Who Here Masturbates?? by Calhoun

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Who Here Masturbates??

POSTED BY: CALHOUN
UPDATED: Sunday, February 11, 2007 13:41
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Saturday, November 4, 2006 9:40 AM

the problem is that sex is, at once, the ultimate form of expressing love (arguably) and the ultimate form of animal gratification...it is not an either/or proposition.

I believe that the animal gratification aspect of it is directly tied to relieving stress as another poster had alluded to.

those who want to make it an either/or proposition are the ones who are going to be deceived here.

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Saturday, November 4, 2006 6:57 PM

JUBELLATE

Well I was sure surprised when I saw this topic in the Firefly community.

I'll just say 3 things
1. Endorphins will soon be the last legal drug left to mankind the way the government is going
2. The number one place people are injured most is the home.
3. Injury releases more endorphins than masturbation.

So, stay home and run with scissors.

Or maybe I should just stay out of this thread.

The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. – H.L. Mencken

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Saturday, November 4, 2006 7:15 PM

SINGATE

Quote:
Originally posted by JubelLate:
3. Injury releases more endorphins than masturbation.

Well then, perhaps I should give my hand a break and find me a dominatrix.

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 6:12 AM

ZOID

JubelLate wrote:

Quote:
Well I was sure surprised when I saw this topic in the Firefly community.

I'll just say 3 things
1. Endorphins will soon be the last legal drug left to mankind the way the government is going
2. The number one place people are injured most is the home.
3. Injury releases more endorphins than masturbation.

So, stay home and run with scissors...

While it sounds very clichè, if I go long periods without 'having my ashes hauled', I become aggressive and accident-prone. I can't speak for others -- especially women, who are still a mystery after all these years -- but I know it's true for myself.

Additionally, I would always prefer to have sex with my hard-working and frequently overtired wife. ...Except for those times when I just express love for myself, by having a moment of self-gratification. "Compulsive masturbation" is an ill-defined concept in IHeartFirefly's quote above. Is 'compulsive' defined by a number? Is it defined by a situation in which the compulsion takes over one's conscious behaviors?

Compulsive behavior -- whether it's sexual addiction, abuse of alcohol and other drugs, overeating, et al -- is damaging to the body, to the 'Temple', to keep it on a Biblical theme, although I'm pretty sure Jesus was talking about the individual soul ('heart') being His temple, not the physical body itself. Otherwise, those with physical afflictions would not be fit 'temples', and you get the worst parts of the history of the Third Reich.

But to mislead people -- especially the young -- into believing that masturbation is sinful is, in itself, a sin. (All together class) Because it hurts them. It is a perfectly natural biological urge, like the biological prerogative to procreate, the need to eat and the need to eliminate bodily wastes. Can people become addicted to masturbation, to eating and even to taking laxatives? Yes, they can. How can you tell when you're addicted? (Once again, all together) When the behavior starts becoming hurtful to those around you.

See how easy a proper definition of 'sin' actually is?

Still, a person must be careful when saying, "Well, I'm a heroine addict, but I'm not hurting anyone else, so according to your definition, zoid, Im not living a life of sin." By engaging in behavior that keeps you from reaching your full potential -- regardless the fixation that the 'compulsive' or addictive behavior focuses on -- you are hurting the entire world, by depriving it of your talents and love. Again, hurtful equals 'sinful'.

So, in an effort to fully anticipate objections to this argument: Is masturbatory behavior 'natural'? Well, it is, if one considers human beings as a part of the animal kingdom, as I do. All animals engage in masturbation, male and female.

...But perhaps they are all mentally diseased, hmmm?

Respectfully,

zoid
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Sunday, November 5, 2006 10:01 AM

SERYN

Quote:
Originally posted by JubelLate:

So, stay home and run with scissors.

you know how many times i use this as an insult? (just go run with scissors!) that and its friends 'go play tick with the traffic' and 'you know, toasters make really good shaving mirrors when in the bath.'

Ah, if only more people would follow this advice, there'd be far fewer stupid children born.

But to get serious a moment.

Rio - first of all choose your words with care, Kane has eagle eyes.

Secondly, did anyone ever bother to explain to you what Depression actually is?

Its caused by an imbalance of neurotransmitters in the brain, leading to a range of symptoms, including, interestingly enough, self-loathing and thoughts of suicide and self harm (thats the masochistic type, not the euphemism for jerking off).

Causes of depression are hard to pin down but are believed to often be hereditary, and triggered by hormonal changes, diet and lifestyle - how much exercise you get, use of drugs etc. and Seasonal Affective Disorder.

Nowhere, NOWHERE does it say that masturbation, or for that matter promiscuity or any other sexual activiy causes depression, infact its quite the opposite - regular orgasms, mean the release of endorphins (the 'feel good' hormone) into the brain. This is probably why you felt the urge to do it so 'avidly' when at your worst.

What will worsen your experience of depression will be that afformentioned self-loathing. Your seriously unhealthy attitudes are your enemy. Grow up, realise you may be a big tall fiteen but you are far from mature and you know very little, learn to accept other views, to filter out the negative and propagandised ones, and to form your own opinions in a balanced, open minded and healthy way. This doesn't mean that you have to like masturbation or anything else, but it does mean that you have to accept that your condition isn't caused by one 'big bad' that you can blame all your ills on. Go back to your doctor, ask him what you can do to alleviate what you are feeling, what you can eat, what kind of exercise you can do, what supplements or even medicines may help in the short term. Your doctor will love it, he can charge your insurance for every hour.

Thirdly - throwing your toys out of the pram much? The people you mix with here are the most diverse bunch of folk you could hope to come across, and you have an unrivalled wealth or knowledge and experience thats your for the asking.

