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Thursday, January 11, 2007 6:47 AM

MSG


Hey all

Old Thread is here
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=26431&m=437067#437067

EDIT- good Firsties dance Penguin...ok so to ponder. Research says that overall happiness is found in the little moments, not the big amazing things. Do you agree or disagree and why?


Personally I agree. The taste of chocolate. How it feels to lie down when you are exhausted. Knowing the title of the new Harry Potter...all the little bits :)

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 6:51 AM

PENGUIN


Firsties!!!

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 7:03 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Little moments, hands down.

The big life changing happy things are there forever - Carson's birth, my wedding day...but the little moments in my life from those events are what I treasure.

Things that add to my enjoyment of life (chocolate, smokie treats, coffee, pets)enhance the overall happiness from the big moments.






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Thursday, January 11, 2007 7:10 AM

MIRCEA


I don't have any big amazing moments to compare.

I think this is the closest to first I've ever been. WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

I think nighttime is dark so you can imagine your fears with less distraction.

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 7:28 AM

VERSEEXPLORER


Morning All,
It's the little things, but I don't have time to explain. I'll be back late this evening. Bye. Hugs and Kisses to everyone.





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Thursday, January 11, 2007 7:29 AM

ZEEK


Hi, ponderers. It's been a while. I guess I was burned out on pondering for a while.

Anyway figured I should check back in. Seems like there are a lot of new faces around the thread.

As for the current pondering I'd go with most everyone else. It's the little things. If those aren't there then you won't be happy. Of course the little things are the quickest to be forgotten. The big things will stick around in your memory much longer.

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 7:39 AM

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mornin' Rugbug, MSG, Penguin, Mircea, VE, and Zeek.

I am with all of the rest of you, it is the little things.

Reminds me of the part of Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story when Stu and Stewie are playing the Glad Game (first cut into a fresh piece of construstion paper).

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 7:42 AM

MSG


HUGS Zeek so good to have you here...seems as if we lost Jonny and Rugbug to the other post...but they'll find us

and Happy Birthday Jonny and Tristan in case this doesn't get said

Oh and Magda is sans computer at the moment and asks that I pass on a hi and hugs to all :)


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Thursday, January 11, 2007 7:54 AM

MSG


Oh I felt the need to add bithday cakes for our guys

For Tristan and Jonny


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Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:10 AM

RUGBUG


Ack, I didn't get myspace birthday reminders. Have they stopped doing that?

Anyway...happy birthday Tristan and Johnny!

There is exhilaration and excitement in the big things. There is joy in the little things. A peaceful moment, a fantastic riding lesson, an amazing sunset. I'll take joy almost any day of the week. The little things are the daily reminders that life is good.

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:19 AM

ZEEK


So, does anyone remember my ponderable probably over a month ago? The friend and his attempted rekindling of an old high school relationship.


Well anyway he saw her over the holidays and now it seems like the roles are reversed. He's more into her than she is into him. She said she wouldn't even consider moving to be with him and he got all depressed. I guess he thought there was some actual potential to that relationship. So, he's all moppy now. Haven't found the magic words to snap him out of it though.

He thinks she's basically his last chance at marriage I guess. He says the area he work in now is not very populated or full of...educated people. So, he's not encouraged that he'll meet anyone there and I can't convince him otherwise. Anybody got any other words of wisdom that might work?

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:22 AM

MSG


Point him in the direction of a computer and eharmony.com or match.com or remind him that relationships can end up with conversations like this ( borrowed from Buffy obviously)

Anya: This isn't a relationship. You don't need me. All you care about is lots of orgasms.
Xander: Okay, remember how we talked about private conversations? How they're less private when they're in front of my friends?
Spike: Oh we're not your friends. Go on.
Giles: Please don't
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Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:37 AM

TRISTAN


Thank you all for the birthday wishes! It's neat that JQ and I share the day! Whee!

Let's see, afternoon, MSG, RugBug, Mav, Penguin, RIMG. Mircea, VE...welcome back, Zeek!

