Male and Female Imponderables-Then he kissed me by msg

yippee we're back:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 8:11 AM

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

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Originally posted by Tristan:
Halloween...taken from wikipedia (not always the most reliable source, but it does have all the info compacted into neat chunks). This is the part that I was looking for. It looks to me like it was hijacked...
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The term Halloween, and its older spelling Hallowe'en, is shortened from All-hallow-even, as it is the evening before "All Hallows' Day"[1] (also known as "All Saints' Day"). The holiday was a day of religious festivities in various northern European Pagan traditions, until Popes Gregory III and Gregory IV moved the old Christian feast of All Saints Day from May 13 to November 1. In Ireland, the name was All Hallows' Eve (often shortened to Hallow Eve), and though seldom used today, it is still a well-accepted label. The festival is also known as Samhain or Oíche Shamhna to the Irish, Calan Gaeaf to the Welsh, Allantide to the Cornish and Hop-tu-Naa to the Manx. Halloween is also called Pooky Night in some parts of Ireland, presumably named after the púca, a mischievous spirit.

Many European cultural traditions hold that Halloween is one of the liminal times of the year when spirits can make contact with the physical world and when magic is most potent (e.g. Catalan mythology about witches, Irish tales of the Sídhe).

(Bold added by poster)

I think you'll find that ALL of the big Christian HOLYdays were previously Pagan feasts. (In fact since I've only been here a short while in the grand scheme of things, I was wondering if we are planning a special Pyre for the Boar's Head Festival?) Easter (whose very name might be (oy, such controversy!) derived from the name of an ancient Mesopotamian (sorry, folks, not going to play who said it first here: find another thread) sex cult high priestess/goddess tradition. PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SHOOT ME DOWN HERE; I AM NOT ATTEMPTING TO GIVE THE ACCURATE, AUTHENTIC HISTORY. I AM PARAPHRASING A THOUSAND DIFFERENT SOURCES, BRINGING UP ONLY THE PERTINENT OR "INTERESTING" TIDBITs. (no apologies to Mavourneen, I'm still mad at her!) Astarte, Ashtoreth and Ishtar being a few of the aliases. Spring and fertility and such.

Equinoxes are important. So are Solstices. The Christian mindset at the time was to show that Christianity was the superior religion by subplanting the Pagan festivals but to hold onto to just enough of the traditions and rituals to give things a familiar feel and therefore be more "spiritually palatable". Not going to open the floor for discussing the merits of that either. Just some trivia for y'all. I got a million of 'em.

"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 8:14 AM

GED

Good afternoon Imponderers!

On the subject of cats - while I don't have cats I have had a dog growing up. Dogs are definitely more dependent than cats. I have a lot of friends who have cats, and I'm sure they would agree that they feel like staff for their cats. I would probably have a cat if I wasn't allergic to them. But I think, by and large, I'm a dog person.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 8:21 AM

Hey that's a good ponderable...So are you a cat or dog person and why?

I am both a cat and dog person. I love dogs to take on walks and play with, plus I feel safer with dogs around. I love cats for how cute they are, their funny antics, and when they curl up on me.

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 8:39 AM

GED

I love both dogs and cats as well, but I would consider myself more of a dog person because of the lovable nature of dogs that probably comes from the dependency and attention they require. Plus with dogs, you can grab them and give them a big hug, whereas cats are little more fragile.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 8:41 AM

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

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Originally posted by msg:
Definitely Pagan:) Though I may have to drag PaganPaul out here to bless our house when we move in May to the new one...

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
RIMG- hmmm sorry about the baptists...methodists are a little calmer( for the most part) but having grown up in Atlanta I do understand the church on every corner.

Pagan? Methodist?

Which is it? Here I thought you wuz plain-spoken, out-spoken and soft-spoken. I fear this may not be the case. *narrows eyes* Are you a...WITCH????

I haven't been this confused since PhoenixRose said she was Pagan and Buddhist! And then there's Magdalena!!

All this mishing and mashing about. Why does everyone insist on coloring outside the lines?

