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Male and Female Imponderables-A ramblin man

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 6:51 AM

MSG


Ok new thread:)




Should you need to visit the past
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=24962&m=403979#403979

So welcome to sunny downtown This Land

Today we are a ponderin the joys of pet ownership..Rugbug commence with the horse stories

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 6:52 AM

ZEEK


Mine!

Edit: Yay!! First Firstiness ever!!! I wins!!!

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 6:53 AM

CHRISMOORHEAD


Excellent title. Am I not the only one here who likes redneck music?

[IMG]
Place my body on a ship and burn it on the sea,
Let my spirit rise, Valkiries carry me.
Take me to Valhalla where my brothers wait for me.
Fires burn into the sky, my spirit will never die.

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 6:55 AM

MSG


For some reason when I saw that dog pic the song just started in my head. My dad's a big fan of folk music and old contry and western and he used to play it on his guitar so....( yes I am a serious daddy's girl and proud of it)

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 7:02 AM

ZEEK


I'm going to go ahead and carry over my question from the previous thread. Anybody have any ideas for constructing cat costumes? I want to make my kitty a battle cat (He-man's cat) costume for next halloween. I figure with a year to work on it I should be able to get something going there.

Pretty much the costume would be a cat hat that's basically a roaring lion thing and then a cat saddle for He-man. The toy version is just moulded plastic. Maybe some sort of aluminum foil recreation and then covered in melted candle wax to get the proper color? I'm no arts and crafts man though so that might be totally impossible.

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 7:03 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:
Excellent title. Am I not the only one here who likes redneck music?


Depends on how deep the red goes. Up in the Thumb of Michigan where and when I grew up (and I have no reason to believe it's changed) Country (/Western) was all there was for the most part. Rock and Roll generally came from from the bigger radio stations further away in the "big" cities. And of course TV, but that wasn't a 24/7 thing until the MTV years. Polka of course had its place too but to a MUCH smaller degree.

I'm not real fond of the Twang Thang of a lot of early Country, but I can tolerate it for short spells. But the mellow Country tunes I don't mind at all. I also like Bluegrass. At the other end of the spectrum I can only stand Rap in short doses, but I like Hip Hop.


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Thursday, November 2, 2006 7:03 AM

CHRISMOORHEAD


Awesome-ness. Does he ever break into Johnny Cash, Kenny Rogers, Hank Williams Sr.? Y'know, I could swear my dad had a guitar at one time, but now all he's got are... guns. His is the only house I've ever been in that actually has a shotgun as a mantlepeice.

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Place my body on a ship and burn it on the sea,
Let my spirit rise, Valkiries carry me.
Take me to Valhalla where my brothers wait for me.
Fires burn into the sky, my spirit will never die.

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 7:05 AM

MSG


Go to the craft store. Buy flexible polyfoam in the correct color and some sticy velcro. Cut out saddle and girth ( strap that goes around tummy) Cut two pieces of velcro and place on girth. Place saddle on cat's back and fasten velcro girth around belly...wait for cat to attack you... go to hospital and recieve transfusion for massive blood loss

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 7:13 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Go to the craft store. Buy flexible polyfoam in the correct color and some sticy velcro. Cut out saddle and girth ( strap that goes around tummy) Cut two pieces of velcro and place on girth. Place saddle on cat's back and fasten velcro girth around belly...wait for cat to attack you... go to hospital and recieve transfusion for massive blood loss


No kidding. In my experience cat's are not particularly fond of having things "applied" to them. One of my favorite "harmless" cat tortures involves simply placing a wet (for clinginess and added weight) washcloth on their back, and watch 'em go.

As for the helmet, the melonhead that MsG posted earlier shows some promise with the right decoration...


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Thursday, November 2, 2006 7:15 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29


Zeek ,
You can look into doll clohting for kitty sized clothes , but battle cat ? That might be difficult.And even if you manage the feat of dressing the poor kitty up ,will he allow you to live ?

I am a strict cat person.I've had as many as 9 at once.Yes I was the cat lady.They have all since passed.It was like having a small pride of lions, with a heirarchy & everything.

