The Order of Things by GrayFury

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The Order of Things

POSTED BY: GRAYFURY
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Saturday, December 24, 2005 8:56 AM

Previous posts I've seen have led me to this... If someone from this site could paste this somewhere as a link for new fans that would be super-duper....Ok....here we go again. Someone should sticky a link for the order and location of things.

1) Watch the series IN ORDER as they are formated in the DVD box set.

2) Watch ALL the Bonus material on DVD box set

3) Repeat step 1 but this time with all the commentary tracks ON.

4) Get Extended Gag reel from Firefly on a site that downloads video... I like Limewire. Or go here...

5) Get Volume 1 & 2 of the Firefly visual companion... http://www.amazon.com/Firefly-Official-Companion-Joss-Whedon/dp/184576
3149/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211682420&sr=1-1 & http://www.amazon.com/Firefly-Official-Companion-Joss-Whedon/dp/184576
3726/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211682420&sr=1-2

6) Read "DEAD OR ALIVE" unfilmed script... Link is here... http://www.fireflyfans.net/feature.asp?f=45

7) Watch the River Tam sessions... In Order... Link Is here...

8) Read All 3 Dark Horse comics entitled Serenity: Those left behind, Or get the trade paperback/ graphic novel,Serenity: Those left behind.

9) Read All 3 Dark Horse comics entitled Serenity: Better Days, Or get the trade paperback/ graphic novel,Serenity: Better days

10) Read The Online 8 page web based comic, downloaded here ... http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/13/2048723/Serenity-TheOtherHalf.p
df

11) Watch the BDM (thats what us Browncoats call the Serenity movie... It means BIG DAMN MOVIE. Derived from the line by Zoe in the episode "Safe"... "Big Damn Heroes, Sir!")The Collectors edition in the big black box is the best version so far, more bonus material, like the River Tam sessions I spoke of earlier.

12) Watch all Bonus material on the BDM DVD

13) Repeat step 10 But this time with Joss Whedons commentary track on

14) Read the novelazation of the BDM, There are a few Non-Joss insights that are aluded to in the book.

15) Read "Finding Serenity" & "Serenity Found" edited by Jane Espenson, They are a clever compilation of essays written by different folk influenced by Firefly/Serenity http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1932100431/fireflyfansne-20?cre
ative=327641&camp=14573&link_code=as1

16) Pick up the visual companion, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1845760824/sr=8-8/qid=1154104359/ref=
pd_bbs_8/104-7343664-1526304?ie=UTF8 and the movie magazine for Serenity... Nothing in there that any diehard Browncoat wont already know, But a joy none-the less.

17) Read "the Killer Angels" By Michael Shaara. It is a book that Joss read, and was moved by the mood, and honesty of, to the point of inspiration.

18) Buy the soundtracks to Firefly and Serenity... Listen to them in your car... pretend your flying

19) Buy all 5 action figures, thats 2 Mals 2 Jaynes and a Reaver.... Make them fight on your desk at work

20) Pick up the role playing game manual... Some feel this important

21) Go to http://www.donetheimpossible.com ...Order your copy of the DVD

22) Go to http://www.quantummechanix.com/serenity.html and buy lots of really cool Licensed Serenity collectible items, from prop weapons, to posters and prints, to maquettes and statues.

23) Buy a BLUE SUN shirt on ebay and wear it while rocking back and forth in the dark, in the fetal postion, thumb in your mouth, wondering how this show was not the slamdunk hit of the decade.

24) Repeat step 22

25) Repeat step 23

Now Any of you Browncoats noticed that I missed anything....lemmee know and I'll paste it in. (If I deem it to be something that enhances the verse') Some of you may have a beef with the order I placed 2 through 5 in. Its just a preference... any mixing of 2-5 wont hinder shit. Same goes for 8 through 13. Enjoy!!

"Smellin' alot of IF comin' offa' this plan!"

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Saturday, December 24, 2005 9:02 AM

OOKAMIKAWAHARA

Yeah, quickly you forgot to mention the step of buying the BDH figures and Poster as well to keep the sanity intact and going!!! Otherwise looks good. I would slide this one in at #15 but which ever you prefer. Here ya go and have a Shiny Holiday GrayFury!!!
mata, Ookami yori

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Sunday, December 25, 2005 8:44 AM

GRAYFURY

Ok...check!

"Smellin' alot of IF comin' offa' this plan!"