(Do ya think anyone remembers me claiming to be an Existential Neo-Platonist? Naw. I'm sure they missed that one. Besides, I think it was a Neo-Platonic Existentialist...)

"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 8:46 AM

TRISTAN

Are labels really necessary?

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 8:52 AM

GED

I think "coloring outside the lines" promotes understanding of different cultures, beliefs, and ways of life. As for labels, "a Rose by any other name would smell as sweet." You are who you are whether or not you identify with one group of people. The question of identity is an ongoing process as social mores and morals continue to change as new issues arise, as well as the introduction of more and different cultures into our society.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 8:54 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Well, technically...
The dictionary definition of 'Pagan' is 'a religion which is not Abrahamic in origin' 'any religion that is not Christianity, Cathlolicsism, or Judaism' 'any polytheistic religion' etc etc etc. Kinda paraphrasing that, but to say that I'm Pagan takes in all those beleif systems not based on the bible, hence Buddhism is included...
No, I'm sure that just confused you more. Let's just leave it at this: Contemplative religions meld very well. There, ok. I'm going to bed.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 9:09 AM

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

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Originally posted by Ged:
I think "coloring outside the lines" promotes understanding of different cultures, beliefs, and ways of life. As for labels, "a Rose by any other name would smell as sweet." You are who you are whether or not you identify with one group of people. The question of identity is an ongoing process as social mores and morals continue to change as new issues arise, as well as the introduction of more and different cultures into our society.

I want to believe that idea is a large part of why we're all so captivated by Firefly. None of the Big Damn Heroes can be easily pigeon-holed or stereo-typed or however you wish to describe it. I think one of Joss's intents, if not the main one is to change not necessarily the mind of the viewer, but the perspective the viewer has to use to "define" the characters for themself. Mal's a good guy, but he casually shoots people dead. Jayne's a bad guy, no, he's a dumb guy, no, he's a self-serving guy; but wait! Didn't we see him anguishing over the fallen Kaylee? Everyone is noble, everyone is common. Everyone is unique and nobody colors inside the lines.

Quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Well, technically...
The dictionary definition of 'Pagan' is 'a religion which is not Abrahamic in origin' 'any religion that is not Christianity, Cathlolicsism, or Judaism' 'any polytheistic religion' etc etc etc. Kinda paraphrasing that, but to say that I'm Pagan takes in all those beleif systems not based on the bible, hence Buddhism is included...
No, I'm sure that just confused you more. Let's just leave it at this: Contemplative religions meld very well. There, ok. I'm going to bed.

Actually, I wasn't confused the first time around, but I was extremely intrigued by your particular "melding". 'Course you're just plain intriguing anyway. I find your openness and thoughtfulness so very refreshing.

But one more thing...It's only noon your time isn't it? going to bed at this hour?

"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 9:17 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS

long the same lines, one definition of Pagan is basically equivalent to being a country dweller (hick) or from the country or a rural district, used to make the Christians feel superior while using the current religions' holidays with new meaning.

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Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Why does everyone insist on coloring outside the lines?

What ?!?!? There are lines ?!?!?

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 9:18 AM

CHRISMOORHEAD

I was recently informed by a friend of mine that a book he had read on the comparative breakdown of religions made the claim that Buddhism is not so much it's own religion as an applicable philosophy.

Even though I'm Christian, I've read a great deal of Taoist, Confucian, and Buddhist texts. At the height of my "Samurai thing", as my friends refer to it, they would actually argue to me that I was not Christian because of how much I knew and practiced from Eastern religions. My fallback was that the only real deffinition of a Christian is someone who beleives in the divinity of Christ.

The entire nation of Japan claims Shintoism as it's native religion, but "Buddhist" would be the most likely answer you'd get from any Japanese person you asked. The reason for this dates back to the Nara period, 710 - 784, when Buddhism was made a permanent institution by Emperor Shomu. Later, during the Ashikaga Bakufu (1336 - 15...something), Shintoism was brought back into the national eye, and the two religions have co-existed ever since. Most Japanese Buddhists do, or used to, consider themselves to be Shintoist as well.

