You do this thing, and then you will be solid by FlatTop

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You do this thing, and then you will be solid

POSTED BY: FLATTOP
UPDATED: Monday, April 9, 2007 07:36
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Friday, April 6, 2007 4:16 AM

Today's Numbers

Total Votes (Range to show)
Xena(1): 275,350 (54,463)
Firefly(2): 220,887 (0)

Closure Rate Today (Wk.Avg.) Avg.
Firefly(2): -->Xena(1): 310 (350) 172
Bonanza(3): Stable
Gunsmoke(4): Stable
Farscape(5): Will fall to 6th with current Top10. Will fall from Top10.
LaFemme Nikitia(6): Falling towards 9th. Will fall from Top10.
The X-Files(7): Climbing towards 5th. Will fall from Top10
Lexx(8): Climbing towards 7th. Will fall from Top10
Roswell(9):Climbing towards 8th. Will fall from Top10.
Queer as Follk(10): Will fall from top 10. Soon! BSG @ 1,231

Days to Intercept Today (Wk.Avg.) Avg.
Xena(1): 176 (156) 317

Votes Gained Today (Wk.Avg.) Avg.
Xena(1): 1,069 (1,165) 807
…Best Day (March 30, 2007): 2,803 Record for all time best!

Firefly(2): 1,379 (1,515) 979
...Consecutive days > 1,300: 11
…Best Day (March 30, 2007): 2,359

Bonanza(3): 921 (988) 700
…Best Day (March 29, 2007): 1,185

Gunsmoke(4): 564 (583) 384
Farscape(5): 369 (353) 217
LaFemme Nikitia(6): 187 (168) 159
The X-Files(7): 342 (345) 240
Lexx(8): 374 (351) 232
Roswell(9): 271 (259) 164
Queer as Follk(10): 55 (57) 58

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Friday, April 6, 2007 4:29 AM

Interesting things:
BSG will Pass QaF Monday or Tuesday. Depends on how well they keep it together this weekend.

I updated the charts on my machine, will post them Monday of course. You've GOT to see this! Honestly, there may be tears. Suffice it to say, there is only one chart where Brown isn't on top.

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Friday, April 6, 2007 4:54 AM

..vumping from work....no holiday for me.

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Friday, April 6, 2007 6:05 AM

talking to my solid self...bump after voting...

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Friday, April 6, 2007 6:24 AM

Thanks as always for the stats flattop. Can't wait to see those charts. HOORAY FOR BSG! Keep voting all!
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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Friday, April 6, 2007 7:17 AM

Bump my ride.

David

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Friday, April 6, 2007 8:29 AM

bumping and were did i put those easter eggs

irishwash

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Friday, April 6, 2007 8:44 AM

bumpy easter eggs? Don't know where they went....( backs away looking innocent..)

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Friday, April 6, 2007 8:55 AM

So I decided to make my own little script to determine some of the information that I thought would be interesting that isn't in the figures FlatTop and Leadb are giving. I've only got a few days of numbers saved so far so I can't do numbers based on weekly averages yet, but here's what I came up with from just the difference between yesterday and today:

