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Male and Female Imponderables - Handclaps Are The New Black

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Sunday, October 22, 2006 8:46 PM

NICODEMUS


Time for another new thread.

Old one is still available at http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=24746

Anyone got a new ponderance for us?

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Sunday, October 22, 2006 9:25 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Oooooh, did I get home just in time for firsties?

http://www.bigdamnthankyou.com - show 'Versal your gratitude!

A good friend who points out mistakes and imperfections and rebukes evil is to be respected as if he reveals a secret of hidden treasure. - Gautama Siddharta

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Sunday, October 22, 2006 9:35 PM

SHINYKITTEN


second-y's! YAY!!
so, what are we pondering??

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Sunday, October 22, 2006 9:52 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


*reads through last imponderable thread*
Ooooh, neko brought up microfiber undies! Those are nice. Don't look as sexy, but they feel pretty nice.
And punishments for chicks who play games... Got nothing to add to that.
And a lot of folk are still sick... *drinks pomegranate juice like water*
Don't see anything else. I should be able to think of a ponderance, but... But I can't! Who has something?

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Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:52 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Hey everyone! It's been a lovely Monday here in Melbourne - hope it bodes well for my Imponderers the world over...

So Whitefall - that is kind of what I meant - just holding open the door for folk is a good start - but if you are in the right place at the right time you can make them feel extra special!

Mei Mei - I noticed the reference to microfibre too but forgot to mention it - yes... it feels good...

So - *ahem* I am glad the date went so well Tristan... ...No seriously - you deserve it!

Hi Nico!! good to see you!

So... what are we pondering???




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Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:58 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I have a ponderance.... whatever happened to the old black?

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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Monday, October 23, 2006 1:23 AM

MSG


Morning Magda HUGS for the big sis
and HUGS for PR and FMF and Tristan and NV and...oh I could just keep going and going
Ok it's a good think the hugs are virtual because the dratted sinus infection has now winnowed into my lungs ( stupid useless immune system) so now I have to desperately hope to get a substitute ( if I don't I have to go teach unless I'm in the hospital) and head to the doctor...argh oh well
So what are we pondering?

How about what one movie most fully represents how your life usually works??

For me that'd be One Fine Day- I don't have a kid yet, but the constant runnign with plans scattering to the winds and timing that is continuously off somewhow making life more stressful- and yet still fun, is me:)

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Monday, October 23, 2006 2:29 AM

MSG


You know, using my hair dryer would be so much easier without one of my cats...this cat (DJ-short for Daniel Jackson) loves the hair dryer. Every time I use it, he comes running in and wants me to use the dryer on him. He loves the warmth. So he'll roll about and expose his tum and then turn to one side then the other ( for even warming on all sides)

Ok and I just heard a technology fact that stunned me...did you know that on today's date ( oct 23rd for us Yanks)in 2001 the apple ipod was first introduced. I can't believe it's been such a short time and our culture is already so over-run...holy smack that's a short time for such a take-over ( not that I don't have an ipod and love it soooo much)

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Monday, October 23, 2006 2:35 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


hmmmm... I need to think about that one my gorgeous MsG! But here's a kiss for you to get better with and I'll look after my li'l sis... don't you worry!

I don't think I have a film that sums up me or my life... I can think of lots of moments in films that I relate to... or wish I could capture in my own life...

Let me ponder coz I'll either think of lots or nothing... you wait and see...

EDIT: LOL at the image of your cat DJ... is he as cute as his namesake?

I'm thinking still... the last film I saw in the cinema was 'The Lake House'... *sighs*




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Monday, October 23, 2006 2:52 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Awwwwwww, I wish I could bring you yummy, soothing, vitamin-rich juice Ms G!
Can't think of a film that sums up my life... Hmmmmmm...
Also, I don't own an iPod. I know, I'm so out of the loop, right? I have no use for one. All my music is on my computer and that's where I listen to it.

http://www.bigdamnthankyou.com - show 'Versal your gratitude!

A good friend who points out mistakes and imperfections and rebukes evil is to be respected as if he reveals a secret of hidden treasure. - Gautama Siddharta

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Monday, October 23, 2006 3:08 AM

NICODEMUS


I don't own an iPod either, so you're not the only one who feels that music on the computer is enough.

Magda, I hope you've got your warm-weather gear ready, cos it was a stinker today.

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Monday, October 23, 2006 3:34 AM

TRISTAN


Morning, all.
Of course, work would not be work if it did not pile up over the two days that I have been gone. Looks like I will need a leaf blower to get this desk cleared off! Could be fun, though...

