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Male and Female Imponderables- Life could be a dream

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 4:30 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by Whitefall:
Here's an imponderable, tho i know i've covered it before. Something I wrote in those notes about a (different) friend of mine, past few days she's been wearing spaghetti straps, and gosh darns it, it bugs me. I wrote that in my notes, this feminism paradox, that of course ya all have the right to wear whatever the hell you want, but on the flipside, I don't want to let the pervertedness of my mind distract me from my friend, so... argh. Stupid imponderable paradoxes and stupid males.

Eh, men are pigs, avoid them alltogether.




Okay whitefall, repeat after me. "Men are not pigs. Men are just as wonderful and complex as any woman."

You've got a very enlightened attitude toward women, for the most part. But by golly, you need to lighten up on your gender.

As for spaghetti straps, etc. Not really seeing the issue there. If YOU have a problem objectifying her, that's your issue, not her's or an issue for feminism. And sometimes, we want to be "objectified." We want to turn men on. And there is nothing wrong with that. What is wrong is when that is all we are...a body for men to play with.

Listen to what the women on here are saying. We objectify, too. Mal's eyes, Jayne's arms, Simon's chest (good god that boy works out). It's just we usually give as much credence to the character behind the body. There is nothing wrong with appreciatin' and responding to someone's physical aspect. It's only a problem when that is all they are to you. So if your friend is looking good in her spaghetti straps, enjoy it, just don't make that all she is to you. End lecture.

Magda, I can appreciate Jayne for the "take me now, I have no choice" quality he has. I'd just rather it be Mal. The quiet leadership he brings is SOOOOO sexy. He could tell me what to do all day long and I'd be happy to oblige.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 4:44 AM

MSG


Rugbug- you just want Mal to tell you to get in his bunk :) HUGS I agree wholeheartedly with your advice to Whitehall...hey why the smack do you think we wear those tops and all...same reason you guys work out...to attract notice for our physical form. Next time she's wearing a particularly pleasing outfit...say something " you look amazing" is always nice. Just remember she might be wearing it to get more than friendship from you so pay attention. There is just nothing more annoying than working really hard to look good to catch a guys eye only to have him think you're trying ot be friends.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 4:53 AM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
I'd just rather it be Mal. The quiet leadership he brings is SOOOOO sexy. He could tell me what to do all day long and I'd be happy to oblige.



Just stopping in briefly to say I sooo agree.

BTW - my crush on Nathan didn't happen until I heard he was a comic book geek and a nice boy to his momma and all the other fun stories about him. Hot is nice, but hot with a personality makes my knees weak.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 5:23 AM

ZEEK


magdelina, men can absolutely just be friends with women. Mainly because I have plenty of female friends that I wouldn't go for if I got a green light as big as a spotlight shinning right in my face. I feel no romantic feelings for them at all, but think the world of them as friends. So, it's possible.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 5:28 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
I feel no romantic feelings for them at all, but think the world of them as friends. So, it's possible.



But how do they feel about you?

I think sex gets in the way, on one side or the other, occassionally. Doesn't usually happen on both sides at the same time, but it comes and goes and can lead to some interesting times. 'Specially those drunken times that Madge mentions.



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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 5:38 AM

MSG


Zeek- I agree I have some male friends that I'd have to have a lobotomy to even consider...I love them dearly, but not that way.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 5:45 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Yes - you have restored my faith in the male/female quest for friendship - it's just my experience that got skewed...

- Magdalena x x


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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 5:47 AM

PENGUIN


Quote:

Originally posted by magdalena:
Yeah - I so know what you mean about the 'DD' cup MsG!








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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 5:49 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:

But how do they feel about you?


I think we're fine on that front too. Since we talk about who we have the hots for and relationship stuff all the time. Which would be all awkward if one of us really wanted the other to be talking about them.

Then again what do I know. Maybe they all want to jump my bones. And really how could I blame them?

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 5:54 AM

MSG


Zeek- Hate to break it to you, but I know tons of women that have a thing for "friend" and they sit and listen and discuss other crushes and inside they plot and scheme ( in a good way) to befriend the guy and find out what gets him and wait until the day comes when he "notices" them...do you not see any sappy hollywood movies?? That's pretty much the plot of about 25% of them:)

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 5:57 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


OK Penguin... breathe... just breathe...

LOL!! - you're the sweetest!