Pos. Show: Total (Daily) Next significant event
1. Xena: Warrior Princess: 275350 (1069) Will be caught by Firefly in 176 days.
2. Firefly: 220887 (1379) Will reach Hall of Fame in 22 days.
3. Bonanza: 215583 (921) Will reach Hall of Fame in 38 days.
4. Gunsmoke: 113931 (564) Will reach Hall of Fame in 242 days.
5. Farscape: 112669 (369) Will be caught by Battlestar Galactica (2004) in 209 days.
6. La Femme Nikita: 109602 (187) Will be caught by Battlestar Galactica (2004) in 112 days.
7. The X-Files: 86498 (342) Will be caught by Battlestar Galactica (2004) in 91 days.
8. Lexx: 79635 (374) Will be caught by Battlestar Galactica (2004) in 74 days.
9. Roswell: 72562 (271) Will be caught by Battlestar Galactica (2004) in 31 days.
10. Queer as Folk: 63483 (55) Will be caught by Battlestar Galactica (2004) in 3 days.
11. Battlestar Galactica (2004): 62252 (611) Will catch Queer as Folk in 3 days.
12. Ponderosa: 61327 (336) Will catch Queer as Folk in 8 days.
13. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: 58357 (405) Will catch Queer as Folk in 15 days.
14. Laramie: 57796 (310) Will catch Queer as Folk in 23 days.
15. Stargate SG-1: 51434 (291) Will catch Queer as Folk in 52 days.
16. The Man from U.N.C.L.E.: 51032 (125) Will be caught by Angel in 23 days.
17. Angel: 48093 (256) Will catch The Man from U.N.C.L.E. in 23 days.
18. Star Trek: The Next Generation: 44610 (282) Will catch The Man from U.N.C.L.E. in 41 days.
19. Star Trek: Voyager: 39862 (344) Will catch The Man from U.N.C.L.E. in 52 days.
20. Babylon 5: 39739 (291) Will be caught by Little House on the Prairie in 29 days.
21. Star Trek: The Original Series: 38615 (196) Will be caught by Little House on the Prairie in 11 days.
22. Little House on the Prairie: 36386 (410) Will catch Star Trek: The Original Series in 11 days.
23. Trapper John, M.D.: 35171 (392) Will catch Star Trek: The Original Series in 18 days.
24. JAG: 34760 (135) Will be caught by Charmed in 5 days.
25. Charmed: 34108 (293) Will catch JAG in 5 days.
26. House MD: 32178 (251) Will be caught by Combat! in 3 days.
27. Doctor Who: 32051 (245) Will be caught by Combat! in 2 days.
28. CSI: Crime Scene Investigation: 31760 (225) Will be caught by Combat! TOMORROW.
29. Combat!: 31675 (468) Will catch CSI: Crime Scene Investigation TOMORROW.
30. The Simpsons: 29830 (165) Will be caught by Star Trek: Deep Space Nine in 12 days.
31. Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: 29417 (202) Will catch The Simpsons in 12 days.
32. Scarecrow and Mrs. King: 28847 (121) Will be caught by NCIS in 6 days.
33. NCIS: 28337 (210) Will catch Scarecrow and Mrs. King in 6 days.
34. Stargate Atlantis: 25450 (176) Will catch Scarecrow and Mrs. King in 62 days.
35. Les Filles de Caleb: 25328 (53) Will be caught by Northern Exposure in 10 days.
36. Northern Exposure: 24107 (184) Will catch Les Filles de Caleb in 10 days.
37. Cleopatra 2525: 23351 (143) Will catch Les Filles de Caleb in 22 days.
38. Alias: 23108 (135) Will catch Les Filles de Caleb in 28 days.
39. Scoop: 21838 (71) Will be caught by Hercules: The Legendary Journeys in 9 days.
40. Hercules: The Legendary Journeys: 21563 (105) Will catch Scoop in 9 days.

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Friday, April 6, 2007 9:46 AM

Nifty, fun-facts-reading VUMP

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Friday, April 6, 2007 10:16 AM

bump,
damm, sister wipe that chocolate from your mouth, quess i'l have to buy more, u wont find these ones

irishwash

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Friday, April 6, 2007 10:51 AM

Yum, Yum, Bumble-vote/bump....(licks chocolate from purloined eggs off her fingers...)

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Friday, April 6, 2007 11:54 AM

...doing the thing that makes me solid....everyone pause and be sad...all my tomatoes will die tonite as temperatures dip into the 20's...so sad. (Thank goodness for these chocolate eg....uh...nothing...never mind...)

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Friday, April 6, 2007 12:09 PM

Xena: 1,069
Firefly: 1,379

Only picked up 300 on Xena, better than nothing but we gotta do better while their vote is down.

C'mon Browncoats, I know we can rake in 2K a day. Its time to misbehave.