Thank you, Magda...I think...

MSG, I am sorry to hear that you caught the dread ick bug. I offer hope that it does not last long.
A movie that represents my life? Wow...that would take some thinking. My first inclination was Money Pit, but life has been better than that lately. Huh. I'm not really sure...

Wow, five years of the ipod.

Magda, The Lake House would be a good summation, wouldn't it?



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Monday, October 23, 2006 3:48 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Tristan...yes m'dear - just... don't run in front of buses is all I can say...

I don't have an ipod either... was thinking that I might get one duty free when I go to Dragon Con???

Thank you for the warning Nico... got to dig up more Summer clothes then, eh?

Did I mention I'm hoping to make it to Dragon Con?? Next year...??? In September??? 2007??? In the USA?

Can't Stop the Signal!




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Monday, October 23, 2006 4:01 AM

TRISTAN


Magda, I can't wait for you to get here! So, is it next year yet?

Buses...I'll remember the buses...thank you. (Except I haven't seen it yet...and now I'm afraid to!)



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Monday, October 23, 2006 4:16 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Tristan!...it's Tuesday already... does that help?

Yeah - it'll be next year for me before it is for you!!...for most of you ...I think... I'm confuzzling myself...

maybe I should just go to bed...

...just... yeah... watch out for buses... oh and dates - they're really dangerous too...

So who else is aiming to go to Dragon Con? Will it be your first time? Who's been? Who wants to go? What the hell am I doing???

Take care of yourself my sweet MsG! I do hope you got a sub - or you could try a dramatic 'stage faint' - I did one once for Oliver Twist... I was Oliver... yeah - it's a long story...




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Monday, October 23, 2006 4:29 AM

TRISTAN


Knowing it's Tuesday somewhere does help...thank you!
And what's wrong with dates, exactly? I had a very enjoyable time going out with someone, which has not happened in a long while. Even the silences were comfortable...although there were times we just grinned at each other like moonbrains!

Magda, you will have such a blast, not only at D*C, but the whole visit will be wonderful. Assuming you make it to Alabama, I will enjoy showing you around! Not sure what we'll do for the rest of the day (not much to see!), but it will be fun!

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Monday, October 23, 2006 4:33 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


You know I'm aiming for DragonCon, jie-jie! And it will be my first time there. And my first time taking a trip as a full-fledged adult, all by myself. Wow, that sounds kinda sad But it will be fun! Funfunfunfunfun!
And GorramnDoll is coming with me! Yes, we are both going. We often say we just have to.

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Monday, October 23, 2006 4:33 AM

MSG


Thanks MAgda- BIG HUGS

Tristan- I've had it for two weeks it just keeps getting worse because Ican't take a day off...I don't mean this in the I feel I should work sense. I mean this in the I've signed a contract that states that unless I am hospitalized I CANNOT take a day off unless I get a sub and there's a serious substitute shortage so I've been unable to get one.
Right at this moment I have a 102 degree fever, I am struggling to breathe, I've had two hours of sleep, and I feel like death, but here I sit in my classroom because yet again no sub could be found....however on the bright side it's gone to my lungs so within the next week I should likely end up in the hospital so it won't matter that I can't find a sub:) See positive attitudes are good...sorry I'm just super cranky right now 'cause I'm so sick and I'm still having to be here

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Monday, October 23, 2006 5:29 AM

MSG


OMG- poke poke poke I've killed you all with my germs... ok don't panic I'll call the ariel ambulance and I promise not to let Jayne near the cortical electrodes unless nothing else works

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Monday, October 23, 2006 5:38 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Don't get me started on the Education system...Is there such a dearth of subs in your area and that's why they put it in the contract or is yours a standard contract one might find anywhere? Or are they making things just plain difficult for the people who are doing the most honorable work? I have the same issues with nursing. And then there's the whole heroic occupations...Don't get me started.

(Wrapped in there somewhere is a warm blanket bestowed with sincere hugs)

"Well, here I am."


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Monday, October 23, 2006 5:43 AM

MSG


Thanks ever so Jonny. Sadly for teachers that's a standard contract. Because there has to be a live adult supervising the children no matter what, we have to be here unless we find another adult to stand in for us. Yes there's a shortage of subs...the job requires a high school diploma and pays $65 a day so it's hard to get people. Yeah nurses, cops, doctors, firefighters, etc... short stick for very important jobs... yet we pay the nice men who can jump and push a tiny ball through a net millions and only ask them to work 1/2 the year...shows what we value:)

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Monday, October 23, 2006 5:44 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Well, Good Morning all.