Well - good night everyone - time for this 'godess' to go to bed...

Loved imponderin' tonight! - Love, Magda x x


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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:15 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Good Morning, (or good night to some)!

Sorry I missed you Mags. Sleep well and thanks for the encouraging messages.

I seen some where (Rugbugs post) something about objectification of female friends due to their choice of attire. One thing I noticed is that when women get too comfortable having a guy around, some become complacent about keeping things "undercover". Males are very visual. Having been there all I can say is "Damn". Sex does get in the way. We men should have more contol over our thoughts and urges, but we also shouldn't be made to feel guilty for what comes natural. Ms. Incredible? is my favorite example. Sure I noticed her form the first day (self defense class. She was wearing form fitting jeans and a red lowcut top.) But being professional I put those feelings aside and finished the class. As I worked with her it seemed the mental attraction got me first. But there was always the underlying physical attraction that I simply put away. Suppression of such things really plays with your head. But the way I see it is that when I (Heaven forbid) start dating and "that" moment comes, those feelings will be reserved only for that woman.

Okay. Long post to get started. Just thought I'd give some input. We aren't complete pigs. Most of the time.

COFFEE TIME!


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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:16 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Zeek- Hate to break it to you, but I know tons of women that have a thing for "friend" and they sit and listen and discuss other crushes and inside they plot and scheme ( in a good way) to befriend the guy and find out what gets him and wait until the day comes when he "notices" them...do you not see any sappy hollywood movies?? That's pretty much the plot of about 25% of them:)


Yeah but those people are also incredibly hot and in relationships with jerks. Somehow that doesn't seem to be the plot of my life.

Either way I'm not too worried about it. I couldn't see these girls having a crush on me. Just based on who they do actually date. Those guys are nothing like me.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:46 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Hola, everyone.

I was reading some of the posts about what makes a person attractive, and came up with an imponderable. It may have been covered already, so bear with me.

Could you date someone that has different political leanings than you do? Even if everything else worked out, would that get in the way? I think I'd be able to give it a shot, but there would definitely be some turbulence, I think.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:03 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by deepgirl187:
Could you date someone that has different political leanings than you do? Even if everything else worked out, would that get in the way? I think I'd be able to give it a shot, but there would definitely be some turbulence, I think.




I don't think I would have a problem with that. I'm not really interested in politics, so it's not a huge issue for me. What the person would need is the ability to discuss issues respetfully. See, I basically believe both parties want similar things, they just go about it in VERY different ways. The ways are what is divisive....

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:07 AM

TRISTAN


Afternoon, all.
Things are well, but we are once again short-handed, so I am riding the front desk...which means I can't play as much. I know I'm going to miss alot, so I'll jump back in when I can.

PR, thanks for the shout. All is well on the domestic front. She's trying to find somewhere to live post-haste. I think things will go much smoother if she was not under the same roof as I...lust is still a problem.

MSG, I apologize for this thought, but the evil portion of my mind took the statement "boobs suck" and turned it into something bad...please forgive me?

Sex, oy! At the moment, I don't really want to think about that...

Alright, back to the damn desk...see you all when I can! I love everyone of you.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:24 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Zeek- I agree I have some male friends that I'd have to have a lobotomy to even consider...I love them dearly, but not that way.

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2





I have some REALLLY good looking male friends. You know the perfect type. Intelligent, good looking, kind - blah blah blah - and it would be like dating a brother. YECH!


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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:36 AM

MSG


Night Magda...sleep well:)
Wish I was going to sleep ( also wish I could have margaritas with my husband this weekend, but with the baby attempting...sigh:)
NV- pretty sure Ms.Whatever meant for the attention to be drawn:) I figure it's like art. MisterG and I have a look all you want, don't touch policy that seems sensible. It's justa quick appreciation/involuntary tug of attraction no harm no foul
Tristan- it's fine:) Stray thoughts happen...It doesn't offend or worry me one little bit HUGS

FMF- LOL:)
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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:05 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
( also wish I could have margaritas with my husband this weekend, but with the baby attempting...sigh:)




Well, I hope I don't get the PC police on my back, but I'm sure you'd be fine if you had some margaritas this weekend. Most women don't know they are pregnant for a few weeks so I'm sure alcohol is imbibed regularly by those who are newly pregnant.

And what bout all those pregnancies that are the result of too much alcohol and the inevitable lack of attention to birth control? Eh? Drinking some margaritas may help you get knocked up.

