Male and Female Imponderables--Though This Be Madness... by Tristan

I don't really entirely know what happened. I'm so lonely and all I want to be with someone anyone at all. Even that boy who's been telling me he's in love with me for the last seven years. I don't want to be me anymore. I've given up on life now. I'm quitting everything. This isn't life this is controled suicide.

An I carried such a torch

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:46 AM

SERYN

its not that bad copilot. you just need to take a stap back and calm donw. you are doing everything way to quickly. you need to slow the heck down.

do you even know what you want for sure? do you know who you are?

you're not going to make your situation better until you stop and sort your head out.

Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:48 AM

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

"I cried like a baby. A hungry, angry baby."

Sorry, couldn't help myself. ;)

I saw the new Pirates movie over the weekend, and enjoyed it, though not as much as the first one. They filmed the second and third movies together (a la Lord of the Rings), so I knew the ending was going to be something like that. Thankfully we won't have much of a wait for the third one, pretty sure it'll be out next summer. I enjoyed the development of Keira Knightly's character, and in general I thought it was a good mindless summer flick.

Quick spoiler for the end of the movie, and praise for Orlando Bloom, so skip accordingly:

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Orlando Bloom seems to go through weird spats of not being able to act, and then being able to act extremely well. IMO, he's not very good at acting with his voice or with his whole face, but now and then he can really act with his eyes and eyebrows. The look he gives Elizabeth (Keira Knightly) after he sees her with Jack made my stomach flip. Now that I think about it, he was pretty good at acting with his eyes in LotR, too...

Copilot, honey, are you ok? Yesterday you were really really happy, today you seem really upset. What's happening?

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:48 AM

WHITEFALL

I tell this to people a lot, usually when they get a cold as a joke, but damnit I mean it: Copilot, DON'T DIE!

Bah, anyways, been reading this thread for more than an hour now, trying to catch up...

So lets see... animal cruelty, bad, animal slaughter, unavoidable, and animals do it to each other, not like the perverse human mind invented it. But yeah, gotta be humane, that's something the perverse human mind can do, we'd sure as hell better do it.

Urgh, what else... food: I'm not a picky eater, I'll eat what I have to, but basically i'm a simple eater. I don't like trying new things really, as i've never found anything that was more than a "meh, I suppose I could eat this for the rest of the night without comment"... Still prefer to live on toast, turkey, watermelon, grapes, bread, that sorta thing. Eatin' it like it was a few hundred years ago... (I'm so proud that I might be able to survive in the past hehe, at least in eating terms.)

Eh, can't remember anything else. And now, back to Copilot, damnit there's plenty to live for, if nothing else just keep posting over n over so we know you're ok.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:51 AM

WHITEFALL

Copilot, if you're that lonely, bah, if you want to talk, you could talk here, we'll listen. In a text sort of way. If that'd help.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:00 AM

An I carried such a torch

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:04 AM

wow- I knew if I left you alone for a few hours this would happen:)
NV- sorry about your peach... and I loved the idea of hunting stupid white boys ( reminds me of Elaine Boozlers rift on the she was asking for it rape defense...her response "women go out and find and ugly man and shoot him in the leg. He was asking for it"

Food- Ok I think there is a big difference between vegitarian( people who choose not to eat meats etc and don't make a big deal of it ) and veginazis ( who millitantly try and convert/villify anyone who doesn't see things their way)

Weird food I like Chili and pickles:) sorry but I do.

