GENERAL DISCUSSIONS

The 76th Independent Battalion (part 8)

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:05 AM

TRISTAN


Greetings! This is the discussion thread for the newly-formed 76th Independent Battalion. We are planning on marching in the DragonCon parade as a Battalion of Independent soldiers.
Last threads:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=25988
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=25915
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=25856
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=25714
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=25575
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=25503
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=25393


And our new website (thanks, BWTP!):
http://76thbattalion.homestead.com/index.html

And a dedicated message board (signup is required)
http://76thbattalion.proboards59.com/index.cgi

We have a patch!


I'll see if I can get all of the relevant data in this first post...

The question of our history has been brought up and discussed in past threads. To end any debate and possible confusion, we now have one person tasked with the history of the 76th. DocJubal is now the "official historian" of the 76th. We decided it would be prudent to have ONE version of events, that way there is not the possibility of confusing or conflicting storylines. We ask everyone that has ideas about the history of 76th, that you not just post it on the threads. If you do have something you would like to add, contact DocJubal.
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Originally posted by DocJubal:
Iff'n anyone wants to write a detailed history of their character, drop me a line: dedoc@mac.com. I'll do my best to help float it right in line with the loose, roomy history of the Battalion that I've envisioned.



Also, to prevent any single post from being taken as a new rule for the 76th, BWTP or myself will post the new "rule". That way, there will be no confusion. We will have discussions on subjects, but when the decision has been made, we will officially post it. I hope that will clear up any confusion. For the most part, everything in the first post of each of these threads are the rules so far.

We have agreed that it is important to be at least somewhat uniform in appearance...vests, coat or smock, helmet, and weapon will be the same for each trooper...at least close in pants, shirts, and boots. There are two basic uniforms that we can see, and have broken them down as follows:

Type A...basically use Mal as a model. The major item of this uniform is the long coat.


Type B....use Zoe as a model. The vest is worn over a smock-type tunic, and the mail sleeves are visible.


Both types of uniform can be worn by anyone. The Type A uniform is not reserved for the officers and the Type B uniform is not reserved for the Enlisted.


Rather than cram the first post of the threads with photos, I have removed the "Other photos from the series" line here. If anyone would rather I put it back, let me know.

Pants-- A similar pair that most of the soldiers seem to have worn can be found here:
http://www.wwmerc.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=CM83&type=store&catego
ry=3930
Another alternative has been found by Quandom and is located here:
http://www.blockaderunner.com/Catalog/catpg14.htm
BoomerGoodheart found yet another alternative here:
http://jas-townsend.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_4&products_id=461
Any of the above pants will work. It will be necessary to add a dark brown stripe down the sides.

Vest:
Tristan is designing one now:


I have decided to go with the simple three-line pattern to make the vest more generic as well as quicker and easier to construct.
These should be available for purchase beginning in February. For those that want the pattern and a cloth swatch to match, email me and I will get those to you in February as well.


Overcoat and "smock".
Tristan is currently working on a pattern for both the overcoat and for the smock worn under the vest for those opting for the mail sleeves.

Overcoat--This is the final pattern for the Type A coat. I will be experimenting with at least one other type of cloth to get the right "look" and feel of the final coat. To those who decide to make their own using this pattern, SLIGHT variations in color are allowable. If you want a copy of the pattern when I am ready to release it, please email me. I will also include a swatch of the fabrics I have used. There is not a commercially available version of this coat anywhere, but it is the pattern the 76th will be using. I will make coats for those that want them, and offer the pattern to those that either want to make one themselves, or know someone that can. I have not yet fixed a price, but they will be $100.00 or less. I did not start this with the idea of making money, but of making a good-looking, solid army of Independents...so the coats will be as close to "at-cost" as I can keep them





Mail Sleeves:
Artcat is testing out these directions http://upstagereview.org/CostumesArticles/Chainmail.pdf and will be making chainmail sleeves on a limited basis, possibly making a make your own sleeves kit available if there is enough interest.
A newer update from ArtCat on the sleeves:
Quote:
Both sleeves are now knitted, they will be redyed this evening which with this weeks humidity means drying time they should be ready for metal "finishing" towards the end of the week, then off to the leatherworkers :)



Helmet/Head Covering:
BabyWithThePower has found an inexpensive Russian helmet that looks very good:
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/LEG140-1717-1818.html
They are currently back in stock, so feel free to order one.
BrownCoat1 is also looking at a local surplus store for US helmets. If they can be found in quantity and at a good price, we may have a vote coming up soon.
The idea has also been suggested that the "Specialists" (snipers, demolitionists, etc) wear either soft caps or scarves/head-wraps rather than helmets. We do not want any modern bill-caps (like baseball hats) worn. We are in the process of narrowing this down to a final decision.