CMH - you would have loved the King of my pride.He battled like a true warrior , had inceredible fightimg tactics & when he got older he kept the others in line with just a look.He was amazing to watch. A perfect alpha male in action. OH and I love Patsy Cline , does she count ?

I also worked in a vet's office & hate the smell of dog ever since.

Bryce
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I swallowed a bug.

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 7:22 AM

MSG


Here's some kitty costume links. Maybe you can find something appropriate
http://spoiledrottenkitties.com/costumes.htm
http://www.costumesinc.com/pet_costumes_costumes_for_your_dog_costumes
.cfm


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Thursday, November 2, 2006 7:22 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Moved from previous thread

Another fine drisly morning to all. I love moist mornings.

So to clear things up JQ: Mindy is my bestest friend in the whole world. I've known her for over ten years. She lives in San Diego with her three kids and husband who is in the Navy. See folks, I don't have a bad opinion of all squids. Just douchebaggy ones.

Ms. Incoherant is someone I'd worked with and seemed to have a connection with but still unsure of what the hell was actually going on. Written off like a bad cell phone bill.

GND- Yes, Girl Next Door. I've known her on and off since her mom married our neighbor who I've known most of my life. He'd been related by marriage previously, but my aunt committed suicide after a few years. He'd been alone for a few years before GND's mother came along (she's a bit off her nut but she loves him and cares about everyone). So the dilemma is the age and friend thing. But I think thats pretty much off my mind as ther are more pressing issues I need to focus on.

Funny note: John Wayne Bobbit actually lived here in Fallon a few years back. I never met him, but from what I hear he was truly worthy of the penis chopping.

So, returning to the previous task. I really feel I do have feelings toward her. But she is young and has plenty of time and opportunity to find someone younger, better looking, and richer. The way I see it, if she is willing to try, than why not. I can wait as long as it takes as long as I have assurance that there is love in return. I too have passed on a lot and feel it was a greater mistake not to try.

I guess thats enough of my long windyness. I just feel a little chatty this morning. She's off to a rodeo this evening and I have a class Friday evening so I was unable to go with. Figured I'd take the afternoon off to attend a bank meeting and maybe spend some time with her before she goes.

And yes Patsy counts. I feel an Ol' Hank song formin' in my head.



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Thursday, November 2, 2006 7:24 AM

CHRISMOORHEAD


An exerpt from the first draft of a flier my friend's working on...

Quote:


This November…
Be prepared…
For the greatest…
Fight…
Ever.

CLASH OF THE ARMY TITANS!!!

For years, they’ve been at odds. The MP Master, HOMELESS GUY, DANNY GROVE, and the Maniac-All Star, the SUPERB SEVENTH SLASHER, CHRIS MOORHEAD!

Come and watch a contest of astronomical proportions FIVE YEARS IN THE MAKING!

Chris Moorhead: I’M GONNA KILL THAT MOTHERF*CKER! THIS IS A GRUDGE MATCH, BITCHES, TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN SURVIVES! HOO-YAH!

Danny Grove: I don’t know what that lunatic’s talking about. He’s been trying to goad me into fighting him for 5 years and I finally just gave in. There’s no grudge.

Chris Moorhead: WE SHALL MEET ON THE ANCIENT GROUNDS OF BATTLE AND FIGHT AS OUR FATHERS DID: NAKED, AS WE WERE BORN BEFORE THE GODS!

Danny Grove: There’s no way I’m fighting naked.

Chris Moorhead: …AND POSSIBLY COVERED IN SENSUAL OILS, FOR THAT REAL MANLY FEELING!

Danny Grove: That sh*t’s gay, and definitely not happening.

Chris Moorhead: YOU HEARD ‘EM, FOLKS, BAREKNUCKLE BRAWLING IT IS!

Danny Grove: What!?

…We’ll have the kinks worked out in a couple of days…



There will be pictures, and possibly video to accompany.

[IMG]
Place my body on a ship and burn it on the sea,
Let my spirit rise, Valkiries carry me.
Take me to Valhalla where my brothers wait for me.
Fires burn into the sky, my spirit will never die.