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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 5:11 AM

GRAYFURY

I've been catching some flack for saying that the visual companion was superfluous... I take it back, there are some good insights, photos, and references.... I'm fixing it now!

"Smellin' alot of IF comin' offa' this plan!"

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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 5:34 AM

BWARE42

Can't find the gag reel - all the mirrors are broken. ANy suggestions?

Bring the Big Damn Heroes back!

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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:00 AM

EMBERS

Quote:
Originally posted by GrayFury:
I've been catching some flack for saying that the visual companion was superfluous... I take it back, there are some good insights, photos, and references.... I'm fixing it now!

"Smellin' alot of IF comin' offa' this plan!"

thanks for the list, it is very complete...
and thanks for including the recommendation for the Visual Companion, because personally I think owning the original shooting script, and all of his technical notes (just saying how he would light a character reveals so much about how he sees that character) are well worth the very reasonable price.

I'm book marking this thread so we can post it for newbies...who'll keep showing up as they watch Firefly on Sci-fi channel or see the Serenity DVD

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watch the R. Tam Session vids: http://www.hittarivertam.nu/
and buy the 'Serenity' comics published by Dark Horse,
and have you joined the Browncoats yet?
http://browncoats.serenitymovie.com/serenity/?fuseaction=tools.invlink
&u=embers&linkID=36

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Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:21 AM

SERENYTY

Good job. This is definately the way to go!

I'm happy that I actually did things in this order! (I saw the TV show before the movie. I saw it first on Sci-fi channel, then I ordered the box set after seeing 2 episodes)

~A message from Serenyty~

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Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:58 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...

I would like to humbly suggest that inbetween those steps you listen to the following internet radio stations:

http://www.scifiradio.com
includes tracks from scifi and fantasy tv/films intermixed with lines from Firefly/Serenity

or the new "browncoat radio" station:
http://www.live365.com/stations/mr_universe
I've just started listening to this station (very cool) - a mix of music you'd expect from the 'verse itself - folk/asian/country etc.

It's up to you whether you wear your headphones over or under your Jayne hat

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.net

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Saturday, December 31, 2005 5:11 AM

SUBTORPMAN

Thanks for the suggestions. I've made a check list and I'm marking them off

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Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:38 AM

DIETCOKE

Get the poster, key chain, bandana, pin, trading card and official tee-shirt.

NY/NJ/CT Browncoats: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/firefly_nyc

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Thursday, April 6, 2006 7:51 AM

Q2JESTER

I shocked... SHOCKED, that's no one has suggested the podcasts...

The Signal at: http://signal.serenityfirefly.com/

and Firefly Talk at: http://fireflytalk.libsyn.com/

Well worth a listen... Add to the list at the end. Blue Sun shirt, dark corner, rock back and forth - but with your iPod.

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Thursday, April 6, 2006 8:05 AM

MAL4PREZ

I would add a "repeat step 1" several times throughout...

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I'm the president. I don't need to listen.

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Thursday, April 6, 2006 9:09 AM

11THHOUR

May I suggest adding this to your very comprehensive list:

"Buy the Serenity Role Playing Game book."

Then add whatever extra comment you think fits... this game is, after all, for the die hard fans who really want to role play and immerse themselves in the 'verse.

11th Hour

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"Because teenage pranks are fun when you're about to die!" - Hoban Washburne

Firefly/Serenity Guerilla Marketing Posters ~ http://the11thhour.home.att.net
Serenity Inspired Cafe Press Shop ~ http://www.cafepress.com/11thhourart

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Thursday, April 6, 2006 2:21 PM

GRAYFURY

Ok Ok Ok... Lets focus here... There are an INFINATE Number of things that could be added to this list... Like the roleplaying game, and the podcasts, and the fan fic... Nothing against any of them, all wonderful contributions... But not the route that I was looking for. Try not to have hurt feelings.

"Smellin' alot of IF comin' offa' this plan!"

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Thursday, April 6, 2006 3:23 PM

11THHOUR

Quote:
Originally posted by GrayFury:
Ok Ok Ok... Lets focus here... There are an INFINATE Number of things that could be added to this list... Like the roleplaying game, and the podcasts, and the fan fic... Nothing against any of them, all wonderful contributions... But not the route that I was looking for. Try not to have hurt feelings.

Okay, it's your list and you can do whatever you want.

However....