Boots:
Not really a problem. Mid-calf or knee high boots. Shades of brown would be good.
BabyWithThePower has this to say regarding boots:

Quote:
As for the boots, wear them around the house if need be, just wear them. Also, get yourself a pair of wool socks. You can get ‘boot socks’ at any Army/Navy Surplus for a buck or two. If you wear gym socks you will likely blister. Keep that in mind. I found a couple of cool boots for those interested.
This is the pair I’m getting:
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=277974

And some others:
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=306854
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=315859&pn=5
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=277975
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=286747



Scarf:
It has also been decided to use blue scarves for the comissioned officers, green for the non-comissioned officers, and red for the enlisted. As far as the type of cloth, try for something lightweight, possibly a crepe material. Try to match as closely as possible the colors in the 76th patch for the blue and green and the vests for the red.


Belts, ammo packs, backpacks, etc:
Look around. A brown belt isn't hard to come by, and holsters are relatively easy to find. SAXON has a large number of holsters available.
saxon1014@hotmail.com for more info.
Tristan may also be creating a leather shoulder-bag for those that are interested. More on that as it develops.
LostThought found a link to some canvas shoulder bags that can be used as ammo bags:
http://www.majorsurplusnsurvival.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD
&Store_Code=MSS&Product_Code=088167&Category_Code=23

Patches can be found here:
http://mysite.verizon.net/resp06h7/
AND
www.OutToTheBlack.com will have fully embroidered Independent patches. The star is a navy blue, which is the color in the Firefly Companion book.
We are awaiting a "report" from Sister on the quality of these patches. If it is good, then we will go with the Blue Star patch.
We have decided to wear the Independent patch on our right shoulder, and the 76th patch on the left shoulder. The Independent patch will be worn as Mal wore it, with the star point down, as seen in this screen cap from the pilot episode:


There has been some debate about this; that this was not the "intended" way it was to be worn...but, as this IS the way Mal wore it, we have decided that is the way we will wear it. There will be no deviation from this on the uniforms of the 76th Battalion.

Gloves: Up to the individual

Weapons:
This is the one area in which we have agreed to stick to a certain type of rifle. The main weapon of the Independents was the H&K G36K. I am aware that quite a number of you have alternate weapons, but as we are seeking uniformity, we will only accept weapons from the G36 family.
Airsoft and airsoft-clones can be found for $20-$50, either from airsplat.com or ebay.

This picture shows two versions; the top one is made by CYMA and is called the CM.021, the bottom one is made by Double Eagle ans is called the M41. A detailed breakdown of both weapons is available in this thread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=25575


BrownCoat1 found a more correct version on airsplat, but the price is a bit higher:


This one is more "screen-accurate".

Either weapon is alright, but for the sake of uniformity, let's stick with the G36 look. By this I mean let's not have anyone running around with an AK-47 or M16.

Sidearms were also discussed, and it has been decided to leave that to the discretion of the individual. I'll let BrownCoat1 sum it up for us:

Quote:
I find no reason to believe that an Independent army, formed by volunteers from border planets would be all that different. It could be that Mal's pistol was an individual weapon Mal either brought with him, was issued, or found on a dead soldier. I would think it highly likely that other browncoats carried personal weapons as well. I think we should try to stay unified to a point on uniform and long arms, but that if individuals want to add sidearms, knives, etc, it should be okay. It would give us that frontier, individual feel of the browncoats. Unified for a purpose, but still individuals.


So, the choice of sidearms is left up to the individual. Please let the CO or XO take a look at what you have chosen, though.

As for Demolitions, Nicodemus is currently working on several projects.
ArtCat and LostThought are also (at last posting...is this still happening?) working on casting grenades.