Love the cake, MSG...if only....*sigh*
The office gave me a tuxedo cake for lunch...chocolate cake with cheesecake layers. I will be hitting a food coma sometime soon, I can already tell!

Hands down the little moments...I have a few every day that remind me life is a wonderful thing and they keep me smiling.

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:58 AM

MSG


Oh the black tie mousse cake is my absolute favorite!!

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:05 AM

FITCH66


Honeycomb cheesecake every time... or possibly lemon meringue pie.
My mum made amazing cakes when me and my brothers were little. I once got a dinosaur. Like a big 3D stegosaurus that was stood up on its feet. The icing was very green, I remember.

Anyways, evening to everyone (or morning as the case my be) And happy birthday to Tristan and JohnnyQ. May you have many more!

I'd say happiness overall is dependant on the little things (for e.g. the sausages I can smell cooking for my dinner), because they improve your mood. But obviously BIIIIG happy moments will make you a happier/more optimistic person, 'specially if you have lots

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:14 AM

MSG


hmmm honeycomb cheesecake..do tell?? have you a recipe?


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Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:19 AM

FITCH66


I'm afraid I don't, a restaurant in the towm where I live does it, it's basically a cheesecake but with nuggets of crunchy honeycombed sweet stuff buried in it (like bits of a Crunchie bar), and sprinkled on top.

My ex boyfriend also made great cheesecakes, he did raspberry and white chocolate ones, and vodka and orange ones, but his best was the baked cheesecake. It was very complicated to cook, like 3 hours with the door to the oven closed, then another three with it open and stuff... tasted grrrreat though

EDIT: Anyway, goodbye to anyone who reads this, as I must now go to eat a big plate of sausage and mash with onion gravy, and then do last minute cramming for my history exam tomorrow.

to everyone

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:27 AM

MSG


drat oh well I've posted my best cheesecake in the recipe thread ( which I felt was due for a resurrection) so if you want to check it out
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=23626

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:35 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


I saw that MSG, thanks for sharing it. :)

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:39 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Point him in the direction of a computer and eharmony.com or match.com or remind him that relationships can end up with conversations like this ( borrowed from Buffy obviously)


I don't think I want to suggest that one. I think he's on the same page as I am there. Those would be like a last resort type of effort.

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:51 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
HUGS Zeek so good to have you here...seems as if we lost Jonny and Rugbug to the other post...but they'll find us


Forwarding URLs on the old thread help. I've been chatting up a storm over there. I'll bring 'em on over in a bit.
Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Oh I felt the need to add bithday cakes for our guys

For Tristan and Jonny


Now that's more like it!!

Edit: Hi Zeek!

'Nuther edit: As posted on a couple of the other threads, my birthday's tomorrow. But thank you all just the same.

Yet another edit: Oh, there's the forwarding URL. Huh. *sheepishly grins* Sorry MsG...




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Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:07 AM

MSG


Hey it does have a new url on the old thread...look just above Rugbug's post to mine:) HUGS

Hmm if match.com would be for desperation...how much more desperate do you have to be if you're considering trying to hook up with someone who's not really interested because they're your " last chance"?? Anyway, if you think he wouldn't go for it, I'd suggest setting up a double date with someone else or even just saying " I really like you both, but I'd hate to see you settle for less than an amazing relationship because you don't want to be alone"

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:12 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


lo all.

Do you think that is MrFMF is busy with his new so right now he would mind if I amused myself with Michael Weatherly?


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Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:19 AM

PENGUIN


FMF!!!!!!! Long time no see! *hugs*




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Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:25 AM

MAVOURNEEN


FMF!!! ((HUG))


Happy Dance! How are you??? You have been missed!

Michael Weatherly? A fine, fine choice.
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Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:47 AM

MSG


oooh good choice FMF and BIG GIANT HUGS you're here!!!!! ( Mind you I'm more of a Mark Harmon ( Gibbs) gal myself)

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:27 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Hmm if match.com would be for desperation...how much more desperate do you have to be if you're considering trying to hook up with someone who's not really interested because they're your " last chance"?? Anyway, if you think he wouldn't go for it, I'd suggest setting up a double date with someone else or even just saying " I really like you both, but I'd hate to see you settle for less than an amazing relationship because you don't want to be alone"


It's all about the mindset. He knows deep down that this girl isn't even a great catch. They aren't very similar people and he's way more intelligent than she is. But in his mind at least she's a girl who can put up with him and he has put up with her in the past. They know each other (kinda). So, she seems like less of a desperation move to him than internet dating. Not that there's really anything wrong with internet dating, but it has a stigma to it. One that he wouldn't like.