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 7:27 AM

MSG


Umm ok I'll just say be careful, wear a mouth guard, and try not to telegraph your punches...

Also tough guy is a relative term



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Thursday, November 2, 2006 7:27 AM

ZEEK


My kitty wouldn't hurt a fly. Litterally I think she'd just stalk it all day and pat it on the head for grins. She'd let me dress her up no problem. Not that she'd enjoy it, but since she's lived in a totally controlled environment where she's never been hurt, I think she's forgotten that she can defend herself.

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 7:49 AM

MSG


This is for you Rugbug:) Alternative to your horse.


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Thursday, November 2, 2006 7:49 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I can't stop giggling like a fat kid in a pie factory. Seein as I'm pretty much a fat kid... well, I think ya know the rest.

And I guess tough guy is a fairly realative term. I wish I had leashes for some of the kids that came through here.



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Thursday, November 2, 2006 7:50 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:
Excellent title. Am I not the only one here who likes redneck music?



I was brought up and am still an avid fan of southern and classic rock. Allman Brothers, Steve Miller Band, The Eagles, Marshall Tucker, The Doobie Brothers, Lynard Skynard, etc.



MSG - Great description of the results of trying to apply a costume to the kitty. Hope they don't have a rare blood type.

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 7:56 AM

MSG


LOl I just know mine won't even wear collars so I can just picture what they'd do if I put a costume on them...eeeeeeeeeeeek

However apparently you can train pets to do anything


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Thursday, November 2, 2006 8:07 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
This is for you Rugbug:) Alternative to your horse.


Okay I need something. And quick. I did the slow scroll down and it actually took my a second (time it: a second is longer than you think...) to figure out what was wrong with this picture. Anyone going to the Pub? I think I'll need a driver.


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Thursday, November 2, 2006 8:11 AM

MSG


Right now I think I need a mallet... sorry 4th period again tries my patience. We are now doing something called " quiet time" where they have to prove they can work silently for 10 minutes. And my stupid word search generator made a wordsearch with the f word in it so this is going really well. Between the giggles and the comments....#$$#^^&$%##$%^@#$%

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 8:23 AM

RUGBUG


Oh man,

I'm gonna be scarred for life from that picture. Wiener dog madness.

Why is it when I get permission to talk about my pony that I can't think of anything to say? How 'bout this: SOB is on my list right now. He flipped my arm up with his nose the other day and I've been in so much pain since I'm actually going back to the doctor. Grrrrr. I'm gonna cry big crocodile tears if I'm re-injured after all this time.

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 8:29 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Sorry about the possible re-injury. It really sucks when an animal does something that we could throttle a person for. Not that I'm suggseting violent action, but tell him how you feel. I know there is a language differance, but it might make you feel better.



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Thursday, November 2, 2006 9:32 AM

RUGBUG


Oh, NVG, I let him know. ;)

My theory is that we can't do nearly the damage horses do to each other. Now, this wasn't a horrible offense, it just hurt me a lot because I'm already injured. It did earn a big growl and a sizeble smack on the neck.

But let me tell you: That sucker raises his foot to kick me (or even at something, flies perhaps, when I'm in the general area) or tries to bite me, he's in for it. He gets a little 'Come to Jesus' moment and then it's right back to business as usual. The right timing and three seconds of thinking the world is gonna end keeps many animals on their best behaviour.

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 9:33 AM

MSG


I know I sometimes wish I had an animal translator so I could yell at my cats or dogs when they do something that really hurts... Big hugs Rugbug I hope you're ok.

So have you been training or just riding for fun? How high can your baby jump? Can you switch leads while cantering?

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 9:34 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Does that apply to men as well?



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Thursday, November 2, 2006 9:44 AM

MSG


LOL NV- No I speak grunt:)

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 9:50 AM

CHRISMOORHEAD


LittleAlbatross29 - I love watching cats fight, especially over catnip. Never really seen one take charge of his pride as if he were a lion or something, but it sounds mighty cool to watch.