DocJubal, our newest Sergeant and the "go-to" for help and advice with modifying weapons, also has some good advice concerning firearms at the D*C march...and any Con in general:

Quote:
A gentle reminder here, fellow volunteers. Atlanta is an extraordinarily constume-friendly environment. (In Baltimore, the police would never let the parade happen, because of all the prop firearms; it's all but killed costuming at the Games Workshop tournament weekends there. In the NW, many of the ConComs, such as OryCon, are "weapons free" cons, and that's all she wrote.) Still; it'd be kindly not to give the DragonCon staff, or the Atlanta PD, fits. If you're kitbashing a sniper rifle, LMG, ATR, *make sure the business end has an orange barrel plug* for the parade. I think it'd be OK to make it removable for photo-ops later on, but make sure you HAVE one. Demolition teams are probably better served with satchel charges and the like than plastic "pineapple" grenade props hanging on a harness -- though one or two, discreetly tucked in a pocket for photo ops, probably does no harm.

He has also started a Weapons thread for help, advice, photos, modifications, etc:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=26000


BoomerGoodheart will be making lanyards for sale to the 76th, with "76th Independent Battalion" on one side and "We Will Hold the Line" on the other. (Thank you for those!)

We have discussed a Battalion flag, and have decided that for at least the first march, we should not have one. We will be marching with the SEBC at DragonCon. Fans of all types under one banner.

For those interested in marching with us, but unable to secure a weapon, I will be bringing several extra with me. I will also (hopefully) have extra coats, smocks, and vests with me at D*C.

RiverIsMyGoddess, our Medic (beer and cookies) is thinking about making a homebrew for the 76th. The discussion as to what type is still up in the air, I think.

We have decided on the subdued sew-on rank patches. They will be easy to place on the Type A uniform, but we are still bouncing around ideas on the Type B. It has been suggested to place the ranking on the shoulder along with the patch (I think that's what was meant). This is still open for discussion.
We will be wearing the US Army ranks, but upside down, per BWTP.
Here are some links to purchasing these ranks:
Quote:

If you order from here, these are the one's with rank equivelant:

E-2 = PVT
E-3 = PFC
CPL = Corporal (I know oyu know this, I'm posting all)
E-5 = SGT
E-6 = SSG
E-7 = SFC
1SG = First Sergeant

1LT = Lieutenant Going with 1LT rather than 2LT.
The rest are self explainitory.

Officers:
http://www.1800nametape.com/army-off.htm#DESERT
Enlisted:
http://www.1800nametape.com/army-enl.htm#DESERT

If you are unsure of your rank, check the main website, or email myself of BWTP.


We are also accepting design proposals for a T-shirt for the 76th. FireFlyGal has given me the email address of someone who can probably make up shirts for us. Please post design proposals on this thread so we can all look and vote.

Thanks to FlatTop for the shiny recruitment banner you now see in several people's sig lines. I believe he has offered to let anyone in the 76th use it...so please do!

WickedWren of the SouthEast BrownCoats, the group we will be marching with at DragonCon, has offered to take recruitment flyers to several Cons they will be attending over the next month. Thanks go to BoomerGoodheart for designing and forwarding this flyer. Recruitment is in full swing all over the place!

There is still an ongoing recruitment effort for the 76th, so if you know of anyone that would be interested, let them know about us! The link on our website is not working at the moment (we still have to create an application), but feel free to email either myself (Tristan) or BabyWithThePower.

We are also accepting entries for the 76th slogan. You may post these on the dedicated message board:
http://76thbattalion.proboards59.com/index.cgi

Still looking for more stuff I have missed...
If anyone sees anything I missed, please let me know.

Thank you to everyone involved so far! The 76th is growing thanks to all of you!



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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:26 AM

TRISTAN


Enclosed is the official "History of the 76th Independent Battalion", from DocJubal, the Battalion Historian:

Unification was not delayed by the brilliance of the Independent High Command, nor by possession of superior weapons and fleets, nor by materiel superiority on the part of the Independent faction. The War lasted five long years because of the almost incomprehensible devotion of the average volunteer to the Independent cause. Perhaps the clearest example of that devotion was the number of volunteer companies and battalions raised against Unification. These volunteer formations were often more effective than the planetary defense militias of the varied Independent world governments...

