A 3D serenity model I've been working on by biotech

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A 3D serenity model I've been working on

POSTED BY: BIOTECH
UPDATED: Thursday, April 29, 2004 09:45
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Saturday, July 19, 2003 12:54 AM

The back end is too big, the engines too small, and it doesnt have a cockpit yet, but considering I have no blueprints to work from, its not too bad.

http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=449105&Start=1&Artist=b
iotech&ByArtist=Yes

Anyway let me know what you think.

I noticed there were some other people going to build the ship, did they ever get round to it?

Rich

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Saturday, July 19, 2003 7:23 AM

I see we cant use img tags here.

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Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:26 AM

*VERY* nice.

Sorry I hadn't replied sooner, but I'd been somewhat busy.

I really liked your use of textures to emulate the outer panels.
How did you add the lights? Was that in post?

Oh, and what program did you use? MAX? LW?
I'm a trueSpace user ( http://www.caligari.com) myself.

I look forward to seeing more of it in the future!

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Kaylee, will you marry me?

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Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:31 AM

I use Max, the lights are small spheres of self illuminating colour, I then apply a glow to them using the lens effect function, theres no post work in the image.

I am hoping to have it more or less finished by tommorow.

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Sunday, July 20, 2003 12:21 AM

Ok all done, it didnt turn out as well as I had hoped.

What I wouldnt do for a set of proper blueprints!

http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=450264&Start=1&Artist=b
iotech&ByArtist=Yes

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Sunday, July 20, 2003 2:14 AM

I don't know if you can do this in Max, I do know it is a feature in the early editions of Lightwave.

Take a frame grab, or other picture, of Serenity from the show, and use it as a background image in the modeling program. Then you can trace around it to get the features right.

The nose looks a bit wide, but maybe it just looks that way to me. Even if it ain't exactly right, you got a damn good looking ship.

"my kind of stupid"

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Sunday, July 20, 2003 2:22 AM

Yes you can do that, trouble is there arent any good picture that are side on, or front on.

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Sunday, July 20, 2003 2:31 AM

You don't have to be side on, or head on. The picture does not need to be one of the plan views. It will require oreinting your model appropriately however.

Again, my lightwave knowledge is not up to date. But it has 4 modeling windows. The normal 3 you would expect, and a forth that let you set up the camera, tilt the object you were playing with. You could set up background image in this 4th window, and use the other three to manipulate the points in the mesh.

And then if you look at the Zoic Studios thread, in their picture, there is the top view of Serenity. :)

Its at
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=2292

"my kind of stupid"

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Sunday, July 20, 2003 3:01 AM

This is about as close as I could get to a side "head shot", and it's from this site:

Hope it helps.

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Kaylee, will you marry me?

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Sunday, July 20, 2003 3:03 AM

Already got that one thanks, and the top down view.

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Sunday, July 27, 2003 9:30 PM

MIght want to check this thread!
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=5&t=2340
:-)

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Sunday, July 27, 2003 9:41 PM

Wow those pictures are amazine, shows my model up, at least the next one has a chance of being more accurate.

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Tuesday, January 6, 2004 11:30 AM

Very nice work - any chance you might be willing to share this model? I am doing a Firefly Fan Film and looking for some 3d modeling help, and a serenity model would be the first big step!

Drop me an email or im, or whatever. Let me know. Thanks.

www.fof-films.com
malessandro@fof-films.com
Firefly Fan Film - Coming SOON

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Tuesday, January 6, 2004 4:00 PM

DIGITALOUTBREAK

Looks absolutly fantastic, just a minor issue though, on the cockpit, your solar panel is on the wrong side ;)

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Thursday, January 8, 2004 4:25 AM

You are welcome to a copy of the model, but like I said its not very accurate, I was working on a more accurate model but I never got it finished.

I'll work out how big a file it will be and get in touch with you.

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Thursday, January 8, 2004 5:23 AM

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Very cool looking Biotech.

