Rivers *different* fighting styles in Serenity by ubergeek

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Rivers *different* fighting styles in Serenity

POSTED BY: UBERGEEK
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 05:30
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Monday, August 14, 2006 7:35 PM

So I was watching Serenity for the 3000th time and I noticed a, well defference In the Bar fight seen and the Reaver Fight seen.

Bar Fight Seen: This felt controled, persice, and most of all stoic. No emotion.

Reaver Fight Seen: When she was fighting the reavers It felt very emotional. And it looked "like a dance" very beautiful (while very bloody) very fulid not as percice and trained as in the bar fight seen..

Did any body else see this or did I just see this whilst oogoling at summer? (and if you did, did you think it was intentional? Its been said that summer... er. river

is a creature of extrodinary grace.

thanks and by now!

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Monday, August 14, 2006 7:49 PM

KANEMAN

I think the only differences are the opponent and number of opponents (Drunks Vs Reavers).Also a weapon in her hand. I will agree she showed some passion in the second asswhuppin. I thought she was graceful in both scenes. And I must say I have studied these scenes aplenty.

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Monday, August 14, 2006 7:53 PM

MELONCOV

The bar fight wasn't truly River; it was an Alliance engineered weapon that had been made from River's body.

With the Reavers, it was River herself fighting, with all her emotions and grace.

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Monday, August 14, 2006 7:59 PM

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

I like that explanation.

End of line.

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Monday, August 14, 2006 8:16 PM

RCAT

Quote:
Originally posted by Meloncov:
The bar fight wasn't truly River; it was an Alliance engineered weapon that had been made from River's body.

With the Reavers, it was River herself fighting, with all her emotions and grace.

My thoughts exactly.

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Monday, August 14, 2006 9:26 PM

NOSADSEVEN

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Originally posted by ubergeek:
Did any body else see this or did I just see this whilst oogoling at summer?

Well, the author of this article from the Journal of Theatrical Combatives saw it, and more:

"The Brute, the Brawler, and the Ballerina: Fighting Styles and Character Development in Firefly and Serenity"
http://ejmas.com/jtc/2006jtc/jtcart_couch_0706.html

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:47 AM

XEYRA

Indeed, everyone else has pretty much said it.

The Maidenhead fight was something she was triggered to do. It was the Weapon, and not the girl, a distinction Mal himself makes (and in a deleted scene, he says to the Sheperd that it wasn't River that did it, but the Alliance). She is controlled, methodical and emotionless because it's not her but her programming. Whether or not she knew what she was doing and what was happening is subject to debate, but she was triggered into weapon-mode on that bar.

The Reaver fight was different, because she entered it consciously, and it was her that fought in there, not a programmed weapon. She did it because she wanted to protect her brother, her family, and she willingly threw herself out there and she fought them with everything she had, including that extraordinary grace of hers. And it was a beautiful fight.

"People tell you things all the time, without talking. The way they move, the way they aren't talking." - River Tam

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 5:26 AM

TALYNDERRE

That article was truly outstanding. Heck, their introductory description of Jayne was well worth price of admission all by itself. Thanks for sharing it with us.

Semper Paratus, mac.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006 5:30 AM

CAUSAL

I'll have to go back and look at the fight scenes more carefully. I know that there were a number of Krav Maga techniques used in the choreography--when you choreograph Krav Maga it looks very nice. Of course, when you do it for real it still looks like shit (but very effective shit).

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