For generations woman have done just fine without all the super healthy guidelines we have now. How many of us (those in my age range) were born to chain smokers who, horror of all horrors, didn't breast feed us? I didn't end up small or abnormal...well, not really abnormal. i'm gonna stop now 'cause I feel a rant comin' on and you probably don't want to hear it.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:12 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Just the reason I have no desire for strip clubs. I hate games. I have no need for an attractive woman to get and hold my attention whilst I dole out the cash. If only there were a place nearby that folks just go to hang out, listen to music, watch movies, discuss any number of subjects, maybe play some sports.
Wait a minute. There is. Unfortunately they are Mormon churches. Don't really feel the need to go there.
Lost for words.

Oh, FMF, I agree. But occasionally things happen. Can't say that I never wanted to be with some of my female friends. But with alot of the problems they have I'm kinda glad they're someone elses problem.


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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:14 AM

MSG


NV- Maybe you could start an anti-family home evening with beer and sandwiches and rated R movies and all....it could catch on:) 'Course you'd have to find a place to host it and all, but I has possibilities:) I may have to do that myself.

Rugbug- being as how I'm in the over 30 catagory, I'm trying to limit my risk factors, but I hear you on that. I'm majorly careful about alcohol because I have dealt with the fetal alcohol results too many times,but I am eating fish ( they say you shouldn't for fear of mercury) and such like. I think there is such a thing as too careful. I swear the reason we have all these scary antibiotic resistant germs is all the anti-bacterial soap etc...

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:35 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by deepgirl187:
Could you date someone that has different political leanings than you do? Even if everything else worked out, would that get in the way? I think I'd be able to give it a shot, but there would definitely be some turbulence, I think.


Nope probably not. Cause my political views are "politicians are all idiots and there's no sense in wasting my time on them". If someone else felt strongly that every political hoopla was the subject of much concentration and discussion, I don't think I'd be able to put up with it. There's only so much BS I can tolerate listening to before I flip out.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:36 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I really learned alot from one of the state contract providers. She teaches one of the few FAS/FAE college courses in the country. You're fine drinking before conception. Any problems occur when the fetus is developing. The physical defects are usually an indicator of the developmental stage the child was in during the mothers usage.
Have those margarita's now because later you won't get the chance.

So I'm sitting at my desk. Just ate vegtable stirfy on rice and corn bread with honey for dessert. Got to thinkin': Man it'd be nice to have someone steal me for lunch sometime. The whole time I've worked here, I never got that. Not alot of spontenaity in my life. It sucks. Think I'll use my lunch money to go to lunch this week.
Crap. So much for being spontaneous.

ADD: Here is a quick link to info on Susan Doctor.

http://www.come-over.to/FAS/SusanDoctorIntervention.htm

I've met her on several occasions and has helped with info on finding someone to assess BabyV.


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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:16 AM

MSG


Good to know NV:)...I'd steal you for lunch if I could darlin:) hmmmm wonder if my principal would let me take a day off to drive to Nevada?

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:21 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Here's an idea.

FIELD TRIP!!!

That would definately be the bus ride from hell.
Good thing most of us are already Forsaken.


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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:33 AM

JPSTARGAZER


As far as politics, I think it would be fine to date someone with different political views. It makes for interesting conversation as long as it is a respectful discussion and not an argument. I don't know if it would work if she was ridiculously liberal or very very conservative, but anywhere between would be welcomed.

I know I'm late with this, but I've had two close female friends. I say have, since when I gained the current one, I lost the other...don't ask me why, I couldn't tell you. Anyways, I hang out with her as much as my guy friends and I'm not trying to date her. Granted, it's tough as a guy to spend a lot of time with a great girl, really get to know her, and not think about dating, but it's not impossible. You women do these really cute things (and stupid things sometimes) that can make it a challange, but I think some female friendships are definitely worth the effort.



"All I got is a red guitar, three chords, and the truth...the rest is up to you"
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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:42 AM

JPSTARGAZER


Now that I think about it, here's the real question. Keep in mind this is hypothetical (don't think she visits this site, but who knows, I'm mid-conversion with her) but if I found out a female friend had feelings for me, would I give it a try? In the words of Bono, could I "take a chance on losing love to find romance?"

I'm sure someone has tried the ladder jump (friend ladder to date-able ladder for those unfamiliar with the term) or thought about it and would like to comment...