You've already seen my embarrasing story ( mind you I have many many more)

Guys crying..I don't like guys who cry often or whine at all..but I think tears can be a good thing if they express a genuine emotion and I don't think anyone should feel badly or embarrassed about crying :)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:09 AM

Copilot- OK hon stop what your doing, put down the chemicals, and step back with your arms raised...The reason you feel so awful and crappy and lonely and unloved is because every chemical substance you just mentioned is a central nervous system depressant...so you basically just gave yourself a big case of nasty icky depression and that is your hangover..Now breathe and know you are not a horrible person for making a mistake. Being human is making mistakes feeling like you are worthless because of a mistake is a serious sign that you had parents who shamed you...NOW relax and just take a day to clear your head and let all the nasties seep out of your system and then you can decide what you want to do differently next time...'cause there are always next times and do-overs in real life. You just have to give yourself permission to have a do-over ok:)HUGS and more HUGS

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:32 AM

GED

CP, sweetie, you need to cut the bad habits from running/ruining your life. At least cut down on the alcohol some and drop the pot completely. They not only make you more depressed, but can permanently damage your brain and your body. If you want help or contact information about support groups in your area, feel free to message me and I can help you find some - they really do help. If you want to quit, you don't have to be alone in doing so.

And I'd like to apologize if I'm imposing or overstepping any boundaries. I just hate to see good people get their lives messed up because of addiction or other problems.

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:02 AM

MAL4PREZ

Quote:
Originally posted by copilot:
I'm not suicidal that I know of but it's starting to seem like it.

Been there, got through it. Folks are saying the right thing to you - cuddle up somewhere warm and drink some detox tea and wait for all that crap to get out of your system. And believe me, you're not the only one in the world to think getting wasted was a sensible thing to do!!

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:01 AM

MAL4PREZ

Hello (echo echo echo)

Where did everyone go? There better the usual 3000 messages waiting when I get back to work tomorrow!

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:06 AM

I must admit to doing bad things to myself in bad times.
This weekend I got very snockered. So much that I felt sick. It goes along with the crying thing mentioned earlier. I will go a very long time without crying and wake up in tears. I hate it. But those things build and build until they find somewhere to go.
I drank until I was sick sometimes just to get the poison out. Or I'd walk for days to work it out. Anything to exhaust the bad things ability to hold on.

"On a Wednesday
I'm workin' diggin' ditches"

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:16 AM

RUGBUG

I know I'm at a loss for words. Not really sure what to say other than, Co-Pilot, please be careful.

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:21 AM

Sorry, all. We are short-handed at work today, and things went sideways for a spell.

Copilot, I second MSG. We're here for you as much as the internet will allow. :hugs:

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:25 AM

seems most everyone is pondered out.....
another thing... it seems that there is a conspicuous absence of males in the Male and Female Imponderables.... i'm counting 3, 4 maybe.... i guess we must have you ladies figured out.... right.

and one other thing, while i'm doing absolutely nothing but thinking of strange imponderables.... and this concerns the board from yesterday... during that chaming discussion about, ahem, the trim of the trim.... i probably threw out an off the cuff remark that may have been deemed offensive or demeaning - certainly not my intention - what a woman does wiith her body is entirely up to her.... and i mean in every sense of the word.... (ok...my stand is pro-choice...and mainly because i don't think bureaucrats in government have the right to dicate to a person in a free society..)...am i in trouble yet?

to be honest, i am just so humbly grateful to be allowed access to that particular area, that said area could be festooned with balloons and old christmas ornaments and i would be over-whelmingly happy.....

no one is reading this.... right?

endeavor to persevere...

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:27 AM

Nope, Dayve, no one is reading that. Although I have to agree with you on the balloons and Xmas ornaments.

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:31 AM

Dayve- breathe I can't recall anyone taking offense:)

NV- HUGS to you too darlin and just hang in there it has to get better sometime

Tristan- hey at some point we all have to be right once:)

Sorry for the eternal sunshine, but I have a very sunny disposition combined with a love of the trivial ( I don't mean like trivial pursuit) Very small things make me happy so I concentrate on that. A nice smell, my cat's tummy, a phrase in a book, pondering Brazilians with you guys, my favorite dessert, etc. I've found if you don't sweat the big stuff and just enjoy what's there even if it's stupid and trivial, life kinda works out ok:)

As for an imponderable here's a fun one...according to my magazine most guy's favorite position is woman on top:) Most women say it's their fav too...sooooo let's here it folks...

I expect this makes me an oddity since mine is definitely guy on top...

