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Originally posted by IrishBrowncoat:
hi
first time posting on this webpage.

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Originally posted by IrishBrowncoat:
Is there still hope???

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Originally posted by IrishBrowncoat:
but the money men have done their counting and i think i read some were even the great and almighty joss has said that there was no planned sequels..

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Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:
that last part reminds me of a quote:

"When your shot is exhausted, knock down the enemy with the stock of your rifle. If the rifle stock be broken, bite with your teeth."

It's like no matter how bad things look, Browncoats are still teetering on things like, "Hey, we could win the lottery!"

It's beautiful.

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Originally posted by Anonymous1:
And then don't forget...some of us play the lottery.

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This weekend I was channel surfing, and on SciFi they aired "Carnosaur" followed by "Carnosaur 2".

I thought, they greenlight crap like Carn 1 and have the audacity to greenlight Carn 2.....and meanwhile we can't get ANY GORRAM FIREFLY???

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Can answer this. Sci-Fi typically shoot their direct-to-TV movies in foreign countries like Romania, for a budget of around $100,000 or so. Example: last years movie "Mammoth" with Summer Glau was shot in Romania for peanuts.

To construct the Serenity set you're looking at about 50 times that amount, and then you have the actors salaries, crew, writing, producing, computer graphics etc on top of that. You need about $6m or so initial investment, and $2m an episode budget, for something like Firefly. Which is, pretty obviously, about 100 times the amount "Carnosaur 2" would cost.

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Originally posted by pinballwizard:
If they made "Son of the Mask," "XXX," and "Star Trek: Nemisis" they'll make a sequal. We just need to keep it alive and growing.

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"'Babylon 5: The Lost Tales' is a direct-to-DVD project based on the popular series from the mid-1990s. Lost Tales first DVD, titled 'Voices of the Dark' has now begun production. As usual, J. Michael Straczynski and Doug Netter will be running the show with Straczynski directing. The characters, President John Sheridan (Boxleitner), Captain Elizabeth Lochley (Scoggins) and the technomage Galen (Woodward) are returning. The Lost Tales is an anthology series of sorts with two movies (previously three) per DVD starting in 2007. "

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However, Firefly on DVD has likely sold into the millions, with almost no promotion from the studio (seriously, has anybody ever seen a Firefly DVD set advert)?

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Originally posted by WhoIsRiver:
What hope does Sereifly have? Direct to DVD movies."

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The 'Can't Stop The Serenity' screenings for Equality Now were an unqualified success. Organizers held events in 47 cities around the world, raising over $65,000 for the women's rights advocacy group.

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And there can also be select city releases. Also there are several theater owners around the US and UK who know Browncoats will show up.

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Originally posted by Smitty1919:


FOX OWNING THE RIGHTS MEANS VERY LITTLE. THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN THE SERIES AND HAVE NO NEED TO HOLD ON TO RIGHTS THAT THEY WILL NEVER USE TO TURN A PROFIT WITH ANYWAYS.

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Originally posted by Smitty1919:


FOX OWNING THE RIGHTS MEANS VERY LITTLE. THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN THE SERIES AND HAVE NO NEED TO HOLD ON TO RIGHTS THAT THEY WILL NEVER USE TO TURN A PROFIT WITH ANYWAYS.

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Smitty , there's always more than one way for something to get done .

Sci-Fi is a very small network with big parents . If you only have new Firefly content on the Sci-Fi network , then you are automatically limiting the demographic . Firefly is premium content that breaks the Sci-Fi mold and appeals to much more than just the uber-geek fanboy following . Firefly appeals to an incredible range of fans , from say , about 7-years-old up to about 77 . Plus the show attracts viewers that would not typically choose a science-fiction program . A lot of females choose to watch Firefly , but a more typical science-fiction demographic skews more heavily male .

We've got lots of options .

Fox owning the rights actually means a lot . If someone decides to make new Firefly content for television , Fox can be persuaded to cash in that chip . Perhaps with a profit-sharing arrangement whereby they don't charge the full market price for the series rights up front , but take some percentage points of the subsequent DVD sales of the series once it is re-established .

This is Hollywood we're talking about . Deals will get made , so long as there is cashy money to be had .

Since Firefly is premium content , it would be best located on a premium network with a paying subscriber base . HBO or Showtime could get it done . HBO spent around 75 million dollars to produce " From The Earth To The Moon " . Tom Hanks was behind it , because after
" Apollo 13 " , he still felt that there were lots of untold stories remaining from the Apollo missions to the moon .

Seventy-five megabucks would be more than sufficient to produce a Firefly mini-series of about 14 hours in length . Likely it could be done for substantially less , maybe even only 50 million . Only about twice the cost of the Serenity movie , but enough new Firefly for a new " episode " of the mini-series to be shown every night for a week during its premiere time .
Then , those episodes could be parsed out to be re-shown , as a weekly series of episodes to be run for 7 weeks .

Then , prior to the next season's Firefly premiere , the " mini-series " format would be run again in a marathon session , to allow folk to catch up , if they'd missed any episodes .

The advantages :

1) We get lots of fresh , new Firefly content with production values probably on par with a feature film , but we get a " seasons worth " of shows , enough to make a second Firefly boxset .

2) The network gets to sign on lots of new Browncoat subscribers .

3) Firefly develops a larger following across a broad demographic , from people who already subscribe to the premium network .

4) Firefly finally gets some well-deserved notice and wins some Emmy awards .

5) The B.D. Heroes get to film the mini-series within a timeframe of maybe 90-100 days , which still allows them plenty of time to devote to other projects .

6) The Firefly series continues year after year and gains in popularity , becoming known to a huge number of households in the United States alone .

7) The network re-sells the show to its partners in overseas markets .

8) So many new Browncoats are being made that eventual demand requires new FF/Serenity feature films be made once every 2-3 years .

There are lots of other advantages , like increased merchandising , for example , that are not even considered at the moment .

If anyone thinks of other advantages to a plan like this , feel free to add your own thoughts .

Keep the Faith . Share the Love . Feel the Joy !

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Originally posted by WhoIsRiver:
What hope does Sereifly have? Direct to DVD movies.

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