My friend used to have this pair of cats, Shadow and Rooster. Shadow was an all black-stealth-ninja feline. He could perch himself on the head of the couch right next to you without you realizing it. Rooster was the bigger more powerful one, and since Shadow belonged to my friend's dad and Rooster belonged to my friend, Rooster considered my friend's room his "domain". This resulted in many an epic battle. None of the other cats ever "beat" Rooster, they just got past him for a second or two.

MSG - So is "intelligent" and just about any other descriptive title you could thrust on someone. I'm certainly not of the mind that goomba's can't have a soft side. In all honesty, I consider myself the most truly romantic person out of anyone I've ever met. Thing is, what I call romantic, others call insane, so even that's a relative term.

By the by, love the photograph. I bet that dude keeps a chihuahua in a basket on the side of his chopper.

Riverismygoddess - Excellent selections. You ever get into Molly Hatchet, or is that a little too white trash for you?

RugBug - Same friend I mentioned before with the cats has a tradition of riding the most stubborn horses he can find. Off the top of my head, I can remember stories of one riding him strait into a tree branch, one that bucked him onto his face, and another that kicked him. This might be common for people who ride horses regularly, but he doesn't. Pretty much anytime he's gotten on a horse, it's abused him.

We nicknamed him "Mongo" because he punches them in retalliation.

I used to ride horses back when I was like... 5. I think I actually got some photos of it. If I can find em, I'll get em online. Nice to see that someone around here has the time and money to be an equestrian.

[IMG]
Place my body on a ship and burn it on the sea,
Let my spirit rise, Valkiries carry me.
Take me to Valhalla where my brothers wait for me.
Fires burn into the sky, my spirit will never die.

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 9:56 AM

MSG


CMH- We have an all black ninja cat too ( named Lovecraft) and he's kinda surly, but a great cat Yeah I thought that photo was hilarious.Nice to see a guy secure enough to walk frou frou dogs:) Though for your friend who rides, I reccomend carrots. Hitting an animal only teaches it to fear you not to respect and cooperate with you and with horses fear just makes them skittish and unrideable. He should try treats for good behavior


Ok and you have to try this website

http://www.cybersalt.org/content/view/1626/265/

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 10:05 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
So to clear things up JQ: Mindy is my bestest friend in the whole world. I've known her for over ten years. She lives in San Diego with her three kids and husband who is in the Navy. See folks, I don't have a bad opinion of all squids. Just douchebaggy ones.

Ms. Incoherant is someone I'd worked with and seemed to have a connection with but still unsure of what the hell was actually going on. Written off like a bad cell phone bill.

GND- Yes, Girl Next Door. I've known her on and off since her mom married our neighbor who I've known most of my life. He'd been related by marriage previously, but my aunt committed suicide after a few years. He'd been alone for a few years before GND's mother came along (she's a bit off her nut but she loves him and cares about everyone). So the dilemma is the age and friend thing. But I think thats pretty much off my mind as ther are more pressing issues I need to focus on.

So, returning to the previous task. I really feel I do have feelings toward her. But she is young and has plenty of time and opportunity to find someone younger, better looking, and richer. The way I see it, if she is willing to try, than why not. I can wait as long as it takes as long as I have assurance that there is love in return. I too have passed on a lot and feel it was a greater mistake not to try.


Thank you for some more background. I hate giving advice when it's neither asked for nor well-informed.

Doh! How did I not know "Girl Next Door"? (In my head I kept saying "Gund":

...but I knew that wasn't right. I just couldn't get past it.)


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Thursday, November 2, 2006 10:09 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
So have you been training or just riding for fun? How high can your baby jump? Can you switch leads while cantering?




Well, all my rides are "training." That's what I find pleasure in, so.... I've never really like trail riding, only do it for my horse's sanity. But to tell you the truth, he doesn't like it much either. He's a big scaredy-cat dressed up like a horse.

Show jumps about 3' with the trainer. Could do more, but there's no need to ask him to, as of yet. I've only jumped him 2'9" and right now we're doing 2', 2'3" on a good day. Heh.