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by msg:

As for an imponderable here's a fun one...according to my magazine most guy's favorite position is woman on top:) Most women say it's their fav too...sooooo let's here it folks...

At this point in the game, I'm not picky.

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:38 AM

Kenobius no one's picky silly.... I am asking what you're favorite is:)

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:38 AM

MSG, I actually prefer from behind, but woman on top is also highly appreciated. She gets to control what's going on, and I can relax for a bit! Not to mention enjoying the view!

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:40 AM

ok the article mentioned that most guys reasoning for enjoying the woman on top was that they didn't have to do the work. LOL

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
Kenobius no one's picky silly.... I am asking what you're favorite is:)

Well, to have a favorite I guess one would need to have expereniced... well, you get the idea.

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:40 AM

RUGBUG

Dayve,

I, personally, haven't read anything so far that has been offensive. (wait, wasn't there a troll at one point?)

And just for fun, I think there are far more males here than you give credit for. Let's count (if I leave someone off, please chime in. This is from memory...and I am getting older):

Menfolk:
Penguin
Dayve
Tristan
GED
13
Whitefall
NVGHOSTRIDER
Kenobius
Lysander (ocassionally)
ScorpionRegent popped in today
PDCharles

Womenfolk:
MSG
PhoenixRose
Mal4Prez
FMF
Co-Pilot
Rugbug
CaliforniaKaylee
SBDB
Deepgirl187
SpaceAnjl
Seryn

Seems pretty equal. And I just exhibited my love for making useless lists, which I did mention a bazillion threads ago. Also, I get all excited about there actually being men on this board. It's strange as the other board I am active on is 99% female, but that's just the way it is in the horseworld.

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:46 AM

That sounds about right, RugBug! Big, happy family we are!

MSG, the not doing the work was kind of a joke...my real enjoyment of that position is that it allows the female to move as she wants, unfettered by being "pinned" down.

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:46 AM

PENGUIN

Quote:
Originally posted by Dayve:
seems most everyone is pondered out.....
another thing... it seems that there is a conspicuous absence of males in the Male and Female Imponderables.... i'm counting 3, 4 maybe.... i guess we must have you ladies figured out.... right.

and one other thing, while i'm doing absolutely nothing but thinking of strange imponderables.... and this concerns the board from yesterday... during that chaming discussion about, ahem, the trim of the trim.... i probably threw out an off the cuff remark that may have been deemed offensive or demeaning - certainly not my intention - what a woman does wiith her body is entirely up to her.... and i mean in every sense of the word.... (ok...my stand is pro-choice...and mainly because i don't think bureaucrats in government have the right to dicate to a person in a free society..)...am i in trouble yet?

to be honest, i am just so humbly grateful to be allowed access to that particular area, that said area could be festooned with balloons and old christmas ornaments and i would be over-whelmingly happy.....

no one is reading this.... right?

No one but this penguin...and everyone else on the list!

(I do agree with your pro-choice stand)

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:48 AM

msg... i agree, it's the little things that are often overlooked in life. hooray for the little things...

not sure which magazine you're reading, but my Karma Sutra Monthly, says men would twist themselves in pretzels if they thought it would help their chances with the ladies...... (my twisted humor will be the end of me yet)

personally, i like the lower position and my SO is in agreement, although we've been together for some time, we still alter positions often and try new ones as well.... it seems we never end up the way we start.....

endeavor to persevere...

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:48 AM

PENGUIN

I do agree with tristan...but I'll do whatever the lady wants!

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:53 AM

thank you Rugbug... i stand corrected.... (nice list)

endeavor to persevere...

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:54 AM

see now Tristan "pinned down" is a goodly portion of the fun for me so on top just isn't as shiny

Rugubug- excellent list and it is so useful I hadn't realized that we are so well balanced:)

Kenobius- that's ok you can decide later and let us know:)

And if memory serves we had a bit of a thread regarding age of the first time and I didn't chime in and I will now so all can gawk in wonderment ... I was 21 ( spent most of my time rehersing or performing with ballet company for my teen years so there wasn't time nor many available guys with inclinations toward ladies)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:59 AM

RUGBUG- You are wrong. This is a very useful list. Thanks. I feel like I know people now. Wierd huh.