"All I got is a red guitar, three chords, and the truth...the rest is up to you"
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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:45 AM

MSG


Thanks JP ( I think) I personally think guys are more fun to be friends with and there's less stuff to deal with, plus most guys aren't easily offended so that's nice, but some women ( like the ones here)are fabulous!!

NV- see ROAD TRIP!!!! we so have to do a get together:) A big ole imponderables get together.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:49 AM

MSG


JP- My husband and I were friends in college..I secretly had a crush on him and he actually liked me but thought I wasn't interested ( apparently asking him to go on a trip and share a room with me was too subtle) and he later asked me out ( well so he says) I say I gave him my phone number and made him ask me.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:05 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I've been told guys can't ladder jump whereas women own the ladder. F the ladder. Burn it down and piss on the ashes. Friends make the best lovers. But lovers rarely make the best friends.
Pull a 13 and just do it.

And yes MSG. Road trip sounda fun. The Hot Rod Power Tour would cruise the country, attend car shows along the way, go to various shindigs, and gain cruisers along the way. I can't imagine being able to do that with Browncoats. But I'd give it a try.


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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:05 AM

JPSTARGAZER


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
JP- My husband and I were friends in college..I secretly had a crush on him and he actually liked me but thought I wasn't interested ( apparently asking him to go on a trip and share a room with me was too subtle) and he later asked me out ( well so he says) I say I gave him my phone number and made him ask me.



Ha, that's funny...glad it worked out despite the minor discrepency in the history.



"All I got is a red guitar, three chords, and the truth...the rest is up to you"
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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:11 AM

MSG


NV- I see no reason why it wouldn't work. I think it'd be fun:) I can just see us all now, state to state, Me in a camper driven by MisterG cooking madly as we all caravan along happily watching Firefly and Serenity and stopping along the way picking up all the browncoats until we arrive at the other side, dirty and worn, but happy:)

JP- yeah it worked out great for us:)


Well off to the gym and tutoring now. I'll try and pop in a bit later to say goodnight, but big hugs to all I miss:)
I choose to rise instead of fall- U2



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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 12:06 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Forgot y'all are an hour ahead of us. Like the idea. May need to give it a spin sometime. I love driving. And I love food. 'Night MSG. Catch ya later.




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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 12:07 PM

JAMESTHEDARK


Politics: I could go out with anyone, so long as they aren't an ultra-right wing fundamentalist Christian. Just about anybody else would be "Go-Outable". I probably wouldn't stick around long with the ultra-vegan hippie types, but they'd be a lot of fun for a little while.
Understand, that I could be classified as a conservative, but what the people in the conservative side that are most vocal scare the ever-living hell out of me. I made my family promise that if I ever start spewing forth that fundamentalist crap they would shoot me.

You know, I might be more of a centralist. I used to be a liberal, but as I grew hardened and disallusioned, I just became more and more conservative, and yet still, those people (Pat Roberston, for a horrifyingly apt example) just frighten me. I get a feeling like they're going to tie me to the rack and crank me until I renounce Satan. Ironic, because I get along fine with the Satanists I know. They're decent enough people, despite being, you know... Satanists.

Oh, and Rose: Just to torment you further, I am a white man with a black-man's lips. My mouth is wide (Which is why I can't grow a proper goatee) and my lips are full and meaty. It's part of why I looked twelve until I started growing my beard.

It's a real pain in the ass that we're on far sides of the border, ain't it?

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:58 PM

MISTERG


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
OK we were pondering the differences in what constitutes " attractive"... So folks, what do you find physically attractive?



Eyes, smile, and nice thighs and butt (HEHE). Short. And 'healthy' :) Those are the physical.

Sense of humor, like to laugh, and interest in sci-fi programs for the other.

So, basicaly you baby :D

Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.

Translation: I have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.


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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:04 PM

MISTERG


As for the whole asking out thing..

Basicaly I finaly worked the guts up while I was at her work to ask her out. As I was JUST about to ask her, she came up and gave me her phone number :)

So we're both right. hehe


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Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.

Translation: I have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.


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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:07 PM

PENGUIN


Quote:

Originally posted by MisterG:
Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
OK we were pondering the differences in what constitutes " attractive"... So folks, what do you find physically attractive?



Eyes, smile, and nice thighs and butt (HEHE). Short. And 'healthy' :) Those are the physical.