I have been kicking around the idea of sculpting a model of Serenity. I have sculpted some in the past, but I am hesitant to do it as I am not sure that I could do her justice.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Thursday, January 8, 2004 6:17 AM

Thanks for the new responses, I guess when something like this gets bumped back up its seen by a bunch of people that never saw it first time round.

Here is another shot of the version 1 serenity.

http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=456314&Start=1&Artist=b
iotech&ByArtist=Yes

And a hint of version 2.

http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=462720&Start=1&Artist=b
iotech&ByArtist=Yes

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Thursday, January 8, 2004 6:33 AM

Plus a brand new render.

http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=576237&Start=1&Artist=b
iotech&ByArtist=Yes

Just for you guys.

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Thursday, January 8, 2004 7:06 AM

Those are looking awesome, Biotech! Keep up the good work!

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

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Thursday, January 8, 2004 4:26 PM

Biotech -

Looking shiny! The new render is really nice, the textures are fantastic. I appreciate the offer to let me use, I think it will be great!

IM me or drop me an email. thanks so much!

www.fof-films.com
malessandro@fof-films.com
Firefly Fan Film - Coming SOON

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Thursday, January 8, 2004 4:56 PM

That's pretty shiny!

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"Freedom is the Freedom to say that 2+2 makes 4. If that is granted, all else follws"-Winston, 1984
Keep flyin', and remember, THEY can't take the sky from US!

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Friday, January 9, 2004 6:19 AM

Thanks everyone!

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Friday, January 9, 2004 11:24 AM

Biotech, thanks for the model! I can't wait to do a test animation. I will post a link when I have it ready so everyone can take a peak.

www.fof-films.com
Firefly Fan Film - Coming SOON

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Saturday, January 10, 2004 3:33 AM

I look forward to seeing it!

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Saturday, January 10, 2004 7:27 AM

Biotech!

I got your zip file but it contained textures only! Guess I should look at stuff before posting... Silly me... Anyway, don't know if it was a problem on my end or oversite or what, but if you have a moment to try zipping the model over to me again it would be most appreciated!

Thanks

www.fof-films.com
Firefly Fan Film - Coming SOON

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Saturday, January 10, 2004 9:41 AM

Ok, sorry about that, when I was ziping up the model it gave me the option to add to firefly.zip, which I had alreaedy created for the textures, but instead all it did was create a new firefly.zip in a different directory.

I should have checked it before I sent it, but its winging its way towards you now via the magic of email!

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Saturday, January 10, 2004 2:01 PM

Got it! Awesome. Now... Now I say, when I have a test animation, which I will be burning midnight oil on for the next several midnights I am sure, I will post a link here and in my blog on this site.

Biotech - I shall name my first born after thee... Provided that by first born, I mean goldfish, and by goldfish I mean crackers... I am eating little biotech right now... Mmmmm... Biotechie goodness....

www.fof-films.com
Firefly Fan Film - Coming SOON

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Saturday, January 10, 2004 2:04 PM

lol

Whats the specs of your pc?

Did all the textures apply to the model ok?

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Saturday, January 10, 2004 5:07 PM

My PC is a 2ghz amd, 512 ram, 300gig raid array hard drive plus some fun extras

I'm still getting the hang of 3ds max, I'm a novice with the 3d programs other than poser.

I haven't been able to apply all the textures yet, but I believe that is probably my own niavety.

Now I just need to get a decent export in .3ds form so I can bring into my other programs, so far I keep messing up the ship, which looks great in max!

I will dilegently try to figure this all out. I appreciate your help.

www.fof-films.com
Firefly Fan Film - Coming SOON

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Saturday, January 10, 2004 5:13 PM

If you extract all your textures to a folder you know the name of, you should be able to direct max to the folder once, and it should remember it from then on.

I use poser too, its a cool program.