Quote:
Originally posted by GrayFury:
Now Any of you Browncoats noticed that I missed anything....lemmee know and I'll paste it in.

You may want to revise this statement in your first post to more specifically describe what you're looking for. This will save folks from making additional suggestions that you don't want on the list.

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"Because teenage pranks are fun when you're about to die!" - Hoban Washburne

Firefly/Serenity Guerilla Marketing Posters ~ http://the11thhour.home.att.net
Serenity Inspired Cafe Press Shop ~ http://www.cafepress.com/11thhourart

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Thursday, April 6, 2006 3:28 PM

MILFORD

Great plan, sounds just like what all Browncoats should be doing...weekly...if it weren't for those pesky occupations

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By the way, I was totally unaware of the Dead or Alive script. Thanks for the heads up!

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Thursday, April 6, 2006 7:53 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA

Uh, just a little thing I noticed, not to be a bitch but you have "Get extended gag real" and read "Dead or Alive" both as number 4, unless you meant it to be that way, otherwise nevermind.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

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Saturday, April 8, 2006 12:20 PM

GRAYFURY

Quote:
Originally posted by 11thHour:
Quote:
Originally posted by GrayFury:
Ok Ok Ok... Lets focus here... There are an INFINATE Number of things that could be added to this list... Like the roleplaying game, and the podcasts, and the fan fic... Nothing against any of them, all wonderful contributions... But not the route that I was looking for. Try not to have hurt feelings.

Okay, it's your list and you can do whatever you want.

However....

Quote:
Originally posted by GrayFury:
Now Any of you Browncoats noticed that I missed anything....lemmee know and I'll paste it in.

You may want to revise this statement in your first post to more specifically describe what you're looking for. This will save folks from making additional suggestions that you don't want on the list.

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHH! ... I told ya not to get your feelings hurt. Shit, If I knew it was going to be that kind of party I would have stuck my dick in the mashed potatoes!!

"Smellin' alot of IF comin' offa' this plan!"

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Saturday, April 8, 2006 9:55 PM

11THHOUR

Quote:
Originally posted by GrayFury:
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHH! ... I told ya not to get your feelings hurt. Shit, If I knew it was going to be that kind of party I would have stuck my dick in the mashed potatoes!!

My feelings ain't hurt dude... it's not that important. I just don't need to take the time to do somethin' when it isn't necessary is all. I'm into saving time these days.

... and now I know not to eat the mashed potatoes...

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Tuesday, May 2, 2006 1:52 AM

SACREDCHAO

While I have done quite a bit of this already, I plan on doing more as Summer brings more free time.

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Tuesday, May 2, 2006 2:48 AM

JAZZ

Alternate number 7: buying the trade paperback is considered a perfectly shiny alternative.

(I assume. It's a thing of beauty, anyway.)

I got most of it in the right order, at least... ;)

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Tuesday, May 2, 2006 6:15 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Well, it won’t matter that you have mashed potatoes on your wiener, because you have egg all over your face.

It was really quite a good list, as were all the suggested additions, but I really must agree with 11th hour. If you didn’t want suggestions, you should have said, "here is the order you should do all the 'Verse related things in for optimum enjoyment. You may want to add more to your list, but mine is final."

And, if I may say, there was no need for vulgarity.

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Tuesday, May 2, 2006 6:51 AM

DIGIFICWRITER

Edit: Never mind

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Friday, July 28, 2006 6:32 AM

GRAYFURY

Bump...I added a link for "done the impossible" and the firefly visual companion...(huh huh huh...he said companion!)

"Smellin' alot of IF comin' offa' this plan!"

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Friday, July 28, 2006 7:04 AM

EMBERS

I'm glad to see this thread bumped!
I'm not sure all the newbies manage to find all the goodies available....

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Sunday, July 30, 2006 3:57 AM

FIZZIX

The: "I'm gonna see Serenity" ought to run our lives. If not, it ought to at least describe it.

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Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:24 AM

PENGUIN

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1932100431/fireflyfansne-20?cre
ative=327641&camp=14573&link_code=as1

Here's the link to "Finding Serenity". I'm about 2/3 the way through the book and I've found it to be a great read. It's great to see outside views of our little world and see validation of our BDH love...

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Sunday, July 30, 2006 11:31 AM

GRAYFURY

Quote:
Originally posted by Penguin:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1932100431/fireflyfansne-20?cre
ative=327641&camp=14573&link_code=as1

Here's the link to "Finding Serenity". I'm about 2/3 the way through the book and I've found it to be a great read. It's great to see outside views of our little world and see validation of our BDH love...