And to set up a double date not only would I need a date, but I'd have to find one for him too. Plus I'd probably need to live near him. That or be rich enough to jet across the country whenever I like. I'll aim for the second option.

Oh well I guess I'll just hope he snaps out of it on his own.

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:47 AM

RUGBUG


I didn't get lost anywhere.

Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Point him in the direction of a computer and eharmony.com or match.com or remind him that relationships can end up with conversations like this ( borrowed from Buffy obviously)


I don't think I want to suggest that one. I think he's on the same page as I am there. Those would be like a last resort type of effort.



I did match.com for a month. Not as a last resort thing, but more as a 'hrmm, what's out there that I might be missing' thing. Settling for the guys I meet doesn't seem to be a good option, so why not expand horizons.

It was okay. I was really only interested in one guy that contacted me (I didn't do any searching, I let them come to me). The rest were blah. Things fizzled with the one guy just recently. All in all it wasn't a bad experience, but I don't know if I will do it again.

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:48 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Think I'm gonna faint. FutureMrsFillion and Mal4Prez are both posting. Combined with the return of Zeek. Did someone call for the Apocalyspe and not tell me?


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Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:26 PM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Did someone call for the Apocalyspe and not tell me?


Nope. I think someone called for the most boring workday ever and had me on speed dial.

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:31 PM

TRISTAN


Oh, here's something funny for the non-math folks in here:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/203989,CST-NWS-stab10.article
It's a link to a newspaper article. There is one pop-up...but it's funny!

Sorry, busy day.

Hey, FMF! Good to see you! :hugs:
Mal4Prez! :hugs: Thanks for the b'day post!
'Lo to all!

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:47 PM

ASORTAFAIRYTALE


Hi MsG, Tristan, FMF, Penguin, JQ, Mav, Fitch, and everyone else! Nice choice for the thread name MsG, I love Garbage!

I agree with you guys. It's definitely the little things. I mean sure I get happy about the really big stuff, but they aren't what gives you the lasting happiness. They give you happiness during that moment, and happy memories when you look back, but not a happy life. It's always the little things, like having tea on a cold, rainy day, having someone to talk to about nothing, reading the imponderable threads...stuff like that.

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 1:12 PM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by Tristan:
Oh, here's something funny for the non-math folks in here:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/203989,CST-NWS-stab10.article
It's a link to a newspaper article. There is one pop-up...but it's funny!


Math teachers. Don't get me started with them. Some of them are good and all, but when they're frustrating you like mad I know the feeling.

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 1:18 PM

ASORTAFAIRYTALE


Quote:

Originally posted by Tristan:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/203989,CST-NWS-stab10.article



I find this rather ridiculous. I mean I know math requires you to work sometimes, but really, nearly killing someone over it?? What is wrong with some people?

Sorry for being all serious and whatnot, but I'm not always okay with this sort of thing...

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:13 PM

DANCINGNEKO


*waves to everyone*

My vote: I agree with the research. Simply for the fact that during any day, we can carve out a few minutes for something little to make our day better, the bigger things takes a longer time. Even the 3 minutes daydreaming/reminiscing about the big things that happen helps us tolerate the daily craziness that happens in our lives.

The apocalypse? Nah, that's reserved for the day I start celebrating my birthday on a regular basis (or maybe it's reserved for the day where my birthday is a "normal" day).

FMF and Mal4Prez just had to pop out (of the birthday cakes) for you and Tristan . Freaking you out? Well, that was a bonus .

Tristan: The article was funny/sad/scary/wrong on so many levels. I just have to wonder what the country is coming to when a 40-year old taking a GED class has that little self-control to do that to a teacher (of any sort).