Also, don't get me started on the extreme differences between certain types of Buddhism. When I frist studied it, I thought it was devoid of gods and the like, but I've read several Japanese manuscripts refering to Buddhist hell, demons and magic.

[IMG]

Place my body on a ship and burn it on the sea,
Let my spirit rise, Valkiries carry me.
Take me to Valhalla where my brothers wait for me.
Fires burn into the sky, my spirit will never die.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 9:21 AM

I'd say I'm a both person too. I pretty much am an animal lover I guess. Though I've never owned a dog. Mainly cause I'm lazy. Which is why it sounds so funny to me that everyone is saying cat owners are staff workers. Cats are the most low maintenance pets I can think of. Change the liter and refill the water daily and fill up the gaint food dispenser maybe twice a month tops. Done and done. Dogs require walks probably twice a day at the least just so they can do their business. Tons of training when they're puppies. It's near impossible to control their barking. There's just no way I would be able to put up with all that on my own. Dogs seem like 50% chore 50% fun. Cats are more like 10% chore 70% fun 20% whatever they decide they want to do. In my experience at least.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 9:33 AM

KELKHIL

Nighty night PR!

JQ - PR works the midnight shift.

Cat or Dog person: Well I have 2 cats (mainly cuz the little one wanted one and he seemed so lonely so we got him a freind) I personally do not like cats. I would rather have a dog. But I am not really a dog person. I like exotic pets. I had a one time 5 ferrets an iguana and a ball python in my house before the little one was born. Now I have the python and 2 cats. The ferrets were not very child friendly so we had to get rid of them and the iguana was a grumpy little SOB so we got rid of him. My daughter loves the python. It is her favorite pet.

So how did we get talking abou religion?

Kelkhil

The Shirtless Forsaken

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 9:33 AM

MAVOURNEEN

Quote:
Originally posted by JonnyQuest:

But one more thing...It's only noon your time isn't it? going to bed at this hour?

Since I think PR is gone, I'll answer for her...

I do believe she works the night shift, JQ.

And to the main discussion right now...to anyone interested in the application of Zen/Buddhism/Taoism to Christianity, I would highly recommend a book called Zen Catholicism by Dom A. Graham - It's pretty dense stuff, but a wonderful exploration on how Zen can be understood to enhance the Christian understanding of God.
http://www.amazon.com/Zen-Catholicism-Dom-Alfred-Graham/dp/0824514254

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 9:34 AM

Zeek- having both dogs and cats I'd have to agree. Dogs are a great deal more work and trouble, but they're just so damn cute:)

CMH- I'd agree with the definition of a Christian as someone who believes in Christ and his teachings...so I think you can be both Christian and something else.

Jonny- I'm very changeable. It's part of my charm LOL Mostly I'm just a person who believes that all religions share pieces of the truth and that the only real requirement for the afterlife is that you were a person who tried to bring good to the world and is kind to all living things... but I'm weird that way

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 9:36 AM

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

Okay, the short version of my religion. *nods* to PhoenixRose and *winks* to RiverTwin; *bows* to the rest and sundry.

The is a verse in the Bible that says, "Thy Word is Truth." Most interpretations take that to mean the Bible is the (only) Truth (that gets you into Heaven). My read is a little different: if it's true, it's God's Word. So I'm a pan-religious buffet partaker. While I have Christian upbringing and higher euducation behind me, I freely sample the truth whatever the source. I understand what you mean CMH.

I'm an animal person. Cat, dog, baby bunny; I love 'em. Yappy little dogs and PEEPing birds not such a big fan. I consider the Gorilla my totem. Am I weird?

EDIT:
MsG, Get out of my head and quit stealing my ideas.
RE: PR. I knew that once. Damn I'm gettin' old. Forgettin' everything. Thanks Kelkhil. *still not speaking to Mavourneen, but would thank her if I was.*
I used to call myself a Zen Christian but there are two websites out there now claiming that title, neither like the other, and I wouldn't want people confused. In my view at that time, Christianity thaught the right way to get to Heaven and Buddhism taught the right way to live on Earth.