Yet another example was the 76th Independent Battalion. Raised on Dyton by a well-to-do merchant in dry goods, the 76th swiftly filled its ranks, and were deployed almost immediately. They soon earned their reputation as a determined, fearless unit, winning victories in the face of overwhelming odds...

A shortage of transport kept the 76th from being redeployed to New Kashmir, one of the few major campaigns that the 76th did not fight in. They were not so lucky at Du-Khang...

Details are frustratingly scant. What is known is that an Alliance light cruiser, the Warspite, overhauled and boarded the bulk freighter (Leaves of Autumn) that the survivors of the 76th were embarked on. In a sharp, savage ambush, the 76th drove off the Alliance customs and inspection detachment. The 76th then fought a boarding action of their own, subduing the crew and taking Warspite captive. A prize crew brought Warspite into orbit around Beaumonde, and the Independent Fleets’ Council paid a generous prize bounty to both the crew of the freighter and the 76th. With this prize money, and the renown gained in this exploit, the battalion was able to resupply, renew itself, and recruit with excellent personnel. Refreshed and back at strength, the 76th was summoned to the defense of Hera, arriving shortly before the Alliance became impenetrable...

The 76th lived up to their gallant reputation in Serenity Valley. They were one of only a few units to “hold the line” with the 57th “Overlanders”, well after their generals had given up...

Alliance losses in the last days of the battle, after the generals’ capitulation, were shocking. High Marshal Kurtz, surveying the carnage after the end of hostilities, remarked bitterly that “if this was the fruit of victory, may I never see defeat”. It is ominous – but not surprising, given such devotion – that rumours persist of an Independent resistance movement, which hopes to rise again...

Sergeants and Seraphim: The Reunification War
Marshal Bao Gu (ret)
Alliance War College, School Of Strategic Understanding



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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:50 AM

ROON


Dang, that's some good stuff there.

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 12:19 PM

BOOMERGOODHEART


I swear, ya'll start a new thread every damn day! By the time D*C rolls around, we'll be up to 200+.

Tristan, gettin' ready to send you the lanyard pic. Ben finally finished it up! (Christmas has been eatin' up his leatherworking time.)

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:54 PM

ROON


Well i dug up my WWII helment. It looks just like the one's worn by the browncoat soldiers in the series.

Private, 76th Independent Battalion

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 5:11 PM

BABYWITHTHEPOWER


Quote:
Originally posted by Roon:
So the ranks (to my new understanding of them)
E-2 = PVT
E-3 = PFC
CPL = Corporal
E-5 = SGT
E-6 = SSG
E-7 = SFC
1SG = First Sergeant
(O-1) LT = Lieutenant.
(O-2) Capt. = Captain
(O-3) Maj. = Major
(O-4) Col. =Colnel


Sort of. We have no E grades and no O grades. I simply put them on there so if you ordered from the site you knew which rank to buy. Our ranks are as follows:

Private (PVT) - Dropped redundant rank
Private First Class (PFC)
Corporal (CPL)
Sergeant (SGT)
Staff Sergeant (SSG)
Sergeant First Class (SFC)
First Sergeant - 1SG

Lieutenant - LT
Captain - CPT
Major - MAJ
Colonal - COL
General - GEN

I know there are PV2s and a 1LT on the site and that's simply because I havn't had time to run an update (been working the last few days) but it will be updated sometime tomorrow. I know a Battalion would never have a General, but as we grow and eventually get as big as the 501st Legion, could come a time where the good Colonal and myself need to be promoted out of the unit and run Command and Control from a battle cruiser, so I'm leaving that rank in place.



Quote:
Originally posted by Roon:
Well i dug up my WWII helment. It looks just like the one's worn by the browncoat soldiers in the series.


Post a pic here. I'm hoping we can all get a uniform helmet, though most pre-kevlar helmets will work if we paint them.

There were other things I wanted to say, but that was 4 hours ago when the site decided to take another dive today, so I forgot everything. I'll try and remember and post it here when I think of it.

One thing I wanted to mention, though is this site. It is becomming increasingly unstable and unreliable, it's the only message board I'm on that goes down 3+ times a day, so I ask that everyone that hasn't please, please, please sign up on our dedicated message board:
http://76thbattalion.proboards59.com/index.cgi?