Thanks for the shiny link...Pasted in!

"Smellin' alot of IF comin' offa' this plan!"

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Sunday, August 27, 2006 7:11 AM

LADYSINGS

I know this is a small thing but you may want to add the Easter Eggs from the DVD's to this list. They are a tiny but worthwhile thing for every FFF to watch!

"Well ya know, we studied bludgeoning in the academy first year but by the time you graduate, you just forget everything. I'm a bad cop." ----Lawrence Dobson

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Saturday, September 9, 2006 12:45 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Bump

Health is the greatest gift, contentment the greatest wealth, faithfulness the best relationship. - Gautama Siddharta

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Saturday, September 9, 2006 1:50 AM

CAUSAL

Quote:
Originally posted by GrayFury:
1) Watch the series IN ORDER as they are formated in the DVD box set.

Sorry, but the only quibble I have is here. The box set has Objects in Space coming after The Message, but in the Firefly 'verse The Message the message should be last, chronologically speaking. I know there are all sorts of objections, but sorry--that's how I watch 'em, and that's how I introduce people to the BDS.

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Saturday, September 9, 2006 2:00 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Joss liked Objects in Space more, which is why he put it last, I think. I agree that the Message comes after it, but it's not really a good ending point for the series...

Health is the greatest gift, contentment the greatest wealth, faithfulness the best relationship. - Gautama Siddharta

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Saturday, September 9, 2006 2:12 AM

CAUSAL

Well, I don't want to re-fight this point, but I think that 'verse chronology has to come before emotional satisfaction (for me, anyway). Y'all are free, of course, to watch them in any order you please.

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Saturday, September 9, 2006 4:27 AM

GRAYFURY

I agree and disagree with both sides of the "Message OiS, OiS Message" debate... The message WAS meant to be AFTER OiS, There are continuity issues, like Rivers Sanity just being point of fact in the message. So technically OiS should be BEFORE the message. Heres the rub... the series ENDS after the message. Joss "the boss" felt that the one show was a stronger way to END the series....and I agree. If the show were to go on, even just finish out the season... The order would be different. but ending on the bitter sweet "I can win this!" almost seems like a perfect (albiet unwanted) last page to the book that is the series... there for I stamnd by my descion... also its less confusing for the newly "recruited" to NOT hear the sentance "when you get to the 2nd to the last episode on the last disc, skip that, go watch the last, when thats done go back and watch the second to the last!" I've watched it in both orders many times... Joss was right to order them like they are, he always is. Clever bastard that he is. And casual, I fully resect that you like to keep things chronological. (I mean its got the word logical in it) And continuity is VERY important to me too, but in a perfect world we'd all be sitting on our couches every Friday night (I'd like it to be on Friday) watching Fox's 4th season of Firefly, then the 5th, the 6th, the 7th.....

"Smellin' alot of IF comin' offa' this plan!"

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Saturday, September 9, 2006 6:35 AM

ANONYMOUS1

Quote:
Now Any of you Browncoats noticed that I missed anything....lemmee know and I'll paste it in. (If I deem it to be something that enhances the verse')

GrayFury,

How about keep checking http://www.serenitystuff.com to see what
new stuff keeps popping up in the verse.

And keep hoping!!! Like hope for this:

“We’re also hoping to come out with a large scale, 16 to 18” model of the ship, light-emitting, spinning engine, very detailed. That’ll be an expensive project, that’ll be next year.”

http://www.serenitystuff.com/2006/09/06/new-licensed-serenity-props-fr
om-qmx/#more-995
New licensed Serenity props from QMx

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Saturday, September 9, 2006 7:46 AM

GRAYFURY

I saw those...its very exciting...I'm looking forward to the official "Mal's gun" prop.

"Smellin' alot of IF comin' offa' this plan!"

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Sunday, April 29, 2007 11:40 AM

COWSRHOT

On the Message/Objects in Space debate:
I really felt like OiS was more like the beginning of the movie than the end of the show, if you know what I mean.
And you can't end on that laying-Tracey-on-his-planet-with-snow-and-sadviolin scene.
And Joss is a veritable GENIUS, and I'm not one to question his artistic desires

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Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:30 PM

REDHEAD

I just wanted to bump this thread. As a newbie, it took me 2 months, till yesterday, to even find out about DEAD OR ALIVE. And this list has lots of other good info for new fans.

