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What are your *least* favorite Firefly moments?
Friday, January 30, 2004 6:17 AM
OKKAY
Friday, January 30, 2004 6:22 AM
GHOULMAN
Friday, January 30, 2004 6:30 AM
SEVENPERCENT
Friday, January 30, 2004 6:39 AM
ENDERSPAWN
Friday, January 30, 2004 6:55 AM
SHINY
Friday, January 30, 2004 6:57 AM
HERO
Friday, January 30, 2004 7:00 AM
BROWNCOAT1
May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.
SAFFY
Friday, January 30, 2004 7:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Enderspawn: Mal isn't that kind of guy. He's too internalized. If Tim Minear writes him that way then it's one of his substantial character flaws...and one of his coolest traits. Does batman explain himself? Heeeeellll no!
Friday, January 30, 2004 7:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: And what was that thing River was eating in 'The Message'. Looked like a combination of a mace and cotten candy. They just did it to work in the line about it being "problematic". Being so smart it could have been just as funny to show her having trouble with something simple like chopstiks, or eating peas with a fork, or peanut butter, or maybe getting a suger high (that would have been funny).
Friday, January 30, 2004 7:11 AM
BARNEYT
Quote:Originally posted by Okkay: [B I agree that Mal was probably written with that particular character trait, and I can understand him not explaining his actions in Bushwhacked, but in The Message, Tracey has a gun pointed at Wash and Kaylee. I'm thinking those are extreme circumstances where the story just feels stupid by not having Mal explain himself. One line: "Tracey, we're not going to turn you in", would have been enough to take care of the situation and not get his crew killed. Batman doesn't explain himself, but I'm sure if one of his friends had another of his friends at gunpoint, he would explain himself so no one would die. But that's just my opinion.
Friday, January 30, 2004 7:13 AM
ARIYA
Friday, January 30, 2004 7:18 AM
HKCAVALIER
Friday, January 30, 2004 7:28 AM
LOADANDMAKEREADY
Quote:Originally posted by Okkay: Another time Mal caused an understanding by not explaining himself was in Bushwhacked, when they're caught by the Alliance and he asks Simon to get River, Simon gets mad because he thinks Mal's selling them out. Why couldn't have Mal just said "Simon, get your sister, we're going to hide you guys."? Just little things that bug me. So I wondered if other people had similar moments that they either didn't like or didn't get.
Friday, January 30, 2004 7:39 AM
STATIC
Friday, January 30, 2004 7:50 AM
MANIACNUMBERONE
Friday, January 30, 2004 12:33 PM
FIRELILY
Quote:Originally posted by Enderspawn: 1) The weirdly edited Inara bathing scene in the final version of the pilot...what happened guys? Big technical weirdness. That was more of a glitch then bad Firefly though.
Friday, January 30, 2004 1:03 PM
SLAYER730
Friday, January 30, 2004 7:33 PM
FORTUNATUS
Friday, January 30, 2004 8:18 PM
TALONPEST
Friday, January 30, 2004 9:01 PM
LTNOWIS
Quote:Originally posted by Fortunatus: My absolute least favorite bit occurs in Our Mrs. Reynolds. Saffron has married Mal and is aboard Serenity doing her innocent act. Then, the ship passes the guys who fry crews and steal their ships. These guys talk about whether or not Serenity's worth taking, and decide to steal her. Then, later on, it turns out that Saffron was working with them?! Why the heck would they bicker over stealing Serenity if Saffron had already boarded her with the purpose of guiding her into the ship-frying net? That's bugged me ever since the first time it was aired.
Friday, January 30, 2004 9:57 PM
NOOCYTE
Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:33 AM
DRAKON
Quote:Originally posted by Okkay: One reason that The Message has always bugged me was that the whole episode could have been resolved peacefully if Mal just *explained* to Tracey that their plan wasn't to turn him over to the cop. He didn't have to keep the plan secret, but he did, there was a big misunderstanding, and bad things happened because of it, and Tracey died. Yes, the episode needed Tracy to die, but they way it happened just bugs me every time.
Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by slayer730: My least favorite Firefly moment would have to be Jubel Early threatening to rape Kaylee. I think it was not only offensive, but completely unnecessary.
Saturday, January 31, 2004 1:17 AM
RONALDRAYGUN
Saturday, January 31, 2004 5:24 AM
Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:24 AM
SAINT JAYNE
Quote:Originally posted by Drakon: I have to speak in Mal's defense. A firefight is not the time or place for a civilized debate. You either trust your commanding officer or you don't.
Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:41 AM
STEVE580
Quote:Originally posted by RonaldRaygun: The only thing that bugs me is the use of present day weapons. 500 years in the future and they still use .45's? I wouldn't think that it would have cost too much to fancify the weapons like they did with Mals.
Saturday, January 31, 2004 8:21 AM
KAYTHRYN
Quote: Originally posted by Okkay: One reason that The Message has always bugged me was that the whole episode could have been resolved peacefully if Mal just *explained* to Tracey that their plan wasn't to turn him over to the cop. He didn't have to keep the plan secret, but he did, there was a big misunderstanding, and bad things happened because of it, and Tracey died. Yes, the episode needed Tracy to die, but they way it happened just bugs me every time.
Saturday, January 31, 2004 8:46 AM
AMANDA4U
Saturday, January 31, 2004 8:50 AM
GEORDIESTEVE2003
Saturday, January 31, 2004 10:34 AM
Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by slayer730: Amanda4U, I understand where you are coming from. I understand that Early was trying to intimidate Kaylee and keep her quiet. It just seems like a completely over the top and unnecessary way to do it. He had a gun, it would have been enough to scare the go se out of Kaylee(especially since we've seen how "adept" she is at gunplay).
Saturday, January 31, 2004 2:58 PM
Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:38 PM
NIGHTTRAIN
Saturday, January 31, 2004 6:39 PM
BOURNE
Quote:Originally posted by BrownCoat1: As to Mal explaining why he does things or letting everyone in on his plans, that is the problem w/ command. The second you start informing everyone what you are doing, then everyone will put in their two cents, questions, and suggestions. You have a debate on your hands then and at times like in "The Message", they simply did not have time to talk things over. I guess it boils down to he is the captain and he always does what is best for everyone concerned.
Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:06 PM
VETERAN
Don't squat with your spurs on.
Quote:he should realize that whether Tracey will become insubordinate due to a little info is moot. He's way past insubordinate and working on mutiny. At numerous points, he could see Tracey's slide into desperate lunacy, and seen that "what's best for the crew" is to defuse the situation.
Saturday, January 31, 2004 8:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Veteran: I always thought you shot mutineers.
Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:49 PM
Sunday, February 1, 2004 12:49 AM
SHSSAY
Sunday, February 1, 2004 1:20 AM
11THHOUR
Quote:Originally posted by Steve580:Also, in Heart of Gold. The whole epsiode.
Sunday, February 1, 2004 4:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Ariya: As for an explanation, Jubal handled each person on the ship differently (as was mentioned above and in the commentary). Kaylee's character was based in her sensuality, her innocence, and her passion. Ariya
Sunday, February 1, 2004 5:20 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Sunday, February 1, 2004 6:37 AM
Sunday, February 1, 2004 7:23 AM
GORRAMREAVERS
Sunday, February 1, 2004 8:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Static: Do you think Joss could have come up with a BETTER way to give us a glimpse RIGHT OFF THE BAT of what a deeply EVIL and BRUTAL man our potentially recurring villain is? I doubt it.
Sunday, February 1, 2004 8:48 AM
CAITLYN
Sunday, February 1, 2004 8:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Saint Jayne: [BAs a side point, I was also moved to discomfort by the "on your knees" scene in Heart of Gold but nobody brings that up.
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