MSG- What did I say before. Men like to be dominated. Just not all of them are willing to admit to it. And frankly, some are just lazy. A-holes. Making us guys who enjoy working hard look bad. Those kind just need a nice cattle prod to the junk to get them moving.

"On a Wednesday
I'm workin' diggin' ditches"

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:02 PM

SERYN

as a fellow useless list maker, and stationary junkie, ithank you for those lists, they were very organised.

I did give an imponderable -but feel free to ignore it.

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is it really really wierd that i think Jack Davenport (norrington) looks so much better for looking like total shit?

He kept coming on screen and i kept seeing him and doing that tummy flippy thing. I hate jack Davenport, he's a whiny bastard, but wow does he work the 'rugged' look.

which i suppose gives us another imponderable.

Have you ever had a moment where you've just suddenly started seeing someone differently? i.e someone you never really noticed before suddenly become a total crush or something?

erm, as for MsG's, imponderable.

er...., hmmm, right (i can't believe i'm going to say this in public) My ExSO's all used to love woman on top (kinda like Mal/Nandi in HOG) but i don't know whether it was just their favorites or because i used to do... Haaa ha, oh god, this 'massage' thing. You know those pelvic exercises we were on about a few threads ago? Well, having done them since i was a kid, i have quite a bit of, um control. So yeah, get the timing right, and, well, they seemed to enjoy it.

man on top is good, purely 'cause it means the angles are right. and the erm, strength is there.

I do hope my mother never reads this. God, my father! I'm pretty sure he's got himself convinced that im still virgin.

Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:04 PM

well lets face it NV...you do know us:) I mean if pressed you could probably write a paragraph or so on our likes dislikes, personality, habits, relationships, attitudes, etc...
Also I think we should reserve cattle prod to the junk for rapists...it seems a bit extreme. Whereas posting their name/pic/and phone number on a herpes alert website should be mandatory for those guys who just want to lie there( same for girls who want to lie there too)

EDIT- Seryn ROTFLMAO That was great and may I say I would seriously have to consider throwing myself into a crevass should my mom or dad read this!!!! especially my daddy
EDIT AGAIN- as for your imponderable...can't say as I have. I have a lot of male friends and I would NEVER see them as anything else ( but that's mainly 'cause i know them too well to even think that)I don't as a general rule get crushes or really get hot and bothered over someone easily ( huge sudden crush on causal not withstanding)
I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
And if memory serves we had a bit of a thread regarding age of the first time and I didn't chime in....

yes, i skipped that one too.... i guess i'll 'fess up now..... and this sounds terrible - but here it is.... i was 15 going on 16 the first time... nothing wrong with that, but the situation was a little awkward.... i was chosen to be a bride-to-be's last fling before tying the knot...(chosen by her crazy girlfriends), don't ask me why.... i still don't know.... but i was set up, i tell ya... at the time all i knew was that this beautiful 20something lady wanted to have sex with me.... i did not protest

endeavor to persevere...

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:18 PM

I like to be on top but I can't do it very much because the guys penis is inevitably too big to fit comfortably. So far I havn't been able to orgasam with anyone but former SO ever!!!!!!! This is really starting to suck!

An I carried such a torch

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:21 PM

hmmm copilot try on your side, legs closed...it limits the depth of entry, but hits the sweet spots...just a thought...and you know there's more than one way to cross the finish line:) Most guys I know would be happy to help you across the line first and then cross themselves after:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:25 PM

A- I wish my parents though I was still a virgin
B- I wish I were still a virgin.
C- Forgot, it grew back.
D- Now I just want to lose it again
E- Whats wrong with me?

