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Originally posted by Doran:
You know I wouldn't put it past Joss to have stuck that in there on purpose; he's so good at irony and very subtle foreshadow. He often goes the extra mile and throws things for the one or two people in the audience clever enough to catch them.

I notice in "Serenity" Kaylee mentions she wants to replace the whole compression coil which would include the now infamous catalyzer; she warns," "if it blows we're drifting". I'll bet Mal wishes he'd listened to her now.

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Originally posted by CapnRahn:
You know what the other funny thing is...

... that prop looks EXACTLY like a desiccant (absorbs moisture) unit for a B-52 doppler radar unit waveguide.

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In this case, it doesn't really make any sense for Wash to throw it away unless he didn't know what it was

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Originally posted by Static:
Nooooooooooooooooo. . .

YOU'RE thinking of the 'synchronizers' that Kaylee found. And the Catalyzer. . .from what I can see of it, appears to be part of a SDC (shaft-driven compressor) unit from a CH-53 helicopter. And I'm sure any of you military-type aviation-type enthusiasts noticed that body of the Space Ambulance (Spambulance? Ewwwwwwwwwwwww.) is actually an Mi-24 HIND (D). . .an old Soviet Gunship/Troop Transport Helicopter. The ancient nemesis of the Apache. Wanna bet this scene was filmed in an aircraft graveyard somewhere?

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In this case, it doesn't really make any sense for Wash to throw it away unless he didn't know what it was (in OOG I think only Kaylee & Mal knew exactly what the problem was).

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Originally posted by Adeptus:

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I believe the whole thing was meant to be one of those ironic moments that make you cringe to see what the character is missing. It was a nice touch, I thought.

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I'm going to be the 'downer' here and suggest that it might have all been a great big coincidence. . .if the scene was NOT filmed in an aircraft graveyard, and it was instead a sound stage filled with a bunch of props. . .when they filmed OoG, Joss or Tim could have just easily told Asok, their faceless intern, "Yeah. . .go to the prop shed and look in the pile of junk we used in 'Ariel'. . .find a part about 'this' big. . .Jewel will ad-lib where it's supposed to go. Oh yeah. . .and grab me some more coffee."

That's me. . .Mister "Too Much Reality".

I hope I don't offend.

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Given what happened in OOG, it would make sense that while they were in the junkyard, they picked up some extra parts for the ship. At least we know they have extra sychronizers, whatever those are.

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Maybe they sold it along with a batch of medicine.

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Originally posted by Static:
Damn good idea. . .of course. . .if they ever get RICH. . .how do you think it would go after that? Dress up Serenity a little? Get a whole CRATE full of Catalyzers?

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Originally posted by Static:
Anyhow. . .how do you think it would affect the show?

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Without the need to sneak Simon and River in as well, it might go even easier this time. . .and I'm pretty certain Niska would be alot more willing to listen to his henchman say, "Listen. . .ummm. . .Captain Reynolds would prefer that you and him just stay out of each other's way from now on. Is that cool?"

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I have to disagree w/ this line of thought. As Niska told Mal in "Train Job" they both are perceived as their reputations. If it gets around that Niska has been burned by Mal, and that Mal and crew got away from him after he had captured him, Niska's rep goes down and a lot of people will be convinced they can pull a fast one on Niska as well. Niska obviously holds a grudge, and money can not buy him off. I think Niska will rear his ugly head again down the road somewhere.

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I put a little though into this, and unfortunately, the episode doesn’t really explain what transpired on the station after they found Mal. Did they pretty much clean house and were able to get their money back? Or was it a quick insertion/extraction only involving a small portion of the complex? In any case, Niska must’ve been pretty severely weakened after that, both troop-wise and reputation wise. He got burned by Mal & Co in a big way, and won’t be likely to recover soon. He’d be extremely angry about Mal ruining his reputation and will probably seek some form of retribution, however he’s a must pretty smart guy and ought to realize that Mal & Co make a pretty formidable force, so there’s a possibility that he’ll change the way he does business, mostly because he won’t inspire quite so much fear in people anymore. I’m sure there are lots of people that are very happy about his downfall and possibly some people who would be willing to help Mal, even at a great expense to themselves (i.e. “Niska killed my Mother/Brother/Nephew/Dog” type people) these people are also more like to try and strike back now that Niska is weaker. I’d also have to believe that Niska “learned who the true Malcolm Reynolds is” after torturing him for that time, and something tells me he’ got to have some fear of him after that.

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Originally posted by Doran:
"...since Ariel was after Out of Gas, that wouldn't really be foreshadowing, would it?"


No, that would be irony.

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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
I have to disagree w/ this line of thought. As Niska told Mal in "Train Job" they both are perceived as their reputations. If it gets around that Niska has been burned by Mal, and that Mal and crew got away from him after he had captured him, Niska's rep goes down and a lot of people will be convinced they can pull a fast one on Niska as well. Niska obviously holds a grudge, and money can not buy him off. I think Niska will rear his ugly head again down the road somewhere.

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