Ever notice? by Static

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Ever notice?

POSTED BY: STATIC
UPDATED: Monday, February 9, 2004 14:12
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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 12:20 PM

We have commented before on how we 'absorbed' the lingo of the show. . .examples from my life:

"Aces three-five, this is Saber six. . .we got some local color happening. . .a grand entrance would not go amiss."

and such. . .

I was watching "War Stories" again today with the commentary by Alan and Nathan. . .always a hoot. . .and I noticed that they BOTH make FREQUENT use of the "not so much" bit.

Anyone else noticed anything like that?

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"Wash. . .we got some local color happening. A grand entrance would not go amiss."

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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 12:28 PM

SLAYER730

Oh yeah...I'm constantly using "dong ma?" and gorram....go se too

***Never judge a book by its movie***

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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 12:44 PM

GEORDIESTEVE2003

I do that as well. Does it mean understand? Well i hope so, and not something like baboon ass crack.

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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 12:53 PM

FIRELILY

I've been known to use "shiny" and "sly" on occasion.

I'm working on "gorram" but usually it comes out forced, as I was gonna say goddamn or f'ing anyway lol

. me-->

lol

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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 12:54 PM

WERESPAZ

The funny thing about the saying, "Not so much", for me anyway, is that my friend used to say it all the time, before Firefly. We used to make fun of her for saying it all the time, which led to us saying it the time, and then they say it (repeatedy) on Firefly, and it was almost as if they were part of the joke. It's still funny to me...

-The SpAz

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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 1:03 PM

SPIKESPIEGEL

"Not so much" was Paul Reiser's signature ... thing on "Mad About You," which premiered about ten years ago. I presume that, like so much of his character on that show, it grew out of his standup work, so he's probably been using it for ages.

It was heavily heard in other Joss shows. I'm working through Buffy Season 5 on DVD right now and every third thing Zander says has "not so much" in it.

"Bang."

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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 1:06 PM

JASONZZZ

dong3 = understand or to understand
ma is a question ending.

But, if you say it just right, it could mean a baboon's ass.

Quote:
Originally posted by geordiesteve2003:
I do that as well. Does it mean understand? Well i hope so, and not something like baboon ass crack.

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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 2:02 PM

STEVE580

Quote:
Originally posted by firelily:
I've been known to use "shiny" and "sly" on occasion. I'm working on "gorram" but usually it comes out forced, as I was gonna say goddamn or f'ing anyway lol . me--> lol

lol - my friends and I use 'sly' all the time. "Man, that's sly" if something sucks; or to insult someone, "What, are you sly?" It's great, becuase most people have no clue what it means.
-Steve

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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 4:52 PM

SAINT JAYNE

Quote:
Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
dong3 = understand or to understand
ma is a question ending.

So, is a corrent response to the question "Dong3 ma", "Dong3"?

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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 4:54 PM

TEELABROWN

I curse only in Mandrin. And I say "shiny" a lot. Sometimes I end conversations with "Keep flyin'." And I quote a lot.

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"Freedom is the Freedom to say that 2+2 makes 4. If that is granted, all else follws"-Winston, 1984
Keep flyin', and remember, THEY can't take the sky from US!
Teela Brown, keeper of bad typing.

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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 5:20 PM

EBONEZER

a little off subject but yesterday i was talking to somebody and suddenly broke out into Wash's "This land" monolge with the dinosaurs. Except i didn't have dinos so i used my hands but still. Firefly is always on my mind.

"Oh my god it's grotesqe! and here's a thing in a jar."

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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 5:21 PM

ANKHAGOGO

Heh. Yeah, I do the "not so much" thing -- I did it before, a bit, but I've noticed it seems to be getting more frequent.
Also, I have been y'all-ing it up like there's no tomorrow. Like I said on another thread,I live in Oklahellma, and I have been very studiously NOT saying y'all for years. It's a little weird that it's suddenly filtered into my brain -- and mildly traumatic as well.
And I have told a person or two that I could kill them with my brain ---

"But she was naked! And all...articulate!"

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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 5:23 PM

JASONZZZ

Yep, most of the time. If the question
was a straight question. Then you can
respond with "Dong3". Basically...

"ma" is very useful, you can turn a lot
of verbs into questions just using it
as an ending. e.g.:

ji4de2 ma? Do you remember? (Remember?)
du4zi e4 ma? Are you hungry? (Stomach empty?)
Nan2Kan4 ma? Is that Ugly? (Difficult to look at?)

Quote:
Originally posted by Saint Jayne:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
dong3 = understand or to understand
ma is a question ending.

So, is a corrent response to the question "Dong3 ma", "Dong3"?

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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 6:45 PM

SEVENPERCENT

Quote:
Originally posted by ebonezer:
a little off subject but yesterday i was talking to somebody and suddenly broke out into Wash's "This land" monolge with the dinosaurs. Except i didn't have dinos so i used my hands but still. Firefly is always on my mind.

"Oh my god it's grotesqe! and here's a thing in a jar."

I do this one a lot, actually- Sometimes substituting whatever happens to be close at the time (like, "this Table" or "this Car")- And 'shiny,' that's pretty common to hear from me too-
Heh- Almost forgot one- Someone was reading an article about an arson attempt the other day, and I busted out with "little man loved fire", much to my own personal amusement-

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He looked bigger when I couldn't see him.

