Vote for Firefly (We're #3)! XII by FlatTop

Not bad at all for a weekend vote!

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Monday, February 26, 2007 8:07 AM

Damned fine numbers for Firefly! Especially as it was a Sunday!

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Monday, February 26, 2007 8:13 AM

Not impressed at all with the TVTally site. Yes, Firefly tops the show lists and that is certainly good.

But the "episode" list is just an average rating of the 1-to-10-style of votes that people give each episode. I contacted TVTally with suggestions for improving their episode ranking, but even though they had prompted me for suggestions in detail, they chose to ignore my suggestions. They don't appear to be very good at math. As a result - all of the episodes in their top 25 list have nearly the same number of points. It'll then boil down to only fractions of a point difference between their episodes.

Plus they appear to round to the nearest 1/100th point and then list alphabetically after that. Pffft.

Here is part of their list:

Objects in Space Firefly 8.74/368

Family Jewels Las Vegas 8.71/7

Albatross Law&Order: 8.71/7

Friends&Lovers NCIS 8.71/7

Once More, With Feeling
Buffy the Vampire Slayer 8.66/454

Family Jewels had 6 votes at "10", and was in first place. All it took was a vote of "1" to put it in 2nd place. The Buffy episode has had 450+ votes, but is behind a group of 7 vote episodes.

That is almost a useless poll. But TVTally doesn't realize that all of the episodes will pop to the top quickly as six people give it a "10" then all settle down to 8.71.

(I'm still casting votes for "show", but "episode" is a waste.)

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Monday, February 26, 2007 8:19 AM

But ....

Xena got more

Didn't I see somewhere that there are over 25000 members of this site? If we all voted, we could take the no 1 spot in a day - [iA DAY!!

We can't let Xena draw away from us! Get voting, people!

'I only hit my head is all'

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Monday, February 26, 2007 8:29 AM

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Originally posted by FlyVote:
Not impressed at all with the TVTally site. Yes, Firefly tops the show lists and that is certainly good.

But the "episode" list is ...

... is almost a useless poll. But TVTally doesn't realize that all of the episodes will pop to the top quickly as six people give it a "10" then all settle down to 8.71.

(I'm still casting votes for "show", but "episode" is a waste.)

The episode voting on tvtally is problematic. (I started a thread in their forum about it)

A major problem is the people voting negatively - check out farscapes episodes. I, personally, 10'd all the unranked episodes, just to test my theory, and a few hours later, someone had com along and 1'd them all.

Unfair, and it happens to anything that rises above Firefly/Buffy.

I mean, most if not all Firefly eps should have a perfect 10, no?

So who gave less than 10? Not any of us, surely?

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Monday, February 26, 2007 8:35 AM

WACKYNEPHEW

Something else I noticed is that the TV Tally episode ranking only lists the top episode of each show. At one time Firefly had the top 8 or 9 spots.Now it's only Objects in Space(which I just downloaded from iTunes. My loaner isn't back yet).

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Monday, February 26, 2007 8:44 AM

WACKYNEPHEW

Quote:
Originally posted by Yardarm:
Unfair, and it happens to anything that rises above Firefly/Buffy.

I mean, most if not all Firefly eps should have a perfect 10, no?

So who gave less than 10? Not any of us, surely?

On the other hand, the more votes you get overall, the less susceptible you are to negative votes.

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Monday, February 26, 2007 8:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WackyNephew:
Something else I noticed is that the TV Tally episode ranking only lists the top episode of each show. At one time Firefly had the top 8 or 9 spots.Now it's only Objects in Space(which I just downloaded from iTunes. My loaner isn't back yet).

My guess is that they made a change to only allow one show's episode per spot. That was a stop-gap measure. They also don't count shows until they get 6 votes.

Soon all of the shows on the list will have a score of about 8.71. OiS is at 8.74, but will get a few more "1" votes.

Show X gets 5 "10" votes, but does not appear until the 6th vote (likely a "10"). Then it has a score of 10/6. Next it gets a "1" vote and then has a score of 8.71. It'll get more "10"s and more "1"s and like all of the other episodes will settle at 8.71.

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Monday, February 26, 2007 8:55 AM

FEDEXXX

This is too complicated. Let's make it simpler with a bump!