You might want to limit the resolution if you are doing an animation, 640x480 is probably good enough for transfering to video, and will be still good enough to see online.

I just pop it up to 1024x728 for single frames, as thats my resolution on my desktop, so now and again I make an image good enough to be my background picture.

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Saturday, January 10, 2004 6:00 PM

I finally got it all to import to 3ds max, she's really a beauty!

Now I just have to get a good export so I can animate her in poser.

I just am not good at 3ds max yet, so not really able to animate in her yet.

So far I keep getting a very ugly 3ds model when I export, practically turing poor serenity inside out.

Hopefully I will be able to get a solid model in 3ds form so I can import it into poser.

Otherwise I'm goign to actually have to force myself to learn 3ds in a hurry!

Thanks for all your help Biotech, really nice work.

www.fof-films.com
Firefly Fan Film - Coming SOON

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Saturday, January 10, 2004 6:04 PM

You can import a poser animation into Max in 3ds format, it will be easier to retexture your poser figure, as the map coordinates stay the same, than it will be to get serenity into poser.

But its 4 in the morning here, so I am off to bed belatedly, I'll help you some more tommorow if you need it.

In the mean time, you could always look at the forums in renderosity for advice on how to export from poser to max and visa versa, look in the forums.

Renderosity is where the big images are hosted I posted earlier.

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Sunday, January 11, 2004 10:44 AM

Yeah, it's more my inability to animate in 3ds max as of yet, just not comfoprtable with the program, so I've been trying a few conversion programs to change the 3ds file to an obj that I can import into poser, since I am a whiz animating there.

But I am endeavoring to learn max so I can animate within that program anyway. So we'll see.

I'm hoping.

The model ois really, really nice. Great textures, she's going to be fantastic for the flik. I really appreciate it.

www.fof-films.com
Firefly Fan Film - Coming SOON

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Sunday, January 11, 2004 5:24 PM

So here I am again - but this time with good news! I've got a brilliant obj version of serenity from your model, she is flying high in poser as we speak.

Only one issue came up, the model is looking for these textures:

top.jpg
plateox2.jpg
fx3_panels_9f.jpg

And I seem to have a few extra textures, roof.jpg and such.

Are any of them what I should be redirecting the model to look for?

Sorry to be such a bother, you've already been a tremendous help.

I should have a nice animation to post soon.

www.fof-films.com
Firefly Fan Film - Coming SOON

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Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:45 AM

plateox2.jpg & fx3_panels_9f.jpg are both standard textures that come with max, I am surprised top wasnt included, but I can send you it again at the weekend, as I'm not home now.

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Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:06 AM

Yeah, I'm a goob, I found those two jpgs, I also started doing a rework of the textures based on the high quality images I found on the site that Draken posted from all angles, turning out very nice. I'm rendering my first test animation with the firefly effect and engine trails as we speak, I may be able to post it by tomorrow if it turns out.

Thanks.

www.fof-films.com
Firefly Fan Film - Coming SOON

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Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:13 AM

i DO aim to misbehave

Hey, that's a bit of all right!

Firefly Artwork Series
http://www.mnartists.org/artistHome.do?rid=7922

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Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:01 AM

Thanks.

The version 2 serenity I am making uses the textures posted here.

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Saturday, January 24, 2004 3:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by foffilms:
I may be able to post it by tomorrow if it turns out.

So did you ever make that animation?

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Saturday, January 24, 2004 3:59 PM

Check out my Blogs - I have links posted in there, but here they are as well - let me know what you think. Some more work to be done smoothing it all out, and getting the "firefly" effect proper.

I am also trying to animate the engine circular ring.

Your model is awesome, I retextured it and think it turned out pretty sweet.
Here are the links

www.fof-films.com/EasterEggs/fireflycomp1_Broadband.mov

http://fof-films.com/EasterEggs/fireflyrender

http://fof-films.com/EasterEggs/fireflytest1_Broadband.mov

Thanks again!

www.fof-films.com
Firefly Fan Film - Coming SOON

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Saturday, January 24, 2004 4:24 PM

All I can say is wow. All you need now is a CGI cast and you start making your own episodes.