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I'll be in my bunk.
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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 5:26 PM

ROON


i'll try to get the pic up, or atleast able to send it to someone via email

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 6:20 PM

TRISTAN


Evening, all.

I concur with BWTP...I am going to start shifting things over to the 76th message board. We will still use FFF.net for general talk, and announcements, but all of this info needs to be in a reliable place.

Boomer, I got the photo of the lanyard. It's gorgeous! Feel free to go ahead and post it along with prices, etc.

So, we'll keep posting to this site, but the majority of the decision-making/voting/etc. will occur on the other board. I reiterate BWTP's request, please sign up over there!

Roon, we are trying for a uniform look in helmets, coats, vests, smocks, weapons, and as much else as we can. So, please do send the helmet photo so we can take a look!

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 6:21 PM

NAUGHTYMAN


Bumporama !

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:30 PM

DOCJUBAL


Quote:
Originally posted by Tristan:
Enclosed is the official "History of the 76th Independent Battalion", from DocJubal, the Battalion Historian:

Unification was not delayed by the brilliance of the Independent High Command...


Once the XO sets me up a subforum over here ...

http://76thbattalion.proboards59.com/index.cgi ...

I'll be discussing what went into my thinking as I set this down, and offer some suggestions for how to go about working a character story into the skein of the 76th's stories.

Iff'n that's fun for you.

Iff'n not? Well, remember what's important:

Show Up.
March.
Have Fun.



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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:52 AM

DOCJUBAL


Quote:
Originally posted by DocJubal:
...
Once the XO sets me up a subforum over here ...

http://76thbattalion.proboards59.com/index.cgi ...

I'll be discussing what went into my thinking as I set this down...


Information on the 76th's history can now be found here:

http://76thbattalion.proboards59.com/index.cgi?board=unithist

Hope to see interested folks there!

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:56 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Can't wait to see pics of the lanyard.

Post up those helmet pics Roon so we can see them. It's a WWII helmet? Is it US or another nationality?

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:54 AM

BOOMERGOODHEART


*sigh* I don't know how to post pictures here! I'm completely illiterate when it comes to that. I did send it to BWTP, though, so maybe he can post it over on the "OB".

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:06 AM

TRISTAN


Boomer, I'll go ahead and post the lanyard now.

Members of the 76th Independent Battalion, listen up! This here's a shiny lanyard developed exclusively for members of the 76th by BoomerGoodheart and her husband. Check out how very shiny they are. To get one of these fine lanyards, contact Boomer!


Boomer, thank you and your husband once again for making these!

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:12 AM

BOOMERGOODHEART


It's our pleasure, I assure you!

If anyone is so inclined, Ben finished up a leather shot glass for a Christmas gift, and has the picture of it posted on our website, http://www.legendaryleatherworks.com (look under Mugs & Bottles). The word (Serenifly) kind of blends in, what with the waxing and all. We're gonna play around with painting it to make it stand out more. If you'd like to see a clearer picture of the fonts we used, go into Extras and look at the magnet.

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:15 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Ooh ooh ooh I want one (the lanyard).

Boomer, here is a link for future reference for you about posting pictures:
*** Tutorial on posting images: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=5&t=22105&m=389562#389562 ***


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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:54 AM

SISTER


OOoooooo!! ME TOO!!...Boomer, please reserve a lanyard for me??? Please, please!! I will contact you after the dreaded holidays...okay?
They are very, very shiney!!

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:01 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


I forgot to mention in my other post (possibly because I was distracted by the shininess of the lanyard) that I have decided to go with an idea Tristan suggested for the medics: I want to put the Chinese symbol for medic (or closest approximation) in red on a white background on the helmets. I was thinking that I would go ahead and get several helmets so I could do them all with one stencil (once I figure out what the symbol is) and you guys can get them from me at D*C.

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'cause the Roman Gods up to that point were crap. Jeff, the god of biscuits, and Simon, the god of hair-dos.

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:12 AM

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RIMG, that sounds like a great idea...all the helmets done with the same stencil. And thanks for going with the idea for the Chinese symbol...I think that will look really shiny!
Let me know what I can do to help.
Have you had anyone contact you about being a Medic yet?

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:20 AM

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So far, or as far as I recall, Grizwald and VerseExplorer have both expressed an interest in it.

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'cause the Roman Gods up to that point were crap. Jeff, the god of biscuits, and Simon, the god of hair-dos.