Sense of humor, like to laugh, and interest in sci-fi programs for the other.

So, basicaly you baby :D



Ok...what did you do wrong now??


King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:53 PM

COPILOT


So here is my question. I've been thinking about attempting to date someone now that I'm finally single. However I live with my best friend and soul mate since forever. We're also loveers. There is absolutely nothing romantic or passionate in our friendship. Should I tell people the exsisnt of our relationship or keep it to myself?
~Love~Copilot~

An I carried such a torch

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 4:55 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Right - back into the fray! Hi everyone!

MsG/MisterG - LOL!! I love you two and love your interaction - it just enriches the Imponderers so much!
...and just to put my 5c worth in - a friend of mine who went through years of trying before having a baby said it was more important to give up coffee - apparently caffeine is worse than alcohol when it comes to trying to conceive!

NVG - you're welcome - sorry I keep missing you - we seem to be in opposite time zones! still thinking of you - let me know how it went!

Tristan - we miss you on the imponderables - but it is good that you've managed to pop in every now and again! Take care Sweet One!

OK - opposing political views - I don't think it's the views that matter so much as the way people 'brandish' them - I have close friends who have completely opposing views of politics to me - but we just smile and agree to disagree, mind you I am pretty easy going and respect other people's different perspectives... If someone tries to tell me what to think or do or doesn't respect my POV then I would have a problem - it's all in the attitude!

Religion shouldn't be an issue either - although that's a different ball game - I am passionate about my faith and I could see myself being with someone who had a different faith or none-at-all or simply wasn't passionate about the same faith as I am, but I do not shove my faith down people's throats (in case you didn't notice)! A lot of who I am comes from my faith base - but it isn't the sum total of who I am (in case some of the more intimate discussions here and elsewhere haven't clued you in)! But it would be a problem if I were to, say, contemplate marrying someone with a very different faith who wanted 'our children' to be raised in their faith - that would be a deal breaker I'm afraid...

I have done the friends - romantics jump more than once and actually regret not doing it more often! In my 20s there were a couple of wonderful men-friends who I adored but never let them know 'coz I didn't want to 'risk the friendship' - now that I look back none of them is in my life anymore - we just drifted, and I think I was crazy not to seize the moment for fear of losing someting I ain't got no longer... (sorry - did I just channel Zoe?)

I also have had 2 lovely romantic relationships that started with friendship and have had one long-term relationship that ended badly and the thing that I resented most about that (apart from the whole lust-but-no-action-aspect - I understand Tristan) was that 'our friends' whom we'd been around before dating remained his friends coz his sister and best friend were firmly entrenched in the group! It took a long time for us to be friends again - he did a lot of damage, but we're OK now!

Copilot - you call that single? - you live with your soulmate and best friend and you're lovers...? I'd call that damn lucky!! *takes Copilot's shoulders and gives them a squeeze - continues more gently* I'd give my eye teeth to have a SO that fitted that description - do you need to assess your current relationship? If you are looking to date then I think the 'lovers' thing needs to end - that is kind of not right? OK - that sounds puritanical but I am actually coming at this, not as a Christian (though there's that too) but from the POV of mental health for you, potential new date, bestfiend and the emotional damage you might do to all of the above! *gives Copilot a hug*

OK - end of ramble - I've been doing a lot of that, haven't I? lots on my mind I think!

Love you all! - Magda x x x



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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 10:14 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


'Morning all!
No, I don't think I could be with someone who had drasicly different political leanings. My 'political leanings' are based on my basic beliefs and priorities. Not to say no one is allowed to have different priorities, but there is no end to friction when they do. I'm that way with spiritual life, too. They both reflect something about a person.
I think there are antibiotic-resistant bacteria because we have so many antibiotics. Anti-bacterial soap is just soap (shhhhh, it's a secret ) But I do think it's good to be careful. Babies are vulnerable, and so too can be the mothers. But come on, fish are good for you! Well, clean fish...
Ladder jumping... Ok, horrible-sounding confession coming; if I really like someone, I tend to have some attraction to them. Not every single time, but most times. *sigh* Basically I have yet to have a male friend that I didn't either drift away from or turn into a failed romance A lot of my female friends have drifted away, too. But I have two great ones right now that don't have (much) romantically tangled thoughts attached to them. I'm proud of myself.

