What makes the Crew of Serenity feel like family to you? by PopeBob

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What makes the Crew of Serenity feel like family to you?

POSTED BY: POPEBOB
UPDATED: Friday, February 27, 2004 12:15
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Wednesday, February 25, 2004 12:21 PM

I had to post this, because i just watched The Message again. It makes me all teary and happy at the same time.

So lemme start this off by tellin' you my angle.

Everyone has thier place from the semi-bitter yet protective Mal to the lunatic brain experiment trying to stay a girl with River. They have a chemistry unlike any cast I have seen. The characters are very real... like you could meet them on the street or at a Denny's. How many shows have you seen where the "Brute" of the show gets a package from his mother and gets excited, And then wears the hat that his mother knitted for him with pride?

It's things like these that endear them to us.

So what's yer Take on it?

Ahhhh.. Curse you sudden but inevitable betrayal!!

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Wednesday, February 25, 2004 12:29 PM

WERESPAZ

So, what makes 'em like family for me is absolutely the "realness". One of the major things that makes 'em real... flaws. They've all got 'em to some degree, just like everybody else. I'm tired of the perfect starship captain who always has the right answer, and hardly ever makes mistakes, who's of perfect moral character.

Yup, the flaws. Nothing major - just realistic flaws.

-The SpAz

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Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:03 PM

TEELABROWN

Werespaz is right. They have realistic flaws. When I reading The Grapes of Wrath, I felt I could meet these people if I walked along a road. Firefly is the same way. They are just so real because they are NOT perfect. The situations are NOT perfect. Their lives are NOT perfect. Just so real.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:21 PM

ECMORGAN69

What makes these people near and dear to me is the fact that they were created as characters with nuance and depth. With the exception of the also excellent "Joan of Arcadia, you just don't see that kind of three-dimensional character creation. You know Jayne can be a double-dealing scumbag from watching "Jaynestown", "Out of Gas", "Ariel", oh sorry, pretty much every episode

But, he still helps save Mal in "War Stories", wears that stupid hat, etc. Mal's behavior towards Inara in "Shindig" is a 43-minute display of his different sides. I could go on...

Anyway, seeing people on TV that strive to excel, then in the next act do some dark and terrible thing, that's just flat-out unusual. Nobody does that. That's why "Firefly" and Joss Whedon rule, and everything else on TV (except History Channel) sucks ass.

There are a host of other things I love about "Firefly", but the people are what made me fall in love with the show.

They can have my "Firefly" DVDs when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers....

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Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:26 PM

SHINY

The crew gathered around the dining table. The scenes that stick out in my head most are river stealing the bread off of Jayne's plate at the end of 'Safe', and Wash walking in at the end of (and missing) Book's monastic humor about 'the natty thing' in 'Out of Gas'.

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2004 2:06 PM

IRISANNE

The flaws, for sure. And the way they love each other but drive each other crazy at the same time. Mal yelling "Shuddup--one of you is going to fall and die and I'm not gonna be the one to clean it up!" Mal insulting Kaylee "you'd look like a sheep on its hind legs in that dress" and feeling silently bad about it afterward, and the way the others react to the insult. Zoe and Wash fighting and being crazy about each other--everything all mixed up together.

And hey, what about those common rooms/lounges? What's that all about? Those are our 1970s basement family rooms, with the mis-matched furniture and the orange shag carpets. I love those rooms.

P.S. Off topic--what the heck is that white-and-red pom-pom wall-hanging thing in the rec room near the infirmary? I can't tell you how many times I've stared at that thing, wondering, "What the heck is that supposed to be?" Hee hee.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2004 2:32 PM

SHINY

Quote:
Originally posted by IrisAnne:
P.S. Off topic--what the heck is that white-and-red pom-pom wall-hanging thing in the rec room near the infirmary?

Didn't you know Kaylee used to be a cheerleader for prarie harpie high?

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2004 2:38 PM

IRISANNE

Quote:
Originally posted by Shiny:
Quote:
Originally posted by IrisAnne:
P.S. Off topic--what the heck is that white-and-red pom-pom wall-hanging thing in the rec room near the infirmary?

Didn't you know Kaylee used to be a cheerleader for prarie harpie high?

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

Hahahaha. Good one, Shiny. It does sort of look like an explosion at a cheerleader convention.

Thanks for the giggle.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2004 3:37 PM

ANKHAGOGO

Quote:
Originally posted by IrisAnne:
P.S. Off topic--what the heck is that white-and-red pom-pom wall-hanging thing in the rec room near the infirmary? I can't tell you how many times I've stared at that thing, wondering, "What the heck is that supposed to be?" Hee hee.

Oh, don't feel bad. I'm a complete "hey! lookit that over there in the corner! " whore. I've been trying to tell what some of the pictures in Mal's room are -- they're never right in the frame for me to use my handy-dandy DVD zoom feature on, and it's making me nuts! They look like photos, and I wanna know who/what they're of! It makes me want to just go walk around the ship so I can see what all the little things in the corner are, because there's alot of detail there we don't get to see!

Now in keeping with the question, I agree with the "normal people with flaws" opinion. They seem like people you'd like to go out and have drink with, or sit down to dinner with. But I know that Jayne would probably make me want to smack him alot of the time, Inara would make me feel like a grubby backwoods hick, Zoe would intimidate me somewhat, and Mal would either make me stammer like a 14-year-old meeting Justin Timberlake, try to impress him, or turn into the Pushy Queen of Slut Town. And that's all good. That's part of what makes them feel real.

"You are such a boo."

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Friday, February 27, 2004 5:42 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Good points by all.

I have to agree that thier flaws make the crew more real than most casts of TV shows you see. The fact that they look out for one another, and pull together when things get rough is another thing that makes them like family.

I think the chemistry of the actors, the script writing, and the direction of the episodes really all comes together to make the best sci fi show I have ever seen.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Friday, February 27, 2004 6:32 AM

SHANNARA

They can have my "Firefly" DVDs when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers....

lol, now that's funny!

the success is quite simple (not really):
- complex and interesting story lines
- depth of character development
- beautifully filmed
- subtle, wonderful music
- magnificent set
- stupendous star and guest acting

and something i can't really describe except to say the show is subtle. intelligent viewers can pick up on nuances and subtleties and don't need to be slapped in the head with a shovel like most shows do.

also, no character has made me laugh out loud more than wash (with the possible exception of buffy's zander). the scene where the bounty hunter asks kaylee if she's ever been raped before was traumatizing to watch it was so well done. and, finally, the episode "out of gas" is perhaps the most brilliant single episode of any show in television history.

"She ain't movin'"

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Friday, February 27, 2004 8:20 AM

PFORHAN

They better be family. How many children must I name after characters to get in?

Hopefully, just the one -- http://muddyhorse.com/photos/kaylee (born-on date: Oct. 2003)

Pat.

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Friday, February 27, 2004 8:58 AM

MANIACNUMBERONE

They're family to me because I spend more time with them than most of my actual family members.

I like this picture best, Pforhan...

yer kids are too cute.

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Friday, February 27, 2004 12:15 PM

MER

It's very hard to explain it. But let's give it a go, shall we?

It all how they deal with certain things. Something is holding them together. I'm not sure what it is, but maybe they're growing on each other, becoming a solid crew unit. No matter their decisions, or actions, it never changes the fact that they're a family.

And Family members do stupid things sometimes.

*____* god I feel like crying.

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