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Saturday, January 24, 2004 4:38 PM

You are very kind - but we're actually looking for a live action cast! We're going to shoot a green screen series and use cgi backgrounds etc...

But thank you, we're working on it - FIREFLY will live!

www.fof-films.com
Firefly Fan Film - Coming SOON

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Saturday, January 24, 2004 5:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by foffilms:
You are very kind - but we're actually looking for a live action cast!

I am so intrigued! I would do weight training and get plastic surgery to play Jayne.

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Saturday, January 24, 2004 5:10 PM

Actually Saint Jayne it's going to be a different crew on a different firefly vessel set in the verse Joss created.

Check out my blogs for some details.

It should be a fun show. I'm excited to start shooting, we're about ready to cast for the pilot episode.

Anyone in the San Francisco bay area wanting to be involved drop me a line!

www.fof-films.com
Firefly Fan Film - Coming SOON

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Saturday, January 24, 2004 6:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by foffilms:
Actually Saint Jayne it's going to be a different crew on a different firefly vessel set in the verse Joss created.

Oh, I know, I've read your logs - very exciting stuff. Say, you never did fully explain the "Orpheus" thing. You worried about it sounding too much like "Morpheus" (when I would have been worrying about "orifice").

Of course you know that he failed in saving his wife and wound up with his head floating downstream, singing the Firefly themesong. This type of ending is not unusual for Greek mythology.

My mad h4X0r skillz pale in comparison to yours, but if I can offer my services in any mundane respect, I am your willing servant. I do Web apps and Flash.

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Saturday, January 24, 2004 6:25 PM

Okay, so the theme of my series is "never look back" hence Orpheus, the crew is of course motley and they all have aspects of their lives they wish to move away from but it's so hard not to look back at who you were so they seem to stumble a bit.

Our "Captain" who won't let people actually address him as such because of a shady military history during the war... Jonah is now a gambler and hustler who has the good heart but seemingly poor judgement.

His "hired gun" is Sam, she is basically what I imagine the baby from the "3 Godfathers" would grow up to be if the three outlaws raised the child in the best way they could.

We have the pilot "Whip" who is a former smuggler, come out of her family business she is now a acer pilot.

Cho is the formally schooled engineer who is brought aboard to keep the ships mechanics running, he is highly regarded and his family hopes sort of rested on him making somethign of himself, but he doesn;t have the strength or courage to face disappointment... yet.

Gus is the ship's Doc who only the "Captain" knows was a horse doc before coming aboard. He's the "cap's" confidant and bartender.

That's a tease of most of the regular characters...

Anyway... More animations and images to come. I am nearly finished with the 3d model of our cargo bay set.

www.fof-films.com
Firefly Fan Film - Coming SOON

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Sunday, January 25, 2004 12:12 AM

Nice animations, this ship looks quite glossy, or should I say shiny?

In the stand alone render though the engine outtakes appear to be in the middle of the nacelles for some reason, although they look ok in the animations.

I look forward to seeing your cargo bay, and good look getting the ring to rotate!

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:55 PM

Hi BIOTECH,

Is there any chance I could "borrow" your model of serenity for a project I am working on?

I know my way round a few 3D packages - but I can't model to save my life!

you can get me here jc@havendesign.freeuk.com if thats ok ?

Thanks in advance

Jason

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Friday, April 23, 2004 12:53 AM

Maybe I could just try and get this site to host it so that anyone that wanted it could download it.

Is that feasable admins?

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Sunday, April 25, 2004 11:00 PM

Shiny idea ;-)

I am working on a website at the moment if you want to host it there?

I should have a basic page in the next two days, it will be to host our new graphic novel and any fan fiction

J

There's crime to be done.....

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