What if... Firefly had been British? by Cruithne3753

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What if... Firefly had been British?

POSTED BY: CRUITHNE3753
UPDATED: Thursday, May 31, 2007 22:49
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Sunday, May 27, 2007 7:15 AM

What might the cast have looked like? Anyone got better ideas? There are two I can't think of though...

Mal - Clive Owen
Zoe - Alex Kingston
Wash - Eddie Izzard
Kaylee - Anna Friel
Jayne - Ross Kemp
Inara - Parminder Nagra
Book - Don Warrington
Simon - ???
River - ???

(One or two of these names might be unknown outside the UK... you can always Wiki for them)

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 8:19 AM

PENGUIN

They all would have talked funny!

Would Badger be American???

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 8:22 AM

COSMICFUGITIVE

Fawlty Towers In Space.

Seriously though, I can see Lee Evans play Wash. He's a great serious actor and a stand up. He could capture Wash's personality. Hehehehe. I just thought of another person.. Could Jonathan Ross play Wash?

The lead actor from Life on Mars, John Simm, would make a good Simon methinks.

Hugh Laurie would make a really cool Badger. I can see it now!

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 8:26 AM

CAPTAINCOUPI

Quote:
Originally posted by Penguin:

Would Badger be American???

Nah, Badger would be an Aussie.

YoSaffBridg would stay as an American I think as would Early.

Izzard = Wash. Hmm, bit to big I think. Need someone on par with or smaller than Zoe.

Ricky Gervais as Monty. Not as big but I think he'd be able to bring a strange kind of humour to the part.

Simon and River are a tough one?

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 9:49 AM

DEEPGIRL187

Maybe Cillian Murphy or Jonathan Rhys-Meyers for Simon?

And Hugh Laurie as Badger would so totally rock.

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:00 AM

CHRISISALL

It would have been WAAAAY talkier, and the FX would have been just okay, and Badger would have been a Yank. Plus, it would have been shot on video, and introduced by Alistair Cooke.

Pip pip Chrisisall

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:06 AM

ODDSBODSKINS

It would have run for two seasons, instead of a half, so we'd only have 12 episodes.

They may think their sins are original, but for the most part they are petty and repetitive.

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:10 AM

LWAVES

A great twist. Imagine the variety of accents!!!

I think the original list has too many soap 'actors' in it (shudders at the thought), but each to their own.

My take would be (incl some already mentioned):

Mal: Ewan Macgregor
Zoe: Naomie Harris
Wash: Simon Pegg
Jayne: Sean Bean (not sure about if he can pull of the humour though)
Kaylee: Laura Fraser or Emma Pierson
Inara: Sophia Myles or Rachel Weisz
Simon: Cillian Murphy
River: Stephanie Leonidas
Book: Pete Postlethwaite or Peter Mullen

Monty: Brian Blessed or Richard Griffiths
Saffron:
Badger: Sean Pertwee or Tim Roth or Keith Allen
Early:
Niska: Christopher Lee
Crow: Pat Roach

Can't think of anyone suitable for Saffron or Early.

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:11 AM

PENNAUSAMIKE

Firefly British?

Pretty much forget the guns!

Mike

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:32 AM

HAWKWING

Guns are for show.

Knives for a pro.

Thats my lock stock addition to the british firefly.

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:17 AM

CHAPTERANDVERSE

Some of the actors who have been named here-Cillian Murphy, Jonathan R. Myers-are actually Irish.

Now, the Irish Firefly would have been interesting!
A lot more scenes in pubs, a great deal more dialogue, and, due to the tiny budget, the excellent Brendan Glesson would play all the roles!
(Inara would be a particular triumph)

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:28 AM

PIRATECAT

Yeh another gay captain from Britain just peachy. Picard homilies whoopdy do. Mal and Kirk are Canadian but hey they pass for bad asses.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:32 AM

TRAVELER

It would probably show on our Public Broadcasting Network. It is where most of the better British programing ends up. It is where I watched Dr Who.

I would love an Irish version. Balykissangel in space. You could use a lot of the same characters with changing the show. I think it would work.

Traveler

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:38 PM

SCHOONER

Hugh Grant as Niska. Just think of the horror.

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:40 PM

CAPTAINCOUPI

If Firefly had been British:

Mal: Do you expect me to talk Nishka.

Nishka: No I expect you to die Mr Reynolds.

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:45 PM

SPEAKFIRE

I completely can't see cillian Murphy as Simon... he's not uptight enough.

Now Jamie Bamber I can see as Simon. He does uptight very well :)

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 3:58 PM

STINKINGROSE

You have got to get Derek Jacobi in there somewhere.

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 6:19 PM

BLACKBEANIE

If Firefly had been British:

Mal: You know, Inara, we could have sexual intercourse right now.
Inara: Yes, yes we could.
Mal: Hmm, but let's not.

Thank you Family Guy.

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 6:57 PM

PEULSAR5

We sniff the air, we don't kiss the dirt.

O.K., I'll play:

Judi Dench as Patience

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 9:18 PM

BLINDOUTLAW

Quote:
Originally posted by blackbeanie:
If Firefly had been British:

Mal: You know, Inara, we could have sexual intercourse right now.
Inara: Yes, yes we could.
Mal: Hmm, but let's not.

Thank you Family Guy.

Haha, i'll can go one more, the scene were we first see Inara with her client

Man: Almost, almost, almost........ finished
Inara: Oh good show

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 9:27 PM

DARKFLY

Quote:
Originally posted by Cruithne3753:
What might the cast have looked like? Anyone got better ideas? There are two I can't think of though...