(edited twice -- once to clarify the apocalypse question, the second to spell "apocalypse" )

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:18 PM

HELL'S KITTEN


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
overall happiness is found in the little moments, not the big amazing things. Do you agree or disagree and why?

Good question!

I guess I'd agree. I've had some really big amazing things happen, that certainly give the happiness high, but sadly, those are often non-repeating. The little moments are easiest to reproduce, so there's always something to look forward to. Hope, I guess, is the thing.

I could be more confident in this answer if I thought I was, overall, happy. The flip side is the little moments that bring you down; often and easily repeated. (Optimistic pessimist, that's me!)

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:29 PM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by Dancingneko:
Tristan: The article was funny/sad/scary/wrong on so many levels. I just have to wonder what the country is coming to when a 40-year old taking a GED class has that little self-control to do that to a teacher (of any sort).


Oh, that's just what I'd expect a teacher to say...

But thanks for the b-day wishes anyway.
Quote:

Originally posted by Dancingneko:
FMF and Mal4Prez just had to pop out (of the birthday cakes) for you and Tristan . Freaking you out? Well, that was a bonus .





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Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:13 PM

YINYANG

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.


Quote:

Oh and welcome YinYang to the Hopelessly Longwinded Support Group.


Aw, shucks. It's funny and sweet.

Quote:

Yinyang- very well thought out statement.Bet you get great grades:)


Yeah... when I want to. Thanks.

Quote:

Research says that overall happiness is found in the little moments, not the big amazing things. Do you agree or disagree and why?


Well, it's like... a flower (trust me, this is a way better analogy than the essay one I originally thought up): the stem and the pollen are things that it needs to have in order to stand up and continue. But, it's not a flower without the petals; it's not appealing if there's no color, or design.

The big happy moments are things I think we need for life, and the little moments make it all worthwhile. Taking pleasure in little moments makes life more vibrant, and I've found that it's much easier to be content (not happy, because that emotion is fleeting) when a few seconds here and there are taken to enjoy the radiant heat from a hot beverage, or marvel at a dragonfly, or just breathe. A life where little things are not enjoyed is one that I feel is wholly squandered, because no matter how stressed you are, or how important your actions are, brief moments can be spared to revel in being alive.



Re: the math stabbing. Couldn't get past the title, really. What sorts of issues does a person have to have to react so violently to frustration that countless of my peers (read: some of my friends) feel on a daily basis?

Oh, and before I forget - birthday 'grats to the old geezers.



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Thursday, January 11, 2007 4:28 PM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Much as I am loathe to do so, I must go along with the crowd. The Highs and Lows of life mark us, sometimes shape us (see my latest blogs). They can make us extraordinarily happy or grief-stricken. But that is fleeting as someone has already pointed out. True happiness (or depression) is defined by our day to day existence. If we are happy with the bland, even bitter, we can say we are happy. If the bland weighs upon us, if the slight sweetness of life does nothing to buoy us, we are indeed sad.


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Thursday, January 11, 2007 5:00 PM

WHITEFALL


Blarg, this bugs me... I know what you all mean, the little awesome things in life, but it seems to me that there are so many little annoying things in life when you go to school that they sorta cancel each other somewhat.

On a sidenote, I feel like a fool, I know every word of the damn play but I keep screwing up my lines when it counts. I've got to accept it, I'm not off book even though I havent touched the script in a week. Blaaaaarrrrrgggg... I hate being bad at stuff.

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Friday, January 12, 2007 4:03 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


mornin' Imponderables.

Slow morning for the threads, I hardly had any catching up to do at all. Maybe the site died one of it's many many deaths last night.

I can't think of a good ponderable right now, I'll think about it and get back to it in a bit.

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'cause the Roman Gods up to that point were crap. Jeff, the god of biscuits, and Simon, the god of hair-dos.

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Friday, January 12, 2007 5:44 AM

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I seem to have made a grave error....I thought the "You and me...." thread was the last one, and started a new one! D'oh!
I humbly apologize, MSG! I feel like an idiot!

The new thread is here, though...
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=26477

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