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Monday, February 26, 2007 8:59 AM

SUASOR

I came across a tally from a year ago. Which reveals some interesting trends;

SHOW / VOTES - Total votes recorded as of 02/19/06
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Xena: The Warrior Princess 73595
Farscape 40495
Queer As Folk 34960
La Femme Nikita 29010
The X-Files 18703
The Man from U.N.C.L.E. 17626
Angel 15389
Roswell 14369
Firefly 9409
Buffy the Vampire Slayer 7135
Star Trek: The Original Series 6823
The L Word 5323
Stargate: SG1 4918
Scarecrow and Mrs. King 4625
Bonanza 4234

A year ago, Zena was still number 1, and by a larger margin, over a different number 2 (Farscape.) Bonanza was number 15. Talk about fan power. Even Firefly was doing better (twice as better, and at number 9). In the last year, the Bonanza fans added 177,000 votes, while we added 156,000 (although in a shorter period of time, as we didn't really get into this race until a few months ago). Xenites added 148,000 votes in the last year. No one else has even come close to the voting action by the top 3. Gunsmoke has, however, come from way back in the pack. And where are the Buffy fans? There are lots of them, and they are natural allies of ours.

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Monday, February 26, 2007 9:41 AM

Guess who I BUMPed into today.

'I only hit my head is all'

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Monday, February 26, 2007 10:13 AM

I swallowed a bump.

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Monday, February 26, 2007 11:24 AM

'Cause everybody knows that bumpin' aint allowed in school

David

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Monday, February 26, 2007 11:24 AM

...time to bump....

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Monday, February 26, 2007 12:42 PM

TELCOD

Xena and Bonanza? - Need to get busy FireFly Fans.
You can vote every 60 minutes. How long does this poll go on?

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Monday, February 26, 2007 1:28 PM

poll is neverending...like our love of Firefly!
voted and bumped

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Monday, February 26, 2007 2:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by telcod:
Xena and Bonanza? - Need to get busy FireFly Fans.
You can vote every 60 minutes. How long does this poll go on?

And you can use FlyVote to help you do that.

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Monday, February 26, 2007 3:44 PM

Welcome to all the new bumps!

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Monday, February 26, 2007 4:48 PM

YINYANG

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.

Never...

Well, uh, not to sound cold-hearted, but... they gotta die sometime, right?

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Monday, February 26, 2007 6:52 PM

SIRI

Still voting. Bump.

Siri

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Monday, February 26, 2007 7:00 PM

LEADB

Quote:
Originally posted by yinyang:
Never...

Well, uh, not to sound cold-hearted, but... they gotta die sometime, right?

Their heirs are legally obligated to either keep the site up, or donate the money to a home for flea infested mice. So it's forever ;-)

And I believe it was pointed out from the very beginging that the episode voting on TVtally is useless, and worse, divisive. I personally suspect that folks are assuming that it is firefly fans who are tearing down the other episodes from up top. I sincerely hope it isn't.
I recommend simply ignoring the episode voting.

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Monday, February 26, 2007 10:01 PM

JORUNE

Bump for only one working day this week and the rest is holiday!

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 1:08 AM

Happy Holiday bump.

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:00 AM

bump for no holiday..(boo hoo)...late night boring meeting this evening (grrrr)...but sunny day and warmer! (yay!)

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:08 AM

FEDEXXX

Holiday? What holiday?
Work-day bump from Bulgaria!

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:13 AM

NYARL

Excuse me, but is this bump taken?

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:14 AM

..pardon me....this bump's 4U

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:30 AM

Did you bring enough bump for everyone?

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 5:05 AM

CAUSAL

Morning bump

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 5:16 AM

Today's Numbers

Total Votes (Range to show)
Xena(1): 222,742 (54,762)
Bonanza(2): 182,066 (14,086)
Firefly(3): 167,980 (0)

Votes Gained Today (Wk.Avg.) Avg.
Xena(1): 1,414 (1,433) 654
…Consecutive Days > Firefly: 10
…Best in 1 Day: 1,497 (record for all time best, Feb 22, 2007)
Bonanza(2): 787 (751) 652
Firefly(3): 1,316 (1,209) 869
...Consecutive days > 1K: 9
…Best Day (Nov. 29, 2006): 1,365

Closure Rate Today (Wk.Avg.) Avg.
Xena(1): -98 (-224) 215
Bonanza(2): 529 (458) 217

Days to Intercept Today (Wk.Avg.) Avg.
Xena(1): Never (Never) 255
Bonanza(2): 27 (31) 65

We didn't take the day, but we were only 98 votes behind the Xenites! Good Job!!