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Friday, April 6, 2007 3:17 PM

I'm trying to figure out if I can limit that list in some way to just the "interesting" bits, but I can't come up with a definition of "interesting" that really has an effect of limiting it much.

First off the entire top ten is pretty much always interesting.

It seemed to me that I could limit the rest by only including them if if was a short amount of time until something happens. But with only one exception (Stargate Atlantis, which considering Jewel's in it I imagine many of us care about), the entire bottom 20 has something happening within a month, and an awful lot have something within a week.

And the range from 10-20 also has a lot of shows with stuff happening soonish, and the shows people here are most likely to care about (Buffy, Angel and SG1) are on the high end in the "days till something happens".

Can anyone think of a way of limiting the list that makes sense to post?

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Friday, April 6, 2007 5:17 PM

Play that bumpy music white boy.

David

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Friday, April 6, 2007 7:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by sab39:
Can anyone think of a way of limiting the list that makes sense to post?

Some interesting predictions in the next few weeks. Perhaps put them in groups based on time to event - Next week, Next month, Much later.

176 days is an awful long time. The Xenites will rally just like Bonanza and blow that out a few more weeks or even months. We have got to increase our *consistent* vote much nearer to 2K.

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 1:31 AM

Wakey, wakey...
coffee...coffee...
votee...votee...
and BUMP

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 2:36 AM

...vumping

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 2:46 AM

Quote:
Lexx will be caught...

I don't like that sentence! But I'll bump nevertheless!

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 3:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by sab39:
I'm trying to figure out if I can limit that list in some way to just the "interesting" bits, but I can't come up with a definition of "interesting" that really has an effect of limiting it much.

First off the entire top ten is pretty much always interesting.

It seemed to me that I could limit the rest by only including them if if was a short amount of time until something happens. But with only one exception (Stargate Atlantis, which considering Jewel's in it I imagine many of us care about), the entire bottom 20 has something happening within a month, and an awful lot have something within a week.

And the range from 10-20 also has a lot of shows with stuff happening soonish, and the shows people here are most likely to care about (Buffy, Angel and SG1) are on the high end in the "days till something happens".

Can anyone think of a way of limiting the list that makes sense to post?

What's interesting and what's not; that's the key thing. It's pretty subjective. I did the top10 +BSG on the basis of "keeping an eye out" for fast risers. When I started doing that, there was some risk that someone behind us would catch up; at this point, we (and Bonanza and Xena) are sufficiently entrenched it would take a pretty big and sudden splash for a show to catch us "unawares". I've continued with the periodic top10+BSG just as a "something different" to report now and again; and typically when I did that I might throw in some observations about other shows not necessarily in the top10.
Frankly, I'd suggest you pick what interests you; if there's shows that are rising fairly quickly (like Combat!), include 'em. Shows that have a Whedon tie in, and you want to, include 'em (Buffy, Angel). A particular show getting close to a move up or down, include 'em. My guess is you will find there's a certain amount of thrash in what is interesting, and that can be a bit of a pain to include / exclude. But in general, if you find it "interesting", figure enough other folks will too it is worth posting. Or do the whole top40 and don't worry too much; it's just "one screen"

BTW, if you'd like some more historical data, pop me a message via the FFF mail thingie with your email addr (or post it here if you don't mind "bots" who strip emails from sites like this sending you spam) and I'll pop over some top40 stats (How about the 1st of each month that I have, and all of March and April (that I have, I actually missed one or two)?

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 3:37 AM

....and another vote/bump from me!

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 3:43 AM

Voting towards that second place in the Hall of Power, all the rest is details.

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 3:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by jorune:
Voting towards that second place in the Hall of Power, all the rest is details.

A lot of truth to that! While there is a "point in time" nature to the hall; it is "permanent". Even if we later tire of pushing the numbers up on this poll, we'll be there... right behind Xena!