"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 9:54 AM

I love the term "applicable philosophy". But some sects of Christianity preach against philosophy, visions, and fortune telling. I'd always had a problem with that. Isn't it god who gave us free will? To explore the ideas and possibility of things is to be human. And of course ultimately Christianity is believing in the little baby Jesus. All eight pounds, six ounces of his holy goodness. Though I will not claim to be Christian, I will honestly say that God sent Jesus to show folks how to live. Even just looking at him as any other man, I believe in his teachings. His "applied philosophy".
Question: Buddist "hell" and "demons". Are these the spirit of bad things or bad lifepaths? Maybe the lack of the souls freedom after the body dies? Or maybe the angry things that hold on or attach themselves to others after the passing of ones body? Just curious.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 9:55 AM

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

Quote:
Originally posted by Kelkhil:
Nighty night PR!

JQ - PR works the midnight shift.

Cat or Dog person: Well I have 2 cats (mainly cuz the little one wanted one and he seemed so lonely so we got him a freind) I personally do not like cats. I would rather have a dog. But I am not really a dog person. I like exotic pets. I had a one time 5 ferrets an iguana and a ball python in my house before the little one was born. Now I have the python and 2 cats. The ferrets were not very child friendly so we had to get rid of them and the iguana was a grumpy little SOB so we got rid of him. My daughter loves the python. It is her favorite pet.

So how did we get talking abou religion?

Kelkhil

The Shirtless Forsaken

It's like this. I think Pagan like cats more and Christians like dogs more. Nothing scientific, just an observation...

"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 10:07 AM

Which explains why I like both:)

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 10:18 AM

RUGBUG

Howdy all! Been a bit since I've said hi...so hi again.

Thanks, NV, for coming looking for me. Things have been busy in real life so it has cut down on reading time.

Animals: I love both cats and dogs. But lately I've come to love OTHER people's cats and dogs. Other people's cats and dogs don't shed hair on my couch, or pee on my carpet or leave WMDs in my backyard. I'm down with OPP, yeah, you know me.

Religion: Well, it's not popular around here, but I'm pretty much the Christian many of you rant about.

I don't think Christianity can really be reconciled with other belief systems. Yes, there are some areas that overlap, but when you get right down to brass tacks, it's pretty hard to say you believe the bible is truth but other religions are just as true. 'Course, if you don't believe the bible is truth, then you're good.

However, all that said, I don't feel it's my place to preach to everyone I meet. I'm not a big fan of those types of Christians either. I do enjoy lively debate but only with willing participants. And let's be honest, no one really gets into a debate with someone they don't know thinking they are going to change their mind. The only people I think have ever really impacted my beliefs or thought processes have been close friends...people that know me and care about me.

And after the dropping that bombshell, I'm off.

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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 10:34 AM

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

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Originally posted by RugBug:
The only people I think have ever really impacted my beliefs or thought processes have been close friends...people that know me and care about me.

And after the dropping that bombshell, I'm off.

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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

...But, what about us?

And here I thought you were an Atheist, quoting Shaw and all ("bless his heart" for those less Northerly)...

"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 10:49 AM

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

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Originally posted by Mavourneen:
And to the main discussion right now...to anyone interested in the application of Zen/Buddhism/Taoism to Christianity, I would highly recommend a book called Zen Catholicism by Dom A. Graham - It's pretty dense stuff, but a wonderful exploration on how Zen can be understood to enhance the Christian understanding of God.
http ://www. amazon. com/Zen-Catholicism-Dom-Alfred-Graham/dp/0824514254

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 10:52 AM

Well then lady you're my kind of Christian... believe for yourself and not for others...big HUGS and I will say there are some days when I think other people should own my dogs ( like when they go into a braking frenzy late at night when there's nothing around or when they whine to go out for the 14th time that night just 'cause there's something nice to smell or see in the yard)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by RugBug:
Religion: Well, it's not popular around here, but I'm pretty much the Christian many of you rant about. I don't think Christianity can really be reconciled with other belief systems. Yes, there are some areas that overlap, but when you get right down to brass tacks, it's pretty hard to say you believe the bible is truth but other religions are just as true. 'Course, if you don't believe the bible is truth, then you're good.