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:10 AM

Will bump for food.

David

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:13 AM

DERANGEDMILK

Regardless of what Xena is doing, breaking 1300 is worth celebration! Hopefully we can keep the numbers above that mark from now. KEEP VOTING BROWNCOATS!!!!!!
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"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:24 AM

WACKYNEPHEW

Hey, weren't we doing a big vote day for Adams birthday also?

Bump for Adams birthday.

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:28 AM

MRBEN

Did Xena really get exactly the same number of votes today as yesterday?

mrben

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by mrben:
Did Xena really get exactly the same number of votes today as yesterday?

mrben

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http://www.jedimoose.org

It certainly appears that way. It happens on occasion. Not often, but not unheard of.

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:43 AM

DERANGEDMILK

bump

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:47 AM

AYCEOFSPADES

1316, very nice. If we can keep it around 1300 everyday it would be awesome.

Keep it up Browncoats

I know we've been down a bit with Xena putting up such big numbers but hey, remember the saying 'There's always someone worse off' and in this case it BONANZA LOL

At least we're not losing a place, whereas the poor cowpokes or whatever they're called will be very shortly be losing 2nd place to the almight Firefly. So chin up Browncoats, it could be worse....just ask the Bonanza bunch

lol

I AIM TO MISBEHAVE

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:36 AM

Not down....
no frown...
'cuz my coat
is brown!

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 10:41 AM

VUMP

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:37 AM

DERANGEDMILK

Anyone else getting this message repeatedly?

Quote:

500 Internal Server Error

The server has encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

-e

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:39 AM

love me, love my bump.

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 1:00 PM

Voted for mayor bump.

David

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 1:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by derangedmilk:
Anyone else getting this message repeatedly?
Quote:

500 Internal Server Error

The server has encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

I've seen it before, but not today.

Perhaps these would be more useful as error messages:

Your file is corrupt
The backup cannot be found
Please begin again

The network is down
Tech support has gone to sleep
Go outside and play

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FlatTop:
The network is down
Tech support has gone to sleep
Go outside and play

Tee hee.

Ziggy plated guitar, jamming good with Weird and Gilly,
The spiders from mars. He played it left hand,
But made it too far,
Became the special man, then we were Ziggy's band.

David

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:39 PM

feeling a bit bumpish

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:23 PM

ROY

1300 bumps is more like it.

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 8:40 PM

ROOKIE

HI EVERYONE!!!

I just registered to serenitymovie.org and posted about the same thing there (and to the soooo old vote for firefly III thread in this very forum) that I will here, so sorry if some of you see it twice. It's soooo late here...

It's good to meet you guys! I'm from Hungary, and I am watching Firefly only the 2nd time these days icon_smile.gif Ok, I'm coming pretty late, but hey, at least I saw the episodes in the correct order! ;)

Ok, maybe you'll hear more about me later, but now let's get down to business...

The Xena votes... 3rd plot up here... Did you notice any funny patterns? Well, I did... Strangely flat distribution (around 600 votes/week) for 2+ months, then a sudden rise to almost the double of it at the end of January... Incidentally, 600 votes equals 4 "people" voting each hour, 24/7... As Reyclou put it at another place: "Methinks most of them are scripts or bots - automatic vote generators that have been going since this thing began."

I say let's kick those bots into the engine!

Install Greasemonkey in Firefox from https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/748/, restart FF, click my goodie http://firefly.dreamhosters.com/firefly.user.js, then go to http://richlabonte.net/tvvote/index.html, wait a few seconds and enjoy the shinyness! Then leave it there for an hour, and... you'll see...

BUT: Please don't abuse it, as all we need is to keep up with the 8 or so Xena bots I suspect we're dealing with.

No need for dirty tricks. No power in the 'verse can stop us!

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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 10:33 PM