Not much to report. It seems I'm either short of friends or no one really wants to hear that I'm stuck in inner space again.


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Monday, October 23, 2006 5:47 AM

MSG


What's up NV?? HUGS so what happened and why are you in innerspace again???

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Monday, October 23, 2006 5:48 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Well, Good Morning all.

Not much to report. It seems I'm either short of friends or no one really wants to hear that I'm stuck in inner space again.



Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on there. NO friends? We're here, buddy. Talk to us. What's going on? (I guessing it's probably not a good thing...)

"Well, here I am."


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Monday, October 23, 2006 5:49 AM

TRISTAN


MSG, gah! I feel bad for you! Stupid education system...do they not realize you could be a plague-bearer? Hey, if you get all the students sick, they'll have to close the school! On second thought...that's not a bad idea...

Hugs and feel-good vibes are heading your way!

Morning, JQ, NVG!

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Monday, October 23, 2006 5:51 AM

MSG


Thanks Tristan- Yeah I've pondered charging the teachers $5 a head to infect those students we'd like to see home and not here:) Just kidding:)

NV- yeah hey what are we chopped liver??? Friendly ear right here, no waiting.

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Monday, October 23, 2006 5:57 AM

TRISTAN


I third, fourth, and fifth that! What's going on, NVG? (I missed your post...must have been typing at the same time...)

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Monday, October 23, 2006 6:02 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


'Til this morning I shall say. I forgot to add that (ducks to avoid hurled objects).

Had no one to really talk to since Saturday night. Hung out with GND, BabySis, and some family friends after my little "outing" Saturday night. I didn't really talk with anyone about the evening but I did stay up late watching movies with GND. I can't really say my friends abandoned me. My bestest friend had a friends significant other die this weekend and is understandably grief striken. But (trying not to sound selfish) I'm still alive and needed a friend last night.

So, I met her at the place. Shot some fairly good games of pool (One with her), and kinda got ignored for a bit. She was on the phone on several occasions. Some asshole and his bitch started some beef and I ignored them well enough but she disappeared to use the phone for fifteen minutes so I left. She called and left a message to call her back whilst I was picking up PsychoBilly's WIC at Wally World so I returned the call and had to leave a message. She never called back. I'm assuming she had already picked up her son from the sitter. But thats the way assumptions go. SO again, I'm stuck in inner space with all the crap I wanted to say but hadn't the chance.

Thanks for the concern folks. I didn't mean to forget y'all are my friends. I'm just very isolated right now.


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Monday, October 23, 2006 6:08 AM

MSG


Trying to channel my inner patience and niceness...nope sorry I'm mad!!!! I am going to *&*$#$^@#%$ that I(UO^&%^$#$&*%^ until she ^$#&^(&@%^& and then (*&)*&%^%$#@#% her....... NOT amused!! That nasty little *^&%^%^#$@#@#$$%$^& As soon as you give the word, I am in a car driving down there to smakc her so hard they'll have to bury her in a sucrets box!
HUGS NV- honey I am so sorry she's a rotten excuse for a boil on the butt of humanity and should be left to fester in her own...Ok I cannot be calm about this I really really want to hurt her a whole lot!!

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2



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Monday, October 23, 2006 6:17 AM

MSG









and this is just to start with... I am so gonna make her


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Monday, October 23, 2006 6:18 AM

MAVOURNEEN


I'm with you, MsG. I've got a pretty nifty Half Nelson I can pull on her, too.

*After reading that, all I have to say to her behaviour is "How rude." Phone use during date/outing unless an emergency? Rude. Disappearing like that? Rude.

You can do better, NV. And, deserve better.

(Never, EVER feel isolated. That's what friends, and browncoats worldwide, are for. )




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Monday, October 23, 2006 6:29 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Honestly, it seemed the outing was downgraded from "date" the previous Wednesday when she suggested we go out to "friends" to "whatever" that evening. I just want clarification. A means to an end. She's certainly making it easier on me. I figure I'll call her when I drop off payroll this morning (hence the lapse in posts) and force a resolution. Starting to feel more and more like discussing terms of war as I go along.

Either there will be an armistace or the dogs of war will be loosed to defeat thine enemy and collect trophy's. Seems like a harsh way to put it, but thats how I feel.