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:23 AM

TRISTAN


Good deal. Thank you for that!

On that note, I am going to be stepping away from the computer for a spell...I will be back later, though.

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:36 AM

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The lanyard sure is shiny. What is the price on it?

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 6:01 AM

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Happy Wednesday 76ers!
Tristan, sir: My holidays are "dreaded" as I 'was' expecting a virtual flood of family for the week (and, poor me only gets ONE STINKIN' day off)..so I'd laid in a LARGE supply of Foodstuffs... NOW....we learn that Denver, Co. (where most of 'em are flying in from) is in the midst of a blizzard...so it's not lookin good that they'll get here!!... Ah, well we're hoping they can still make it. However, as two of the rellies are little old ladies; they may be a wee bit timid, what with the storm and all. We'll see! Other family members were driving up from Atlanta - and since it was mostly to see/visit with the little old ladies, they possibly could cancel too! I need a bigger freezer.

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 6:27 AM

ROON


ok here's a picture of the helmet, well it's from the site but it's the same helmet:



And this is were you can find it and buy it:

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 7:34 AM

BOOMERGOODHEART


The lanyards are $10. Anyone who wants one, send me your name & screen name (so I know who's who), and I'll add it to my database list of deliveries. Unless, of course, you have to have it before D*C, in which case we can work out delivery. ali@legendaryleatherworks.com

For the helmets, I seem to recall the helmets in M*A*S*H being green with a faded red cross on it (this could be just TV stuff, and not actual military). However, if helmets have been worn that way, could you guys paint the helmets a tan/brown color and then chinese symbol over it? Seems to me the medics wouldn't stand out from afar that way...but then, whadda I know? LOL...

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 8:05 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Helmet looks good. $19.50 w/ liner seems okay, unless of course you compare it to the $10.00 or so a piece that the Polish helmets Tristan & BWTP located.

I will have to check my local surplus store on Friday when I am off to price them out there.

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 8:07 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


$10.00 sounds fair to me Boomer. Put me down for one please. I'll PM you my name.


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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 12:09 PM

ROON


is it ok that i just have a uniform coat that just goes to my waist?

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:48 PM

TRISTAN


Evening, all.

Roon, thank you for posting the helmet and the link. Those do look pretty good, but we found Russian helmets online for about $10.00 apiece. We are still waiting to hear back from BrownCoat1 on the local helmets (I just read that you'll be going Friday....thank you for that!).

And Roon, I am sorry, but the answer to your request about having a coat to just your waist is no. There are two types of uniforms, if you will read the first post again. Type A has a long coat over the vest that goes to the knees. Type B has an under-smock/tunic that will also come down to the knees. Those are the two choices for uniforms if you want to march with the 76th. Again, I am sorry to be short like this, but this is a decision that has already been made.

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:49 PM

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Unfortunately they removed the polish version from the site, only the Russian remains. The US helmet does seem more accurate, but I think the two are close enough that if people bought one over the other it wouldn't matter. Once they're repainted it'll be hard to tell the difference from afar.

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:07 PM

TRISTAN


Evening, BWTP.
You gave me the idea to look at the two helmets side-to-side...and I concur. They are close enough that they can both be used for our purposes.
So, 76th, we give you two, two helmet choices *insert Count Dracula laugh here*

We may have to find a spray paint brand/color that is universal so we can be sure the color will match. I know there are certain stores that exist all across the US, so that should not be too difficult. For our foreign recruits, we may be able to work something out where someone here will get the helmet, prepare it, and either mail it to you or give it to you at D*C. That will be something we can figure out after we firgure out the color.

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:54 PM

ROON


OK, i can live with that, Just have to decide on which one and get it.

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:29 PM

MAGDALENA

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Hey - that's cool! I am up for that!! It's almost a shame that I will have to rely on someone else to do the work for me - as I love putting in the time to create something... but I don't think it would be very easy to explain to customs...

I'm going for a walk soon! just for practice!

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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:01 PM

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Helmets aren't so difficult, Magdalena 'heart.

Try flying with a case full of rapiers, longswords, and daggers.



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Wednesday, December 20, 2006 11:54 PM

DOCJUBAL


Calling all historical-minded volunteers!