We can do flying lead changes, simple lead changes, some lateral work like renvers, travers, shoulders in, haunches in. We've got turns on the haunches and turns on the forehand (although he gets very fussy about those...have to ask him just so or he pitches a hissy fit). We've got counter canter. Halt is in there somewhere, but for a horse who doesn't like to go forward, he sure doesn't like to stop all that much either.

Flying lead changes are the most fun, he gets all bouncy sometimes (actually flying changes are part of what lead up to my injury). We are having a little issue with them right now. We changed bits, and he likes the change, but it's a different feel so the cues are a little off. We're getting it back, though.

And look at that. MSG opens the floodgate of horse talk. Hehe.

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 10:11 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Glad to help with the background info. There are a few factors not discussed on the board (lurkers and all).



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Thursday, November 2, 2006 10:14 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Horse talk is well appreciated. Whore talk on the other hand...



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Thursday, November 2, 2006 10:16 AM

MAVOURNEEN


That Gund bear is the exact bear I got from an old boyfriend, carried with me thru college, sat on a shelf for a few years, and now is a fav bedtime pal of my son's.

I wish I liked horses more. Pictures are beautiful, but when I get around them I freeze up. They are too big, too powerful. I get nervous and can't enjoy how beautiful I know they are.

Anyone seen Tristan today?


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Thursday, November 2, 2006 10:19 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I was fixin' to ask the same thing. Haven't heard anything today at all.



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Thursday, November 2, 2006 10:21 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:
Pretty much anytime he's gotten on a horse, it's abused him.

We nicknamed him "Mongo" because he punches them in retalliation.



It sounds like he shouldn't be around horses. They can be stupid, but if you know what you're dealing with, their behaviour is fairly predictable. They definitely need to be handled according to their rules, not our's.

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:
Nice to see that someone around here has the time and money to be an equestrian.



Thanks. You can liken it to your passion about weapons/military/survival. My passion is horses and life is empty if horses aren't a major part. I always say I would be doing very well for myself if I didn't own my horse.

Mavourneen: the trick is remembering that while they are big and powerful, they are prey animals. They runaway first, ask questions later. So, you just have to establish yourself as the dominant one. Just like with dogs, you've got to be the pack/herd leader. The horse will take its cues from you. It crowds you and you let it, it will only do it more. You put the "pressure" on to back out of your space, it will. The amount of pressure for each horse is different depending on their temperament and some test more than others, but if you stand your ground your good. If you ever watch The Dog Whisperer, calm assertiveness works on horses, too.

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 10:21 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
There are a few factors not discussed on the board (lurkers and all).


Amen! They shouldn't be. Truth be told, I'm just happy you trust me as much as you do considering that I kinda just dropped in out of the black one day. Appreciate it.


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Thursday, November 2, 2006 10:37 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by Mavourneen:
That Gund bear is the exact bear I got from an old boyfriend, carried with me thru college, sat on a shelf for a few years, and now is a fav bedtime pal of my son's.


Got my wife the very same one.
Quote:

Anyone seen Tristan today?

Not anywhere I've been. And his posts yesterday were really short ones. (still glad he checked in...)


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Thursday, November 2, 2006 11:23 AM

MSG


Hey was perusing the Reader's Digest online and found this...made me laugh. It was in their Life in these United States... Just wanted to clarify this isn't me
I am five feet, three inches tall and pleasingly plump. After I had a minor accident, my mother accompanied me to the emergency room. The triage nurse asked for my height and weight, and I blurted out, "Five-foot-eight and 125 pounds." While the nurse pondered this information, my mother leaned over to me. "Sweetheart," she gently chided, "this is not the Internet."

— Joke contributed by M. M.


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Thursday, November 2, 2006 11:35 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
He flipped my arm up with his nose the other day and I've been in so much pain since I'm actually going back to the doctor. Grrrrr. I'm gonna cry big crocodile tears if I'm re-injured after all this time.


My wife's dog, Sully, resident alpha, does the same thing to my crotch. Most other dogs are quite content with a passing whiff of That Which Cannot Be Seen. Sully goes the extra mile in very horselike fashion. I sympathize with your arm.