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Monday, October 23, 2006 6:34 AM

MSG


Hey doesn't seem harsh to me, mind you I plan to stake her through that miserable withered black thing she calls a heart and then post her head on a pole after, of course, dragging her useless carcass through town!!! ( not that I have thought this through or anything)

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Monday, October 23, 2006 6:37 AM

MAVOURNEEN


The snarky side of me would go up to her when you drop off payroll and say "Hey there, no longer my favorite person in the whole world." and see how she responds.


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Monday, October 23, 2006 6:39 AM

MSG


oooh that's good. Mind you I'd add " bitch" but that'd just be me...

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Monday, October 23, 2006 6:41 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Jeez, if MsG can get like this whilst sick, imagine her at full strength!!

MsG


NvGhostrider

Alone and lonely is never a good combination. *gives manly arms length back-patting hug* Don't give her anymore of your valuable time, bro. Heal yourself first and see who else is out there. I wish it were a better outcome for you, but in time you might even come to see this is the better outcome. You just need to get from here to there. and that's what we're here for. To help you along the way. As for me I'm sorry I can't do this on the weekend; my weekend job has bad hours and I'm dead

when I get home. I really felt a need to touch base this weekend, too. Now I'm sorry I didn't heed the call...

"Well, here I am."


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Monday, October 23, 2006 6:46 AM

RUGBUG


Happy monday to the imponderables. Hope you sickies are feeling better. MSG: I wish much luck in finding a substitute...maybe tomorrow?

Quote:

Originally posted by Mavourneen:
The snarky side of me would go up to her when you drop off payroll and say "Hey there, no longer my favorite person in the whole world." and see how she responds.




Heh...that's funny. I'm a fan of the "cut you out of my life" stance. She certainly isn't worth keeping as a friend. I wouldn't even explain anything to her...just no longer deal with her crap. If she ever calls again, just use this wonderful word that I learned and that has saved me from much grief: "NO". It's magic. Honestly.



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Monday, October 23, 2006 6:52 AM

TRISTAN


Hey, NVG, ears always make good trophies.

I would not want to be in town when MSG gets there...the term 'collateral damage' springs to mind...



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Monday, October 23, 2006 6:52 AM

MSG


Jonny- HUGS on the overworked thing:)

Rugbug- right with you!

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Monday, October 23, 2006 6:58 AM

KELKHIL


Sorry to hear about your "date" NVG. Man that sucks but listen to these people. YOU CAN DO BETTER!

Tristan - What do you mean you don't want to be in town. I am selling tickets cuz MSG is going to be wearing that sweater from last week!

Kelkhil

The Shirtless Forsaken

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Monday, October 23, 2006 7:02 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29


NV- Sorry to hear she treated you so poorly.You deserve so much better.Maybe you should think about leting Msg loose on her .

Hi Ponderers . I sure have missed being here. My little one had a bad chest cold, and last week is a blur. But thankfully that's over & I can have some computer time for myself now . Let me tell you guys that a week of a 2 year old on steroids is not a fun thing.But if he's well enogh this weekend, my mother-in- law is taking both boys overnight.YAY !

So, how are you all doing on this beautiful day ?
Msg I hope you get to the dr. That sounds like a nasty bug.Feel better soon.I'll make you somw chicken soup, it's always good medicine.

Bryce
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I swallowed a bug.

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Monday, October 23, 2006 7:05 AM

MSG


yea for you LA a little alone time is always a good and shiny thing:)

Kelkhil- ok must quote J.D. Robb ( well one of her characters anyway) "When men stand back and watch women fight, it is with the cherished hope that clothes will be torn off along the way"

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Monday, October 23, 2006 7:08 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Now I just need the chance to say, "PISS OFF!"

Not that have any qualms over calling her at work at this point in time. I wish I could just listen to you shiny folks from the get go. Sure would make things much easier.

SO here's three points to make y'all angrier:

1. Remember the last time we were supposed to do something and she showed up at MY bar with the douchebag? She never called or apologized.

2. I found out last week that everytime she suggests we do something its because he ain't around or they're having problems and needs a fall guy. She has left me out of the loop of everything. She still hasn't called back to explain Saturday night.

3. The diouche she runs around with is married. He used a plane ticket she bought for him to fly home to see his wife. And now he wants her to buy another ticket so he can come up this weekend. I'm almost inclined to plot my weekend course to steer in their direction in order to bitch slap them both. LITERALLY!

My violent urges were well spressed toward the asshole and his bitch at the bar on Sat night. But I was not feeling particularly diplomatic as I uaually am. I hate that I was more than willing to resort to violence at a moments notice. I haven't really started feeling hurt 'til this morning. (Delayed reaction I guess)
Truthfully, I had an allright day yesterday hangin' out with the kids and all and I'm generally confused as of why. Theres just alot goin' on that I need clarification on.


