I finally found the courage to lend out one of my SERENITY copies. by jwhedonaddict

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I finally found the courage to lend out one of my SERENITY copies.

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Saturday, March 17, 2007 3:32 AM

Two weeks ago, and it hasn't been returned, even though they claimed to have watched it already. It's clearly true, because they've recalled scenes and people they wouldn't've known about otherwise.

They've borrowed DVD's before and only returned about half. Their son borrowed a cassette once about 15 years ago and I found out weeks or months later that his tape recorder "ate" it and he never replaced it. He was a child at the time, so in that sense I could accept it from him, but his parents never even acknowledged it, even though they obviously knew about it. If they were embarassed that they couldn't afford it, I would've understood. Still, if there was a toy he wanted, he never failed to get it.

So, should I be worried?

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Saturday, March 17, 2007 3:40 AM

PENGUIN

Well...I doubt the dvd player ate it!

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Saturday, March 17, 2007 3:48 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

Well, no, but it still could've been damaged in some other way, or "lost" behind the entertainment center (their usual answer for unreturned DVDs and why they keep "forgetting" about them).

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Saturday, March 17, 2007 4:28 AM

CHRISTHECYNIC

Ok, here's what I don't get, in July 2006 there were about 6,525,170,264 people on earth, the number has grown since then, out of all of those people why would you lend your Serenity DVD to ones who consistently steal that which is loaned to them?

Assuming they decide what to keep at random you had, based on what you have said, a 50% chance of losing it. If, on the other hand, they keep the good things for themselves you were pretty much screwed from the start.

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Saturday, March 17, 2007 4:42 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

Yet another reason I bought myself a second copy...I knew of the possibility, yet I still hoped I would be proven wrong this time (they're family after all). I figured the potential sacrifice would be worth it this time, considering the movie is an experience that should be shared!

By the way, I don't personally know a single person who IS that trustworthy, anyway.

Edit: And it wasn't only good stuff that they kept. Most of what I remember were things I had planned to sell (like Queen of the Damned), which they didn't know about.

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Saturday, March 17, 2007 6:55 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

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Originally posted by jwhedonaddict:

By the way, I don't personally know a single person who IS that trustworthy, anyway.

Well , you've just GOT to get out more...

Meet some fellow Browncoats !

" When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return. "

--Leonardo da Vinci

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Saturday, March 17, 2007 3:15 PM

RMMC

*hugs* Unfortunately, some folks is just like that. Actually, I gave my first set away to friends who couldn't afford to buy it (they'd had the most gawd-awful 4 years I'd ever seen in my life) so I gave it to them and went Firefly-less for a month until I could afford to get myself another set.

I now have my own set and the loaner set.

And the loaner set is about to go out to my mom's cousin, whom I learned today, *likes* SF and fantasy unlike my mum.

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RMMC

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Sunday, March 18, 2007 2:49 AM

GRIZWALD

You lend to family, it's like giving stuff away, only not as satisfying.

Here's what you do (and what you shoulda done when the kid ruined your tape years ago): Say: "Oh, that's too bad. Well, I got it at Wal-Mart/Best Buy/Amazon and I'm sure you can find another copy there. When do you think you'll be doing that?"

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Sunday, March 18, 2007 2:59 AM

SHUKES

I know pleanty of people ripe for browncoating, unfortunatly i just can't quite yet pull myself to lend them the DVD's! I mean what would i do with out them during that time (i pretty much watch the entire series and movie once a week) and if they lost it that might just put me in a killing mood :S

Shukes

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Sunday, March 18, 2007 3:36 AM

FOLLOWMAL

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Originally posted by jwhedonaddict:
Yet another reason I bought myself a second copy...I knew of the possibility, yet I still hoped I would be proven wrong this time (they're family after all). I figured the potential sacrifice would be worth it this time, considering the movie is an experience that should be shared!

By the way, I don't personally know a single person who IS that trustworthy, anyway.