"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 11:45 AM

CHRISMOORHEAD


Actually my interest in military affairs began with more anachronistic incarnations of it. The budokai that I used to study at taught bajutsu, Japanese horsemanship, starting at renshi ni-kyu. I was one step below that when I left. But I've always had an interest in military horsemanship in all of it's variations. Most Eastern countries were big users of horseback archery, while in the West everyone knows about the medieval knight and his lance (jousting, etc.). But during the Revolutionary War, you had the English Dragoons, the Civil War had it's U.S. cavalry using sabres and revolvers, and even the Polish used cavalrymen armed with rifles during WW2.

The horse has long been a status symbol for the warrior. Knights in Europe were not considered to be knights if they owned no horse, and Yamamoto Tsunetomo said "A Samurai without armour or a horse is no Samurai at all". Dating even back to the time of Alexander the Great and his beloved Bucepheles, you can see how well true military men treated and how highly they regarded theirs steeds. I once heard that Alexander even had a city in India named after his horse when it finally died.

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Take me to Valhalla where my brothers wait for me.
Fires burn into the sky, my spirit will never die.

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 11:52 AM

TRISTAN


Afternoon, all...boy, this job is really getting in the way of posting here....
Sorry I missed everyone today. I'll try to get caught up in the next few days. *sigh*

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 12:00 PM

MSG


Hey all:) Have to bail for the evening for a marathon (day before the end of term) tutoring session. I will see y'all tomorrow. Have a lovely rest of the day and big hugs to Magda( who will likely appear after hours:)

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 12:20 PM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:

The horse has long been a status symbol for the warrior. Knights in Europe were not considered to be knights if they owned no horse, and Yamamoto Tsunetomo said "A Samurai without armour or a horse is no Samurai at all". Dating even back to the time of Alexander the Great and his beloved Bucepheles, you can see how well true military men treated and how highly they regarded theirs steeds. I once heard that Alexander even had a city in India named after his horse when it finally died.




Alexander the Great and Bucephalus were "students" of Xenophon who is agreed to be the first to use classical training methods on horses for military purposes. Many of his methods are still subscribed to today. As any competitive equestrian today worth his salt can attest to, you are only as good as your horse.

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 12:34 PM

CHRISMOORHEAD


Forgive me my assumptions, but I would have never thought that you knew about Xenophon's "On Horsemanship". My mother and father both did English horseback riding, for show and fox hunting, and neither one of them knew anything about it.

I was actually going to ask you in my previous message if you knew anything about the subject, but I thought you probably didn't. But since we're there already, you wouldn't happen to know anything more, would you?

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Take me to Valhalla where my brothers wait for me.
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Thursday, November 2, 2006 12:53 PM

RUGBUG


CMH, what do you want to know? I mostly only know the horse stuff, because that is what interests me....

I'm surprised that you're family members didn't in the very least know the name. I've know it since I was a kid. I'll have to conduct a little test to see how many of my barnmates know of Xenophon. I'm sure the sullen teenagers don't, 'cause they're, you know, sullen. But I would think most of the adults do. At least those who've been into horses for any length of time.

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 1:20 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I just happened back in from luch and who should I miss...

TRISTAN!!! Man hugs. Hope to catch ya tomorrow.

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Thursday, November 2, 2006 2:49 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Well folks, I'm pretty much done gone bye-bye for the day. Probably be in late in the morrow so y'all have a good night.



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Thursday, November 2, 2006 3:21 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Hello all! My beauty is... ah... well I slept OK?

NVG - So I was right about GND... I think you're on the right track! Is an Aussie girly-hug OK? (I don't really qualify for man-hugs)

Little Albatross!!!! I totally love and adore Patsy Cline!! My friends just don't get it - but I do!!

Just when I thought you'd forgotten us Tristan - that is just wrong... why does 'Real Life' get in the way of the FFFfamily time?




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Thursday, November 2, 2006 3:22 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Oh no! Double post! I guess I'll just have to... errrr....

... and enough money to fly all my friends from FFF.net to Dragon*Con next August!




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