Why is Serenity not on imdb top250? by Grotz

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Why is Serenity not on imdb top250?

POSTED BY: GROTZ
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 04:35
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Monday, April 9, 2007 2:14 PM

I will give an answer.
Three different numbers are attached too each movie.
1. rating (rat)
2. weighted average (wav)
3. arithmetic average (aav)

Here follows the top12+1 on imdb.
rat wav aav
The Godfather 9.1 9.1 8.6
Shawshank redemption 9.1 9.2 9.0
The Godfather II 9.0 9.0 8.7
Buono, il brutto... 8.8 8.9 8.9
Pulp Fiction 8.8 8.8 8.7
Return of the King 8.8 8.8 8.5
Casablanca 8.8 8.8 8.6
Schindler's List 8.8 8.8 8.5
Return of the Jedi 8.8 8.8 8.6
Seven Samurais 8.7 8.8 8.5
One flew over... 8.8 8.7 8.7
Starwars 8.7 8.8 8.6

Serenity 7.8 8.0 8.6

As can be seen the arithmetic mean of Serenity is in the big league,but not so much the rating or the weighted average.

"For this top 250, only votes from regular voters are considered." imdb.com

"Weighted Average Ratings
IMDb publishes weighted vote averages rather than raw data averages. Various filters are applied to the raw data in order to eliminate and reduce attempts at 'vote stuffing' by individuals more interested in changing the current rating of a movie than giving their true opinion of it.

The exact methods we use will not be disclosed. This should ensure that the policy remains effective. The result is a more accurate vote average." imdb.com

Serenity has the votes. The arithmetic average doesn't lie. Could be that many browncoats have rated only Serenity, and maybe even underrated other movies. That many of our votes have been filtered off.

What we have to do, is go to imdb.com and rate a lot of movies, to become regulars.

What I am gonna do is this, overrate movies that are no threat to Serenity and underrate movies above Serenity, not by much, give them 4 or 5.

Know this, it pains me to underrate certain movies, Matrix, LOTR, even Starwars.
But my purpose is clear, I want more of firefly and Serenity and the Captain and River and everybody.

Is it obsessive, yes.
Is it extreme, yes.

But in guerilla warfare, innocents will be harmed.
To battle. I love all you browncoats. Keep fighting, and keep flying.

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Monday, April 9, 2007 2:44 PM

DONCOAT

If this was intended to be a question, and if it pertains to Firefly rather than the BDM, my answer is:

Because the inmates are in charge of the asylum.

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Monday, April 9, 2007 3:13 PM

GROTZ

I guess the numbers doesnt make much sense.
The format blew up on me.
Im still editing.

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Monday, April 9, 2007 3:25 PM

GROTZ

Here follows the top12+1 on imdb.
rating weighted average arithmetic average
The Godfather
rating 9.1
weighted average 9.1
arithmetic average 8.6

Shawshank redemption
rating 9.1
weighted average 9.2
arithmetic average 9.0

The Godfather II
rating 9.0
weighted average 9.0
arithmetic average 8.7

Buono, il brutto...
rating 8.8
weighted average 8.9
arithmetic average 8.9

Pulp Fiction
rating 8.8
weighted average 8.8
arithmetic average 8.7

Return of the King
rating 8.8
weighted average 8.8
arithmetic average 8.5

Casablanca
rating 8.8
weighted average 8.8
arithmetic average 8.6

Schindler's List
rating 8.8
weighted average 8.8
arithmetic average 8.5

Return of the Jedi
rating 8.8
weighted average 8.8
arithmetic average 8.6

Seven Samurais
rating 8.7
weighted average 8.8
arithmetic average 8.5

One flew over...
rating 8.8
weighted average 8.7
arithmetic average 8.7

Starwars
rating 8.7
weighted average 8.8
arithmetic average 8.6

Serenity
rating 7.8
weighted average 8.0
arithmetic average 8.6

This is somewhat better.

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Monday, April 9, 2007 4:01 PM

CAUSAL

Don't know if you've noticed, but for some reason there is sort of an anti-fandom out there who deliberately sabotages the efforts of Browncoats when it comes to this sort of thing. Surely I can't have been the only one to notice?

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Monday, April 9, 2007 4:20 PM

GROTZ

Quote:
Originally posted by Causal:
Don't know if you've noticed, but for some reason there is sort of an anti-fandom out there who deliberately sabotages the efforts of Browncoats when it comes to this sort of thing. Surely I can't have been the only one to notice?

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Yes, I have noticed. Serenity has an unusual high frequency of 1 rates.
But that does not explain the low rating versus arithmetic average.

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Monday, April 9, 2007 4:38 PM

CAUSAL

Well, I suppose not, but I'm far more interested in why there would be such a large anti-fandom. What do you suppose would cause such a thing?

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Monday, April 9, 2007 7:53 PM

SIRNUKE

If you note Serenity's in-depth ratings ( http://imdb.com/title/tt0379786/ratings ), the Top 1000 User's average rating is 6.2. I believe this relatively low rating is backlash from so many people signing up on imdb just to vote 9s/10s for Serenity.

Additionally, I suspect any attempt to artificially increase Serenity's weighted average will lead to more backlash.

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Monday, April 9, 2007 9:01 PM

DARKFLY

Just thought I'd do this for people who still don't get it or can't be bothered to read if its okay Grotz

now I know for a fact that these so called regular voters make up just 1000 members out of all the members on imdb.com cause imdb used to say it on the FAQ, not anymore though but if you need proof then look at this picture(below) of Serenity's ratings towards the bottom you see "Top 1000 voters" Serenity only has a 6.2 average from the 1000 voters so its quite a way off 7.9 which would be needed to get into the top 250

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:25 AM

GROTZ

Thank you Darkfly, for the charts.
But it is not only top1000 that make the rating, then rating should be much lower.
I would think that the number of movies you have rated have much influence on the weighted average.
It makes sense, they want raters, not crazy fans who rate only the movies they like.
So to get the weighted average up we must be perceived more as raters, by rating as many movies as possible.

There seem to many haters among the top1000, 48 out of 346, (13.9%) have given a rating of 1. That is many, 3% is the norm.

The anti-fandom is completely incomprehendable to me. Going out of your way, to take something down other people love, make no sense to me.
Still we are obsessive. Take that poll about female action heroes, Summers name is not in list still she leads over Sarah(Buffy). If Summer wins that one, I think we will hear something.
Keep flying.

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 4:35 AM

TRUEBLUE

Eh, I have a number i have voted for already, I like expressing my opinion.

And I ranked them all honestly. If I thought they were comparatively good or bad I rated them as such.

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