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 3:51 AM

Folks, just wrote a "longish" append about the TVtally site:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=28026

In short, they have massively re-done the "episode" rating. While I'm not thrilled with the fact they are still posting on the "front page" the top 5 episode and otherwise still show "inter-series" episode rankings; the site management has gone a long way to minimize the -ability- of folks to run around and "tear down" the rankings of "opposing shows." While still concerned regarding the future of episode voting there, for the moment it seems to be "ok". See the above post for details and a request to our fellow Browncoats to put "honor" over "victory" in episode rankings there.

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 4:15 AM

New numbers are out

Xena 1172 to 276522
Firefly 1211 to 222098

Maybe we bet switch back to the old thread name!

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 4:34 AM

...vumpin' from work!

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 4:51 AM

BUMP BUMP

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 6:10 AM

vumping

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 7:22 AM

...and another vump from working sister....

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 7:24 AM

Top 11

title total dayDelta aveMar1 aveJan1 HoF HoFave BstarGspecial
Xena: 276522 1,172 1,378 1,068
Firefly 222098 1,211 1,387 1,202 23 20
Bonanza 216486 903 892 787 37 38
Gunsmoke 114519 588 558 464 230 243
Farscape 113023 354 314 259 387 436
Nikita 109771 169 164 163 830 855
X-Files 86888 390 342 332 418 477
Lexx 79964 329 328 309 517 518
Roswell 72813 251 224 192 706 790
QaF 63549 66 59 62 2,825 3,184
BstarG 62852 600 606 554 312 309 812

title- show title.
total- total votes ever
dayDelta- yesterday's vote
aveMar1- ave vote since Mar1
aveJan1- ave vote since Jan1
HoF - days to Hall of Fame based on todays vote.
HoFave - days to HoF based on ave since Mar1
BstarG special - how many votes per day they need to hit HoF the same day as GunSmoke.

Note that FF has regained the ave votes since Mar 1 over Xena; we are in the "gain" column since then! Way to go BrownCoats!

BstarG needs to average around 800 votes a day to beat Gunsmoke into the HoF.

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 8:17 AM

...vumpers

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 10:08 AM

Looks like I'm bumping..

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 10:17 AM

bumping away , numbers dropping , lets stop the slide

irishwash

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 10:23 AM

bump

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 10:34 AM

Just votin' and bumpin'
and bumpin' and votin'....

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 10:41 AM

Not that rumors are much to hang a hat on, but it sounds like the Xena crew is setting it's sights on 300,000 as their next goal.

I did some math; we need to out vote the Xena team by about 300 votes a day* -on average- if we are going to get to 500,000 before them. If they continue keeping up their votes by "baby stepping" their goals from now until 500,000; then we are going to have to find a way to keep our votes consistently ahead of them.

*this assumes they vote around 1000/day; numbers change a bit if they go up or down.

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 11:26 AM

1211

We gotta find a way to get the count up near 2000 per day or we will not catch Xena. I'm happy to keep on voting regardless.

Is it possible to contact *dormant* members of this board ? People who've not used the board in say 12 months and ask them to pitch in ?

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 11:59 AM

still vumping

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 12:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Roy:

1211
We gotta find a way to get the count up near 2000 per day or we will not catch Xena. I'm happy to keep on voting regardless.

Is it possible to contact *dormant* members of this board ? People who've not used the board in say 12 months and ask them to pitch in ?

2000 would be goodness, I can go for that ;-)

"Possible", yes... and no. Yes in that the "admin" of this board requires everyone to provide an email address; no in the sense that generally the policy of boards is not to send emails. I don't recall if this board has such a policy or not; however, in any case you would have to get the admin (Haken?) to send it out. And obviously he (she? what do I know??) would know if it was within policy or not. As you might guess, I have no particular "in" with admin here.

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 1:04 PM

bump

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 2:15 PM

bump

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 2:17 PM

BBC voting, how often can you vote, any ideas?
Slowly sneaking up on Star wars

Richlabonte site won;t let me vote, maybe cause it just doesn;t like australian voters?
or am i being paranoid?

going for a nice little shuttle ride.....