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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 7:06 PM

NOOCYTE

Yah, Spike, I LOVED "Mad About You!" I too had noticed the "not so much" connection with FF, but, for some reason never got round to illuminating my fellow Browncoats about that (they all seemed so PROUD!).

Many a "Shiny" has escaped my lips (indeed, it is beginning to gain ground on "groovy," which I still use because it is such a delightful anachronism). I am struggling to memorize Wash's "all the planets in the Universe..." rant.

The other day in a session (I'm a shrink), I was referring to something which was past, but about which someone was harboring undue amounts of guilt. What I said was "That's air through the engine." I also frequently ask clients "How're you faring with that?"

The clincher, though, is my wife who, while she enjoys the show, is not a Browncoat (though, thankfully, not a Fed either!). She reminds me often (as if I need reminding) how slightly daft it is to re-watch the eps as often as I do (my kind of stupid!). And yet, the other night she looked at me and said, in a high-lariously exasperated tone, that she was beginning to refer mentally to unsavory things as "go-se!"

And, of course, Keep Flyin'!!

Department of Redundancy Department

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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 7:17 PM

CHEAPJOE

Well..I was saying an awful lot of Shinys at work until someone else there (that is a HUGE REM fan) started breaking out with shiny happy people when i said it. Of couse I have to tell him when he does it that I can kill him with my brain.

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Wednesday, February 4, 2004 3:00 AM

STEAMEDBAO3

Lots of "shiny", "dong ma", "go se", and "luh suh" keeping poppin' into everyday day speach. My biggest problem is that I have managed to adopt Mal's speech pattern and inflection.

God created Mudder's Milk so the Independence wouldn't take over the 'verse.

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Wednesday, February 4, 2004 3:46 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Let's see....I use dong ma, shiny, gorram, hun dan, and "special Hell" all the time.

I quote from the show quite a bit, so much so that my wife and coworkers now know what I am talking about when I do.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Wednesday, February 4, 2004 3:50 AM

MALSDOXY

I know what did this...

Yeah...I personally use Simon's line
" Could you please not do that while we're...EVER !"

And 'verse and, of course, shiny

Folk has crept in there, too

Static...you and yours stay safe out there, dong ma ?

Haven't you killed me enough for one day ?

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Wednesday, February 4, 2004 11:28 AM

SPIKESPIEGEL

Noocyte,

You probably loved the very neurotic Mad About You for professional reasons, right? Great to cross paths with another fan of that show.

I've got "shiny" fully in my vocabulary, because it makes sense kinda to anyone. If I start saying "gorram" or "go se" too often, the time I have to take to explain them will kill the fun.

My eye caught on what you said about replacing "groovy." I find myself working with people in their fifties who say "cool" all the time. Which is not entirely ... cool. I've grown tired of that over- (and mis-)used word, and have switched to fun outdated stuff like "groovy," which cannot be said without irony, IMO. But "shiny," judiciously applied, is just SO much better.

And I have occasionally used actual dialogue, not slang. "My days of not taking you seriously ..." is a great one, now and again.

"Bang."

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Wednesday, February 4, 2004 2:25 PM

EBONEZER

You know what else i've developed? That sarcastic closed-mouth grin of mals. And if somebody askes me something like, "what did i tell you about..." i reply "That it was impulsive and manly?" (slightly odd because I'm a girl but hey.)

Im working to get shiny into my vocabulry. Also working to get gorram out. I'm getting tired of explaining it.

"Oh my god it's grotesqe! and here's a thing in a jar."

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Wednesday, February 4, 2004 3:17 PM

IRISANNE

The other day I accidentally said, "I'd take it as a kindness." You should have seen the look on my co-worker's face.

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Wednesday, February 4, 2004 5:23 PM

INEVITABLEBETRAYAL

You know, it isn't so much that specific phrases are invading my vocabulary, as it is the style. I actually use "shiny" occasionally, and I've caused not a few raised eyebrows with the whole "This Land" monologue (which in my opinion is about the funniest thing Wash ever says). But more so, I tend to imitate the style. I find myself using the phrase "them as" a lot, as well as "reckon", "you and yours", "peck", etc. But I guess what I'm really after is that mode of speech. It's interesting what the writer said on the commentary to Shindig. I can't remember the specific thing she was referring to (my copy is on loan; hoping to convert us a new Browncoat), but she basically said that she thought there was a better way for Mal to say something. That's what I like: saying things all artful (e.g. dropping the "-ly" from "artfully"). Using "-ify" is my new thing. You'd be amazed at all the different words you can use it to prettify!

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Monday, February 9, 2004 2:12 PM

ANKHAGOGO

Quote:
I like: saying things all artful (e.g. dropping the "-ly" from "artfully"). Using "-ify" is my new thing. You'd be amazed at all the different words you can use it to prettify!

I get a kick out of the "-ified" and "-tical" endings that get slapped on everywhere.
You know,stuff like "corpsified" and "poetical" --it makes me happy.

I did have a giggle moment the other day, when someone on the radio said "townfolk".

Actually, that was the same day when I had to call someone whose last name was Cobb, someone whose last name was Jayne (and spelled just that way) and one was a woman called Harmony. It was a very Whedon day.

"But she was naked! And all...articulate!"

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