Seryn- I hate it when I see someone differently than the others and I have no chance to tell them. Everything is coming to a head though, Can't stand this much longer. Ms. Ponderable better be ready for both barrels because I can't function well without telling her. I smell change coming about.

"On a Wednesday
I'm workin' diggin' ditches"

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:28 PM

NV- I say let her have it and then some...you can only keep the lid on a boiling pot so long before the lid flips off and you get scalded...she should know this:) and we're all behind you ( in a figurative sense and all) but I'd be happy to drop by and whack her around if you want:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:34 PM

SERYN

oh, the huge sudden crushes were allowable i'm sure - there were quite a few hotties unveiled, and we wern't expecting it! it was surprise! honestly!

to me crushes are very different - they mean finding someone i like the look or the sound of the general impression of, but just enjoying the 'sigh' happy flutter' sensations, and never really making any effort to get to know them better. Its fantasy i suppose. With all my ExSO's, i was actually very direct, and the process was quite quick - i one expressed interest, the other reciprocated, things got of to a flying start.

that was all totally beside the point. i think its time to go to bed.

Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:37 PM

I am off to grab dinner with the husband...I'll check back in in about an hour..HUGS to all and sundry:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:38 PM

well, you guys can take me off the list for today....i'm outta here - till tomorrow...adios

endeavor to persevere...

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 1:49 PM

Actually for me there really is only one way to cross the finish line. I want to reword my last entry because it sounds horrible but the site won't let me. Yuckie!!!!!!!!

Why do I want this boy so badly? Why? Why? I barely know him! But he makes my head all fuzzy! I know you're all probably all thinking sweetheart that's not him that's everything else you've been doing! But arrgggg I hate that he exsists away from me. In a world of prettier girls and it makes me want to stamp my feet and pout like a two year old.

An I carried such a torch

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:00 PM

I've been asking myself the same question. There ain't an answer, it just is. Figured that I've been burning so long,(eight months), that the wind may gust and ashes will just blow away. Just can't seem to give up on her.

Where is this world? I'd like to visit and report back.

"On a Wednesday
I'm workin' diggin' ditches"

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:08 PM

copilot...um we've seen you remember...so we know there aren't any prettier girls:) Anyway, sweety enjoy the first rush of infatuation it's my favorite thing ever...and stop worrying so about how much you like him...I'm sure he thinks you're great and if he doesn't ...screw him!!

EDIT- NV I still think she should be bapped hard for leading you on and all...but that's just me ( remember my bappin hand is always on stand by for you)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:23 PM

Well said maam.

Sorry, just took another one of those gorram quizzes and I'm Zoe again! Not that it is a negative thing. Conflicted.

Sorry I can't be much more help COPILOT. We need to create a commune for Browncoats out in the woods somewhere. That way we have a place to run in times of need. That or our own brand of ice cream. We can all sit back and lean on eachother while spooning Mal-adjusted Rocky Road or Chocolate-Cherry Inara fudge Sundae. Perhaps some Strawberry Cheesecake Kaylee Chunk.

MMM, ice cream.

Love ya'll. See ya on the flip side.

ADD: MSG- Gotta keep that manwhore pimp hand strong. I may need a good bap here and there too.
She may just be target practice for the bappin' hand.

"On a Wednesday
I'm workin' diggin' ditches"

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:31 PM

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Originally posted by nvghostrider:
We need to create a commune for Browncoats out in the woods somewhere. That way we have a place to run in times of need.

I'm telling you, let's all pitch in and buy an island. And we shall call it... This Land.

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:33 PM

Shouldn't it be this Is-land?

HAHAHA.

Okay I'm going home now.

Peace.

"On a Wednesday
I'm workin' diggin' ditches"

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:02 PM

MSG, I didn't say I didn't like the pinning down

...I try to be sure the lady enjoys herself!

NVG, we are with you!

Copilot, you are beautiful! You have nothing to worry about in that regard!

And I like the idea of "This Is-Land"! When do we start?

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:05 PM

First we're going to need an island. So any Browncoats with large sums of money or is a position of power.

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Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:24 PM