I'm sorry jwhedonaddict that this has happened.

I learned early on that I COULD NOT live without my Firefly/Serenity DVD's home with me, where I could pick them up when I wanted to and watch, yet I wanted to share what I'd found with my family and friends. So I figured out a way to budget to have extras of each on hand at all times, so that I could recruit by sharing. And I made myself a promise at the time, that if the sets didn't return to me, then I would consider it a BC victory. Then I'd hope the love of the 'Verse would infect them so much that they'd be moved to buy extra copies and recruit too. It's not always easy to budget for it, but I've found myself a happier person since I let it go.

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Originally posted by Grizwald:
You lend to family, it's like giving stuff away, only not as satisfying.

Exactly. I count it as gone and my contribution to populating the world with more Browncoats... because that's what we truly need for more... more Browncoats!

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Originally posted by Shukes:
I know pleanty of people ripe for browncoating, unfortunatly i just can't quite yet pull myself to lend them the DVD's! I mean what would i do with out them during that time (i pretty much watch the entire series and movie once a week) and if they lost it that might just put me in a killing mood :S

It actually does put me in a killing mood, lol.
I love my Firefly/Serenity and I still watch it often. But I also want to help others find this same love, so I make sure I have a way to share it with them. It took me a half a year to afford keeping a copy of each on hand to recruit with, but I watched for sales and finally got the two of them here and stored on my shelf to share.

One thing I've found to be consistently true about BC's....and I've become more this way myself. We share and we take care of each other.

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Monday, March 19, 2007 7:47 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

Thanks to everyone who replied.

One of them mentioned it today, that he forgot to bring it even though he knew he would see me today. They're not the 'sharing' types, so I wouldn't've expected them to pass it on even if they had decided to keep it.

I never really expected all this. I figured if anyone replied at all it would be tell how ashamed I should be. I think I might need it so I don't do something that stupid again!

As for the incident with their son years ago, he was 10 or under at the time. I was around 14, really shy and a huge pushover. I felt bad that he might feel bad and I wanted to be seen as "nice". Confronting anyone about it was beyond my capabilities at the time. I only brought it up here because it's a pattern I've noticed over the years.

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Monday, March 19, 2007 8:05 AM

DONCOAT

You may have gotten into the "give them an inch and they'll take a mile" situation.

I hope the FollowMal attitude resonates with you. Chalk it up to recruiting! Of course, that's a bit easier if your finances aren't stretched too far.

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Tuesday, March 20, 2007 5:06 PM

WACKYNEPHEW

I thought I'd chime in since I loaned out my only dvd set some time ago. Actually, the reason I started posting on this board instead of just lurking, was that I was having Firefly withdrawal symtoms after I loaned my set to my next door neighbor. Interacting with people on this board helped some. When I couldn't stand it anymore, I downloaded a couple of episodes from iTunes. Then I found the dvd set at Target for $17.99. Purchased it of course. Well, yesterday my neighbor said that he was done with it, and that he loved it. I asked him if he knew anybody who he thought might also enjoy it. He said yes. So I told him to lend it to them. Kind of like a "pass it foward" type of thing. I'm hoping it goes very far.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:21 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Well, if they don't return it and it has been a few weeks, that is when they find you on their doorstep to pick it up.

I personally have no issue loaning dvds, especially if I am spreading the word, but if it is someone I know procrastinates in returning them I will take the time to go and retrieve it.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:25 AM

CABOT

Well, one way of looking at it...if they didn't like the movie they probably wouldn't have kept the disk.

You just recruited some naughty folk trying to live on the rim, is all.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:36 AM

FILLYGIRL

Operative: "Its worse than you know..." Mal: "It usually is."

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Originally posted by jwhedonaddict:
Thanks to everyone who replied.

One of them mentioned it today, that he forgot to bring it even though he knew he would see me today. They're not the 'sharing' types, so I wouldn't've expected them to pass it on even if they had decided to keep it.