*mind stumbles over description of James-lips*
You know I have considered moving to Canada...

I always figured it might be too cold up there for me.

What were we talking about?

for Tristan; we miss you darlin!
I'm not sure I understood the question, copilot. You're friends and lovers and soul mates but there's no passion and should you tell people? Uh, I dunno. Do you want to?

Photobucket is down. Sad me

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:18 AM

JAMESTHEDARK


Canada's not all cold...
Just mostly, and especially during the winter. It gets as low as -40 with the wind chill sometimes (and those are the days the heating doesn't work. Bugger...)

I just find it kind of odd that you're looking for woman's lips on a man's face. Not bad, just a little odd.




:EDIT: I was looking for a Mick Jagger smilie, but that'll have to do.
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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:22 AM

PENGUIN


For my dear Magdalena...






King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:07 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Thank you wonderful Penguin! You are the shiniest and have made my day yet again!!!!!!

Mwaah love you! Magda x x x


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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:08 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by JamesTheDark:
I just find it kind of odd that you're looking for woman's lips on a man's face. Not bad, just a little odd.


Must be the bi in me

I have to say that Mick Jagger is a full-lipped man who never appealed to me. I guess there's an exception to every rule. Might just be the semi-odd way he carries himself.

*edit* Look, I posted at the same time as mags again!
You should look through my emotes again; I've got a red version of the little running man! Isn't Penguin the coolest?

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:17 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Squee!! I love that!!! I did notice him but I think I didn't realise the significance... Now I get it - I have gone from emote-virgin to emote-lover in just over a week! I cannot say how much Penguin is awesome... and clever... and wonderful... and generous!

Ah - I love this shiney corner of the 'verse!

es to all - Magda x x x


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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:41 AM

SPACEANJL


Roaming in, in a techno-cripple kinda way. I can't even get emotes in my tag messages. And I'm much too scared to try and post anything in the Forsaken thread - it's all very professional and scary. I'm sticking with the recipes. I think those Stateside should learn to appreciate curry.

Was there a proper Imponderable being pondered? I have a lot of time, if not the bandwidth, at the moment.

One lonely SpaceAnJL (missing her husband)


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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:45 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


I love curry!

So hey, when was the last time you defragged your machine? Might be slowing down a bit if it's jammed up in that area.
Also, I learned today not to delete my cookies if I really want the site to display right the first few times I post. Pictures just don't always load; particularly the avatars and emotes. Or maybe since you had the same problem, it was just the site being slightly odd again.

So when is your hubby getting back?

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:59 AM

MSG


Morning all...OK so glad that was the last 7am meeting of death 'cause I am so not getting up this early again!!!
Oh sure Magda mention giving up caffine on the day I've had 4.5 hours of sleep and just had to have coffee ( mind I only have coffee about 4 times a month)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2



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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:17 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Awwww... sorry sweet MsG! I wouldn't have mentioned it if I'd known that! You enjoy your coffee darling and let nature take it's course! And I will personally come over and 'he-bitch-man-slap- that school principal if he/she doesn't immediately stop those meetings! Really - I'll do it - just might take me about 18 moths to save up the airfare... (did you get my PM sweet thing?

Oh GPR - not at all sure what 'cookies' are so I probably need to learn that one next... I really am computerly challenged...

And SpaceANGL - that just sucks! (one of PR's emotes - thank you gorgeous one!) We miss you being around more too...

Now - if this seems a little agressive for me - sorry - I guess I am cross about something - but I never could stand it when people treat folk I love with contempt and that's what I just dealt with! So there!

... we will now return you to our regular Magda...

That's better! Love you all & goodnight! - Magda x x x Got to get some sleep!




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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:31 AM

SPACEANJL


Hey, babes, how you doin'?

My computer is just slow, is all. But I have found a broadband package that I am going to apply for, which will hopefully speed things up. I have a very scary firewall/virus scanner programme and I do regularly defrag my system. I have upwards of 300,000+ words of original writing on it, for a start, so I tend to worry.

I am without husband until the end of the month, and with my folks going on holiday, I have found out that I am going to be alone on my birthday. Just me and my fatboy mogzilla. (I will post a pic of him at some point, just to scare people) Kinda sad when you have to bribe your only company for affection with tuna and prawns.

I shall just have to go back to contemplating my nice new books. BTW, Magda, did you know that AB owns a didgeridoo? The mind, um, boggles...

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