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 3:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AkuKodogo:
BBC voting, how often can you vote, any ideas?
Slowly sneaking up on Star wars

I've done some messing around, I'm not convinced you can vote more than once based on the design of the voting system. Other folks have claimed to have made multiple votes.

Quote:

Richlabonte site won't let me vote, maybe cause it just doesn't like australian voters?
or am i being paranoid?

Tell us "how so" it doesn't let you vote? Does it say you have already voted? Does it say, "Talk like an American you nasty down under dude?" If the former, then I'd say someone else on your subnet is voting; sadly, the system is not designed to let multiple folks vote from the same subnet. If the latter, then you are appropriately paranoid and we are going to have to have a little "talk to" with FLaTRich (just kidding, I'm sure it's not the latter ;-) )

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 4:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AkuKodogo:
Richlabonte site won;t let me vote, maybe cause it just doesn;t like australian voters?
or am i being paranoid?

I'd go for B

I don't have any problems voting from NSW South Coast.

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 4:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by leadb:
Quote:
Originally posted by Roy:

1211
We gotta find a way to get the count up near 2000 per day or we will not catch Xena. I'm happy to keep on voting regardless.

Is it possible to contact *dormant* members of this board ? People who've not used the board in say 12 months and ask them to pitch in ?

2000 would be goodness, I can go for that ;-)

"Possible", yes... and no. Yes in that the "admin" of this board requires everyone to provide an email address; no in the sense that generally the policy of boards is not to send emails. I don't recall if this board has such a policy or not; however, in any case you would have to get the admin (Haken?) to send it out. And obviously he (she? what do I know??) would know if it was within policy or not. As you might guess, I have no particular "in" with admin here.

That's pretty much my thoughts on it. Perhaps rather than just a "please vote" type email, it could be a short newsletter to pick out some highlights of the past year in an effort to woo them back to the fold. I'll muse on this before I go hassling the administrator.

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 4:18 PM

Today's Numbers

Total Votes (Range to show)
Xena(1): 276,522 (54,424)
Firefly(2): 222,098 (0)

Closure Rate Today (Wk.Avg.) Avg.
Firefly(2): -->Xena(1): 39 (332) 171
…Fastest Closure (December 2, 2006): 826

Queer as Follk(10): Will fall from top 10. Soon! BSG @ 1,231

Days to Intercept Today (Wk.Avg.) Avg.
Xena(1): 1,395 (164) 318

Votes Gained Today (Wk.Avg.) Avg.
Xena(1): 1,172 (1,116) 809
…Best Day (March 30, 2007): 2,803 Record for all time best!

Firefly(2): 1,211 (1,448) 980
…Best Day (March 30, 2007): 2,359

Bonanza(3): 903 (969) 701
…Best Day (March 29, 2007): 1,185

I say we go for a 3K day. It'll be hard to do, take some time, but I'm sure it's doable. Along the way, we'll pick up some more regulars, get closer to 2k average.
Our overall Average is approaching 1,000/day. How shiny is that!?

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 4:28 PM

I say we make a big push to get to the Hall of Fame. We're less than a month from that point, it's not going to pull away from us, and getting people on board for a big month-long push is easy. Getting people on board for something that's going to take the better part of a year at this rate is less so.

Best part is that if we do make that big push we'll be showing numbers that indicate a much shorter amount of time to catch Xena too :)

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 7:06 PM

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Saturday, April 7, 2007 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by FlatTop:
I say we go for a 3K day. It'll be hard to do, take some time, but I'm sure it's doable. Along the way, we'll pick up some more regulars, get closer to 2k average.
Our overall Average is approaching 1,000/day. How shiny is that!?

I'm in for that. All the way to 3K.

How about Gina's Birthday 25th April ?

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Aiming for 3000 votes on Gina's Birthday
http://richlabonte.net/tvvote/index.html

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