I'm looking for timelines derived from the events of the show and the BDM. There's a thread for this search over on the Battalion Boards:

http://76thbattalion.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=un
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Please take a gander, look at the one I found, tell me if you've got any better ones!

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Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:00 AM

MAGDALENA

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Thank you on both scores DocJubal!! I adore history and have a good head for details so I should be able to assist with the time line - I will report for duty over there shortly...

It's probably me watching too much of the TV show we have over here called 'Border Patrol' where they do things like deny entry on the grounds that they suspect the person has ulterior motives, maybe like marching in a battalion, or don't have enough money to stay for the period their ticket is for but have not obtained a work visa... things like that!

I will report for duty anon sir!

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Thursday, December 21, 2006 1:59 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Morning 76th!

Tristan, I should have info about helmets and insignia patches by no later than Friday night. I'll be sure to post up what I find out.

As far as painting the helmets, have we decided on a color yet?

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Thursday, December 21, 2006 4:17 AM

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I have a question.....

Do you have to go to Dragon Con in order to be a member? I want to to join, but can't go to Dragon Con, can I still join?

Also if so..... How do you? I went to the site and saw the application form, but I couldn't figure out how to fill it out. I copied it off the screen and was going to email it to one of your guys, but I didn't know which one or what the addresses were.

Help?

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Thursday, December 21, 2006 4:36 AM

TRISTAN


Morning, 76th!
Doc, thank you for that link. I posted this over there, but I'll go ahead and post here, too...I have seen a few timelines, but that one has a great deal more detail. Good find!

Magda, just act all innocent and they'll let you through.

BrownCoat1, I am looking forward to the info on the helmets and insignia.
As for the helmet color, I am not entirely sure yet. I will be looking at some screen caps and will probably rewatch the flashback scenes to see. I am going to assume some sort of a brown.

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Thursday, December 21, 2006 4:38 AM

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FireStalker, no, you do not have to march to join. The only thing we ask is that you don't present yourself in public as a member of the 76th until after DragonCon in September of 2007. That will be our first official "unveiling".
Please email the app to me tristan71@cableone.net

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Thursday, December 21, 2006 4:42 AM

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Thanks Tristan.... I'll be sending it your way soon.

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Thursday, December 21, 2006 4:45 AM

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Good deal. Once I have the application, I will forward it to the XO, who is also the webmaster of our site, and you will be added at the next update.
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Thursday, December 21, 2006 6:01 AM

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I have created some threads on our Proboard giving brief descriptions of the Operational Specialties within the 76th, and also posted a thread for people to tell what they are planning on being, and which uniform type they will be wearing.
http://76thbattalion.proboards59.com/index.cgi?board=mos

Please check it out and post. For those that have not siged up on the board, please do so as soon as possible!

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Thursday, December 21, 2006 6:04 AM

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Mighty shiny, gettin' folks what ain't even gonna be at Dragon*Con to be a member! Welcome to the Battalion!

And you newbies, be sure you read the first post of our thread for some of the non-negotiable Rules and Regs regarding our little group. And check out the links, these links and the first post should answer 99% of your questions.

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Thursday, December 21, 2006 6:27 AM

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Morning, FFG!
Thank you for adding that for the newbies. That will help out a lot.

Oh, have you signed up on the Proboard yet, FFG?

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Thursday, December 21, 2006 7:11 AM

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Mornin' Colonel! I'm signed up on the 76th homestead site but haven't given a full name yet. Am I missing another place to sign up or is the Proboard the same as the 76th Homestead site?

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Thursday, December 21, 2006 7:19 AM

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FFG, no, I was talking about the message board rather than the "official" site. I do see where you posted there, though. I was just wondering if you had actually singed in there.

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Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:45 AM

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I believe I have signed up in all the places I should be signed into, Sir. I am here http://fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=25704
and the 76th Homestead. Anywhere else I need to be?

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Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:07 AM

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FFG, this is the new message board for the 76th...I saw you post there as GUEST, but do not know if you signed up as a member:
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Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:13 AM

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Tristan,

who amongst our numbers will be talking with the folks at Dragoncon? or are we working through the SEBC? Either way looks like the folks at Ariel Ambulance Rescue Group (AARG) could use our influence to help get dragoncons interest in the ambulance being displayed at D*con (something they are really hoping to do this coming year)

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