him up at all funny hours of the day and night.

Anyone seen that movie? No? Nevermind. Just thought i'd mention it, is all.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
FozzieWash, Hey, look! They're sending us free lumber!
http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:26 AM

I've seen it...and I think that part is really funny. I've wondered often if I should do that :)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 12:55 PM

the true beuty of it I always thought, was that it required no effort on the revengers part - zero running about. Even less work than peppering his underwear or vigilante shaving. And it could be done from anywhere in the world - all you need is the number of a phone that only the revengee uses. And et voila! A bunch of rubber fetishists doing all the hard work for you.

But yes, anyway, what were we talking about?

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Monday, June 26, 2006 2:50 AM

TRISTAN

Morning, all!

Exes...sometimes I think it would be easier to just shoot them and move on. I am not currently having any problems with any, so I have no interesting anecdotes to add.

I have some questions that have been nagging me for ahwile...
Does anyone in here use parties as an aphrodisiac? What I mean by that is drinkning, flirting, generally having a good time whether or not your SO is there, and then taking all of that built-up "lust" and unleashing it on the SO when you are alone again?

Holding until you get back, Captain.

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Monday, June 26, 2006 2:53 AM