You're not the only one. I'm catholic. I think I've said that before too. I think every major religion has it's bad members. They just tend to be the ones who stick out the most. I'm not too worried about public opinion of christians. Nor do I care what other people's religious beliefs are. Don't see how it affects me.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 10:53 AM

MAVOURNEEN

I saw that stuff too, JQ. But...

Quote:

--and you know what you did--

What did I do? :cornfused:

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 10:54 AM

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
Well then lady you're my kind of Christian... believe for yourself and not for others...big HUGS and I will say there are some days when I think other people should own my dogs ( like when they go into a braking frenzy late at night when there's nothing around or when they whine to go out for the 14th time that night just 'cause there's something nice to smell or see in the yard)

Got squirrels?

"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 11:01 AM

I'll see your squirrel and raise you a cat

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 11:06 AM

Well here's something to add to the cat person/dog person debate...proof positive that cats make lousy babysitters

and that cats are better to have with you in times of war

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 11:07 AM

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

Quote:
Originally posted by Mavourneen:

I saw that stuff too, JQ. But...

Quote:

--and you know what you did--

What did I do? :cornfused:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=24926&m=402850#402850

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 11:09 AM

CMH- remember our little discussion of football helmets?? I think I may have found a good substitute

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 11:23 AM

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
You're not the only one. I'm catholic. I think I've said that before too. I think every major religion has it's bad members. They just tend to be the ones who stick out the most. I'm not too worried about public opinion of christians. Nor do I care what other people's religious beliefs are. Don't see how it affects me.

*Channels Kaneman* Who told you Catholics were Christians?

EDIT: Aww, come out and play, Zeek. I was only kidding.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 11:49 AM

Oh why is it only Wednesday?? Why?

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 11:51 AM

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

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Originally posted by msg:
Oh why is it only Wednesday?? Why?

Jeez, MsG. Thought you liked hump day.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Who told you Catholics were Christians?

Jesus

Him or Stephen Colbert. I have a hard time telling the difference. I'm pretty sure they're the same guy.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 12:16 PM

I always consider a day done once it starts. There is nothing you can take back from that point on so why consider it a remaining day. Thursday is pretty much here so don't fret MSG.

I spent my lunch at the GND's house. I guess there were some dogs bothering the horses and the locker key is with her stepdad at work. I guess I have a small re-curring issue with her. We're friends and all, and it seems to be staying in a fairly stable spot, but...
I guess I'm really tryin' not to get too close to her after the Ms. Inedible debaucle. She knows all about it after this weekend. While we played pool in Ione (a small Central Nevada mining town) while her dad and Uncle drank a few beers so we talked alot before driving seperate vehicles home.
I pushed something out of my mind for a few weeks. When I got back from the hunting trip she showed up with my sister and my goofy sister mentioned that she (GND) wanted to give me a hug but I was covered in blood and other wonderful things.
Just a bit confused about some things. I really don't wanna just shift affections. I want them to be true and lasting. But seein' as my heart and mind are still all in a jumble I can't quite see thing s clearly.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 12:49 PM

Jumpin' in for my daily, its almost three so I better bump the thread 'cause I like seein' the ponderers on top so it ssems I just swing that way 'cause thats the way I am So if you don't like it go elsewhere for your pondering needs for we like not too much drama but put up with it for the sake of our fellow Browncoats who show their love in varying ways

BUMP.

Damn I'm bored. Guess I could get some work done but what fun is that?

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 1:29 PM

Tough call on GND. I guess only you know how you really feel. You must enjoy spending time with her though if you wanted to have lunch with her. That's a point on the go for it side. Don't know if that outweighs the reboundiness from Ms. Incredible though. We need more info for the pros and cons list.