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Monday, October 23, 2006 7:14 AM

MSG


Kids are like the best panacea in the world. Just holding them and being with them makes you happy enough to ignore all the wretched stuff around... As for the*(*(&&^%^#$%^^& woman we shall now refer to as Ms. Inexcusable I say she can just wither away with her patheticness...that guy will drop her soon enough and aparently she's content to waste her life on a holes instead of quality which means she's a useless excuse for a human and should be left to root in the garbage dump she so ardently seems to desire...

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2



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Monday, October 23, 2006 7:58 AM

WHIMSICALNBRAINPAN


NVG: Ok sweetie, I consider you a friend so you are going to get a bit of honesty here. Let me start out by stating the obvious, you deserve so much better.

It sounds like you are her backup guy. This is a guy a woman uses when she has nothing else to do or wants to make someone else jealous. Don't expect any apologies from this self involved bitch. Women like this are selfish and your feelings don't matter one bit. Cut her out of your life like the malignant tumor she is and find your sweet self someone better.

"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." http://whimsicalnbrainpan.blogspot.com/

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Monday, October 23, 2006 8:08 AM

TRISTAN


KelKhil, if that sweater of hers will be involved, then count me in! I am just worried about anyone that gets in her way...

LA29, good to see you again...welcome back! Glad the youngin' is on the mend.

NVG...man...I wish I was there with you, man. It would be time to hit a few bars and tear up the town. *big o' man hug* Stupid jien huo deserves to have the hounds of hell released upon her.

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Monday, October 23, 2006 8:15 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Cry Havoc!?!?


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Monday, October 23, 2006 8:16 AM

MSG


yes well the hound of hell is just waiting for permission

Hey another 45 minutes and I can go home. Yippee!! another teacher ( my dear friend Bruce) offered to watch my last period and I have 6th ( second to last period) as my free period so I can go home. Also I got a sub for tomorrow, so joy sleep and recuperation here I come.

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2



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Monday, October 23, 2006 8:18 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


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Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Now I just need the chance to say, "PISS OFF!"


She ain't even worth that. You know they almost give you the address of the Fry-cake Specialist in the Wikipedia article. Jus' sayin'.
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Not that have any qualms over calling her at work at this point in time. I wish I could just listen to you shiny folks from the get go. Sure would make things much easier.

My mom once said to my grandmother about me: "You know, he will always have to make his own mystakes. He won't learn from us." Some of us are just wired like that. Like we got a Missouri gene or something. Drives the wife nuts.

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SO here's three points to make y'all angrier:
1. Remember the last time we were supposed to do something and she showed up at MY bar with the douchebag? She never called or apologized.
2. I found out last week that everytime she suggests we do something its because he ain't around or they're having problems and needs a fall guy. She has left me out of the loop of everything. She still hasn't called back to explain Saturday night.
3. The diouche she runs around with is married. He used a plane ticket she bought for him to fly home to see his wife. And now he wants her to buy another ticket so he can come up this weekend. I'm almost inclined to plot my weekend course to steer in their direction in order to bitch slap them both. LITERALLY!


#1 & #2 same plot different situation: Didn't call (back). Discourteous at the very least, cold-blooded is more like it.
#3 Sounds like she might be the one getting played here. Not only is she the other woman, she's paying for the privilege. If she feels anything at all for this guy, your vengence is all but assured. And 'twill be a sweet savor on your tongue indeed...

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My violent urges were well spressed toward the asshole and his bitch at the bar on Sat night. But I was not feeling particularly diplomatic as I uaually am. I hate that I was more than willing to resort to violence at a moments notice. I haven't really started feeling hurt 'til this morning. (Delayed reaction I guess)
Truthfully, I had an allright day yesterday hangin' out with the kids and all and I'm generally confused as of why. Theres just alot goin' on that I need clarification on.


Understandably your impulse controls were already under duress; I wouldn't sweat it too much yet. If it becomes routine, you might want to rethink your state of mind.

While I understand what MsG is saying about kid therapy, I also must wonder if it's not something else, too. You might have been feeling "okay" because your expectations were fulfilled (at one level) and you are free (or in the process of freeing yourself) of her influence over you and there's a kind of relief you're feeling. Not a psycho, myself, so I can't dispense professional advice. Just something to think about.

"Well, here I am."


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Monday, October 23, 2006 8:21 AM

TRISTAN


Aye, indeed, brother...cry havoc!

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