Hell, on this thread is the biggest bunch of wankers i've ever met and none of them are dead. Thats got to give you a clue.

And yes, harsh, rail against it if you will, but the best lesson a teenager can ever learn is that they don't actually know anything, so its time to get learning.

As for the quotes from the self help books. A normal healthy adult human can regulate their behavior, 'moderation' as someone said. The type portrayed in that excerpt already have an issue, emotional or mental, for whatever reason, and compulsive behavior, of any kind, excessive visits to Mrs Palm and her five daughters or turning the lights on and off fifteen times is an outlet.
French Polishing in itself has little to do with the behavior.

And as for religion, groan, good g_ Why oh why?!?

Shall we go with the childish reply? go on, i feel the need, I've spent all day dodging fireworks, and the slack jawed chavs wielding them, i need a good old tantrum.

Religion, is the primary cause of what? Anyone...? Anyone....? Anyone...?

War.

Its is the excuse wielded by millions throughout history, cynically or in absolute ernest, to exercise their based desires, to kill, to hurt, to rape, to steal, to lie.

Its the reason the leader of the free world couldn't find his arse with two hands and a map (bet he could find his little soldier unaided though) Its the reason innocents are persecuted and live in fear and die daily, for reasons they have no real concept of.

Compared to that, a guy pulling himself off is small fry.

What we are talking about here is personal choice, and the relationship between our minds and our bodies. God (yes, I do whole heartedly believe in a the guy) has precious little to do with anything - its the Man that makes the choice and lives with it.

Oh, and the fact that some people on this site talk utter cobblers.

But, yes, I stepped over the line, I bought religion into it. No actually, that wasn't me. but regardless, I inflamed the situation, but everyone else, lets stop it here, if we want to start screaming, creat a thread in Troll counrty and i'll happily meet you there, I haven't had a good scream of any kind in a long time. In that way, the rest of the site can continue to live in the peace and harmony it has always enjoyed. That of a large and unruly family were one sibling can't stand another, small projectiles regularly fly accross the table and they have their own filing cabinet in the local A&E.

Anyway, on with the jokes.

Ohhhhh Ceiling Cat! Here Kitty kitty kitty....

And as for the original question - A lady doesn't tell.

Isn't sanity really a one trick pony, anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy...ooh hoo hoo hoo... the skys the limit!
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Sunday, November 5, 2006 1:57 PM

CITIZEN

Quote:
Originally posted by seryn:
And as for the original question - A lady doesn't tell.

*Restrains himself from the joke*

Come on, you know me, how much will power do you think it took not too say?

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 1:58 PM

CALHOUN

Quote:
seryn wrote:
Sunday, November 05, 2006 10:01

Hell, on this thread is the biggest bunch of wankers i've ever met and none of them are dead. Thats got to give you a clue.

HAHAHAHA.. Thats the SPIRIT!!

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 4:02 PM

CALHOUN

Every time my masturbation thread makes it up into the latest posts it seems all the other "not so interesting" threads get hammered on! just to push the masturbation talk away...

Maybe we could start a masturbation game! every time this thread makes it into the latest posts we could have a toss!

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Monday, November 6, 2006 12:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Speaking of "hammered on" I know a little guy who's getting the spunk beat out of 'em in about...... oh, 2 1/2 hours. Oh joy of joys!

BTW... where's my boy Kaneman? He's the biggest beat off in here.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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Monday, November 6, 2006 12:48 AM

BABYWITHTHEPOWER

Yeah, in about 3 hours I'll investigate my crime scene, give myself a Sipowicz, if you will.

This has been a fun thread.

And Seryn, under no circumstance should you appologize for one word you said in that post. Hell, half way through I decided you were my new hero.

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Monday, November 6, 2006 7:47 AM

SERYN

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:
Originally posted by seryn:
And as for the original question - A lady doesn't tell.
*Restrains himself from the joke*

Come on, you know me, how much will power do you think it took not too say?

an awful lot, and for that I respect you.

Jack, get thee to the Musicians thread, your presence is desired.

Babywiththepower - my pleasure (yes, i do realise the danger of saying that on this particular thread) but i wasn't aware i had apologised for it, i'll have to go back and edit it out sometime.

Isn't sanity really a one trick pony, anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy...ooh hoo hoo hoo... the skys the limit!
http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

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Monday, November 6, 2006 12:55 PM

USBROWNCOAT

"BTW... where's my boy Kaneman? He's the biggest beat off in here."

Watching ceiling cat watching me. Tricky lips, thanks for asking.....

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Monday, November 6, 2006 1:21 PM

MADRIK

Why cant the responce of this post be just: "Yeah, I do"

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Monday, November 6, 2006 1:32 PM

PDCHARLES

What happened? He see your face?

Quote:
Originally posted by Madrik:
Why cant the responce of this post be just: "Yeah, I do"

We have a hard time with the discussin'.

Arrrrr! Dar be Ceiling Cat... watching me Shiver my Timber

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Sunday, February 11, 2007 1:44 AM

CALHOUN

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Sunday, February 11, 2007 4:50 AM

PENGUIN

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Sunday, February 11, 2007 6:23 AM

BROWNCOATNATE

if i don't masturbate i become up tight and stress easily.... seriously

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Sunday, February 11, 2007 8:10 AM

LEXIBLOCK

Wow, this place has gone to the dogs.

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Sunday, February 11, 2007 1:41 PM

FASTMOVER

...I also eat and sleep too...

It's up to your morals, but most people do it. It's just a matter of admitting it and it's true it can really calm you down if you're stressed. :)

I am evil, I am sly, and if you get eaten no one will cry.

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