I don't know if the convenience factor is a pro or a con. I mean you don't have to worry about long distance at all. But then is that just cause it's convenient or because it's real. Again you have to make the call I guess.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 2:10 PM

And thats why I love all you wonderful Browncoats. The truth factor is usually very good in these parts. I never thought of the convinience factor. She does alot of stuff and isn't always available. But she rarely says she's too busy to hang out. And she seems to pay attention to what I'm doing so that she knows when I'm available. I figure I'm gonna ask me why she misses me when I am gone or vice versa because I do notice it. Not to mention she's off tomorrow evening for a rodeo and I'm really curious about it.
So as for convinience, I really can't tell right now. She's been semi-dating a few fellas but they seem to take a back burner to her friends and family. That may or may not be a good thing.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 2:19 PM

LITTLEALBATROSS29

Hey there Ponderers,

I trust everyones Halloween went well ? I sure hope so.Dylan & Sean came home with more candty than they can ever eat.The neighborhood really goes all out with decorations & the like.I even got wine From one house.
And with some courage ,I posted my pic from yesterday on the Film companion thread

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=24897&m=403591#403591

NV - it sounds like she digs you & that you're wary of retuning the feeling.Which is understandable .Be careful of the convience factor though , my ex-best friend lives next door to me & now that we're not friends it's akward to see her all the time.And trust your instincts.You'll know what's right.

Bryce
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I swallowed a bug.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 2:32 PM

CHRISMOORHEAD

Mavourneen - Book sounds interesting, but I'm currently caught between three others. I'll try and remember it for the future, though.

NVG - There's certain sects of all religions that beleive there's no room for others. Certain forms of Christianity beleive that other forms are just as wrong as paganism. But I think that for intents and purposes, reasonable people can agree on reasonable deffinitions. Christianity, having the word "Christ" in the title, can most clearly be deffined as those who worship God through Christ. To me, this says that no matter what else you beleive, that you are a Christian. Even if that means you're a Buddhist Christian, or a Wiccan Hebrew Christian Taoist, it's at least a part of you. For myself, since I consider God through Christ to be the "core" of my beleifs, I just use the term "Christian", with the occasional "Non-demoninational".

The Buddhist demons and hell were indeed representative of evils and the state of mind you fall into because of them, respectively, but they were still personified. That in itself defies what I learned of as proper Buddhism, but it was never really my intent to say the religion contridicted itself, just that it has different variations and applications, the same way Christianity does.

MSG - That cat looks like Magneto. And is that a lime? How did they get a lime to fit on a cat's head?

And y'know, a lot of people have commented about how cats own their masters more than vice versa, but I don't see cats dressing their masters up like jackasses then pasting pictures up all over the internet.

Finally, back to NVG real quick: Here's a bit of romantic advice from probably THE most informed guy you'll ever meet...

Give up on her and resolve yourself to die old and alone.

Ahh, and now you see why I don't usually join in on the romantic discussions.

[IMG]

Place my body on a ship and burn it on the sea,
Let my spirit rise, Valkiries carry me.
Take me to Valhalla where my brothers wait for me.
Fires burn into the sky, my spirit will never die.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 2:40 PM

And thats why CMH is seriously being considered for the list of Heroes. On one hand it is easy to take your response to the GND episode seriously. On the other I just laughed out loud and thats cool.

I was curious about the Buddhist Hell/demon thing because they, like many other beliefs, shadow my own. I think there are subtle contradictions in all religions, but the faith factor always seems to be paramount. And like guts, faith is enough.

I'm gone for the day folks. Glad to hear from y'all. Love and hugs all around.
'Night.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 3:25 PM

DANCINGNEKO

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Originally posted by msg:
Oh why is it only Wednesday?? Why?

Jeez, MsG. Thought you liked hump day.

I think it was she likes hump day...

MsG: So I'm not the only one who thinks that it should be Friday afternoon?...('course, I've been asking "Is it Friday yet?" since 10:00 a.m. on Monday

-- shows you what kind of week it's been.) *hugs MsG* It'll get better...or we can terrorize a few of them

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