I never really expected all this. I figured if anyone replied at all it would be tell how ashamed I should be. I think I might need it so I don't do something that stupid again!

As for the incident with their son years ago, he was 10 or under at the time. I was around 14, really shy and a huge pushover. I felt bad that he might feel bad and I wanted to be seen as "nice". Confronting anyone about it was beyond my capabilities at the time. I only brought it up here because it's a pattern I've noticed over the years.

No Way were you being stupid!! You loaned to family, we treat family different, but this also means you can go over there, walk up to where you think it is and start looking for it. If anyone ask what your looking for, say the DVD I loaned you, cause I have somebody else who needs to see it. Just because YOU are the somebody who needs to see it, doesn't mean you have to tell them that. I also have two sets, I can't be with out them for long. Remember "to forgive is divine".
You are a good Browncoat!!!

Private in the 76th

...it's worse than you know...Operative
...it usually is.....Mal

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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:08 AM

GRIZWALD

*lightbulb moment*

Tell them they can keep the disk now but you expect them to buy you the BDSE in July.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:13 AM

FILLYGIRL

Operative: "Its worse than you know..." Mal: "It usually is."

Fillygirl bows to the best idea yet!!!

Grizwald you're a genius

Private in the 76th

...it's worse than you know...Operative
...it usually is.....Mal

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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:37 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

Grizwald did have a good idea...however I don't think they'd fall for it in this lifetime.

If it's not returned by next week, I'll go to their house and pick it up I guess.

Part of me kind of wants to let them keep it and consider it guerilla marketing, as someone else suggested I think. I don't know. They (my family members) know way more people than I do (I'm more of a loner) so I wish they were the types to pass it on, but they just don't see any movies or tv as anything BUT entertainment...nothing that should be thought much about after it's over. They don't see it as a form of art, like I do (at least in Joss's case).

I've even tried to get my mother and sister interested in it. They pretty much view tv in the same way, though. They've enjoyed BUFFY, and eventually liked ANGEL (with some prodding--they were bored with Season 1's stand-alones, but by Season's 3 & 4, their eyes and ears were glued to the screen). But still, they never "got" them the way I did. With FIREFLY, they barely paid attention. My mother, who grew up watching westerns with her father--I always found them boring!!!

So, you see what I have to work with, family-wise.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:19 PM

ZEROKIRYU

I have the same problem with certain people in my family.

I'll loan them something and they'll say
"No you didn't, I don't have it."

So now I make them sign A piece of paper saying
they have it, and will return it in A timly fashon.

I'm having A little trouble converting my family,
but I'll do it eventually.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:23 PM

THOLO

I bought 2 copies from Blockbuster for 4.99 each(the half off sale) and I use those to loan out. hahah

Keep Flying!!

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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:48 PM

STARSNUFFER90

My box set has been on loan for nearly a month, and the girl I've loaned it to hasn't watched it yet! Luckily Firefly is on TV during the week, and i've been recording those to watch occasionally. I need advice as to how to convince her to watch it.
Also, I need to work on getting a spare copy of the season, and I'll get the special edition in July so I'll have a serenity to loan. I've debated just leaving serenity somewhere with this web address and my SN and see what happens. Maybe another day. ahh firefly, how wonderful

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Inara: Why would I want to leave Serenity?
Mal: Can't think of a reason.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 7:01 PM

ZEROKIRYU

Tell her you want to come over to watch something she likes, then sneak it in the player.

Mwahahahaha. Mine is an evil laugh.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 7:31 PM

FILLYGIRL

Operative: "Its worse than you know..." Mal: "It usually is."

Cut a deal,.....you should know something that shes likes to do, so......offer to do what-ever it is BUT only if she will watch a episode. It might be an expensive deal, but...you could try.

Private in the 76th

...it's worse than you know...Operative
...it usually is.....Mal

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Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:50 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

I got it back this morning!

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