To paraphrase Kaylee: Whedon's Firefly is just so lush. I want to take a bite out of it all over, you know?

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Monday, April 30, 2007 12:40 AM

GRAYFURY

Wow, Thanks for the bump....I forgot all about this post...I may have to add some things.... the QMX props, some of the podcasts, the prop store of London, etc... we'll see.

"Smellin' alot of IF comin' offa' this plan!"

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Monday, April 30, 2007 10:43 AM

REDHEAD

If there's more please, pretty please post them. I've never hung out on a fan site before and am stumbling around trying to find goodies. Anything to keep the 'verse alive even just a moment longer!!!

To paraphrase Kaylee: Whedon's Firefly is just so lush. I want to take a bite out of it all over, you know?

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Wednesday, May 9, 2007 6:20 PM

REDHEAD

Hey I'm bumping this because I want another thread to see it. I think its awesome.

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Wednesday, July 11, 2007 3:13 PM

KOILA

HI,

BUMP

A somewhat newbie / more lurker then anything and I found this thread through this link:

http://boards.nbcuni.com/universalHD/index.php?showtopic=176

from Universal who posted a link from the site "News of the verse"

Good advise here.

Thanks All!!!

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:41 PM

WORLDOFHIGLET

Awesome advice and detail in this post.

Coupla questions:

Will there be a test?
Are we supposed to o done all this before we post?

I'm pretty much screwed if the answer to either of these is yes.....

You are beholden to no man
http://worldofhiglet.blogspot.com/

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:16 PM

TRAVELER

Grayfury:

If you are going to read "The Killer Angels" then you should get an understanding of the Civil War.

1.Read "Civil War" by Bruce Catton. This give an excellent account of the war fought in the east.

2. Read "Stonewall in the Valley" by Robert G. Tanner. Another excellent book that gives an account of Stonewall Jackson's campaign in the Shenandaoh Valley.

3. Probably will want to follow this up "Stonewall Jackson" by John Bowers. Get to know thw man who fought some of the greatess campaigns during the Civil War.

4. Then "Longstreet from Manassas to Appomattox". Gives a good account of the leading general in Lee's command and who's corp did most of the fighting at Gettysburg.

5. If you are interested in the war of the west then "Sherman Soldier Realiest American" by B. H. Liddel Hart. Hart is one of the foremost authors of military science.

6. One final chapter of the Civil War I would recommend is "Shrouds of Glory" by Winston Groom. This is probably the saddest, yet factual, account of the death of the Confederate cause. It is the history of the Confederate army of the west and how it was slowly destroyed by overwelming odds and negligence.

So now when you read the "The Killer Angels" you will have a feel for what is taking place on the the field of battle during the Civil War.

Oh Yea! Bump!
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Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:51 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Why not read Serenity Found after Finding Serenity?

River Tam Sessions are on the BDM CE DVD.

Why not read the Firefly Companions Vol 1&2 before watching BDM, instead of after reading BDM VC? You also don't mention moving the DTI DVD-ROM to the computer to check out all the extra stuff.

You know Done The Impossible has a soundtrack, with a bunch of them Bedlam Bards and that Celtic/Filk band?

Tell us about the Easter Eggs, and how to find them.

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Friday, February 29, 2008 3:00 AM

BIVIUM6

OMG I've never read Dead or Alive before!!!!! This is the best day every, new Firefly for me.

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Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:11 PM

PHYRELIGHT

Don't forget to add the Better Days comic and the BDM-CE.

"I swear, having you guys in my corner is like being friends with Zorro."
-Joss on us fans and our persistent reputation
Thanks, Joss!

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Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:31 PM

EMBERS

and Joss is already planning a comic book series about Book's secret past! I can't wait!

New Firefly fans should check this out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=15816

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Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:42 PM

CALDAR22

Great Post....Keep up the good work...

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Saturday, May 24, 2008 1:17 PM

OUT2THEBLACK

Quote:
Originally posted by GrayFury:
Previous posts I've seen have led me to this... If someone from this site could paste this somewhere as a link for new fans that would be super-duper....Ok....here we go again. Someone should sticky a link for the order and location of things...

...18) Go to http://www.donetheimpossible.com ...Order your copy of thr DVD

Get the 'DTI' Soundtrack CD , also !
It's a treat !

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