Mal - Clive Owen
Zoe - Alex Kingston
Wash - Eddie Izzard
Kaylee - Anna Friel
Jayne - Ross Kemp
Inara - Parminder Nagra
Book - Don Warrington
Simon - ???
River - ???

I think it might have been like Red Drawf if it was a English show, popular in UK but not abroad since Red Drawf was very different type of sci-fi than the norm and so was Firefly, plus we Brits never really had Firefly in Britain properly since only a few people watch the Sci-fi channel so nobody knows if Firefly would have been popular in the UK, personally I think it would have been popular since in 2002 the BBC & C4 were still actually showning sci-fi programs & anything on those channels which was sci-fi was always popular..

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Monday, May 28, 2007 4:42 AM

LWAVES

Quote:
Originally posted by chapterandverse:
Some of the actors who have been named here-Cillian Murphy, Jonathan R. Myers-are actually Irish.

If the real cast can use Canadian actors (Nathan and Jewel) then we can go across the water and have some good Irish talent in there.

I love how you Americans think of we Brits as uptight and proper. Makes me larf and want to use phrases like "I say old chap", "Jolly hockey sticks" and "By jove".
Now where did I put my bowler hat?

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Monday, May 28, 2007 5:08 AM

CHAPTERANDVERSE

Quote:
Originally posted by lwaves:
Quote:
Originally posted by chapterandverse:
Some of the actors who have been named here-Cillian Murphy, Jonathan R. Myers-are actually Irish.

If the real cast can use Canadian actors (Nathan and Jewel) then we can go across the water and have some good Irish talent in there.

I love how you Americans think of we Brits as uptight and proper. Makes me larf and want to use phrases like "I say old chap", "Jolly hockey sticks" and "By jove".
Now where did I put my bowler hat?

Thats true!
The Irish have the same problem by the way. We are all supposed to be constantly saying "begorrah" and "top of the mornin to ya" while wearing green and dancing with leprechauns (which actually only happens every few months of so)

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Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:15 AM

CERES

And the Alliance officers would have to stop for tea at 4 o'clock so Mal and Zoe could plan all their heists for that time.

The only actor that I can think of who reminds me a bit of River is Hannah Murray who played Cassie in the E4 series of Skins. Wrong hair colour but the same slightly ethereal look.

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Tuesday, May 29, 2007 3:34 AM

CHAPTERANDVERSE

Quote:
Originally posted by ceres:
And the Alliance officers would have to stop for tea at 4 o'clock so Mal and Zoe could plan all their heists for that time.

The only actor that I can think of who reminds me a bit of River is Hannah Murray who played Cassie in the E4 series of Skins. Wrong hair colour but the same slightly ethereal look.

That is a damn good suggestion. She would be pretty perfect for the role. Ioan Gruffudd would make a pretty good Simon I think, although he is a bit older.

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Tuesday, May 29, 2007 5:40 AM

LWAVES

The Alliance would definitely suit being British bureaucrats and politicians. All aloof and smug in their power. The corruption is already there so not far to go!!

And the tea cups (not mugs) they use would be held between thumb and first finger, the other fingers stretching out to the side, away from the cup.
Cucumber sandwiches, cut diagonally, with no crusts would be daintily placed on a plate. Another plate would contain jam and cream scones.
One would then proceed to talk about the cricket, the weather or the Royal Family.

This might mean a return of Wolfie Smith as a retired Browncoat (although he would have been called a Greencoat) showing Mal the way to go.

Power To The People!!!

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Tuesday, May 29, 2007 5:53 AM

CERES

That is a hilarious picture in my brain, Lwaves

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Tuesday, May 29, 2007 6:14 AM

MRBLUESUN

If Joss had still been writing and directing it probably would have turned out to be pretty good, at the very least you would have gotten more than half a season (we don't have ass hole tv corporations like Fox over here). Although that said if Whedon was writing i would be slightly worried given his generally woeful portrayal of British people in the past (Giles and Wesley, need i say more... Spike was sorta okay). I expect that the Canadian actors could still be in it (thank God for the Commonwealth), and if you got the people who did the new series of Dr Who to do the special effects it would probably reach a similar standard.
Plus we would have allowed the original pilot to be aired since we are not afraid of character exposition.
Oh, and if any of you dare to make another joke about the accent, or the culture i will reach through my broad band connection and strangle you. After all your nation is hardly the pinacle of civilisation, is it now?

I may wear brown, but theres a little purple mixed in ther too.

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Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:27 AM

LAWMAN

A great question, deserves a response.
You'd see alot of complaining about why the picture really looks so grainy. More mustaches. A telephone booth located inside serenity. Jayne would speak in a Cockney accent. Chinese vernacular would sound polished (but no freaking way England would have ended up being one of the two final superpowers).and Mal would be wearing not a brown coat, but some form of tweed.

Everyone dies alone

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Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:56 AM

DEEPGIRL187

Quote:
Originally posted by Cruithne3753: Mal - Clive Owen

I don't know. He could do the whole intense, tortured thing, but not so much with the funny.

Quote:
Originally posted by chapterandverse:
Ioan Gruffudd would make a pretty good Simon I think, although he is a bit older.

Much as I like the actor, I think it'd be typecasting him a little. Mr. Fantastic was more than a little uptight.

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Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:24 PM

CERES

Jayne with a Cockney accent, what a great idea.
I didn't think Joss' portrayal of British people such as Giles and Wesley was woeful. They started off very uptight and reserved but a bit of character development soon gave them some human warmth.

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Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:57 AM

GRIZWALD

Can we pleeeeeze squeeze Chris Eccleston in here somewhere?

I dunno where. Just somewhere.

Preferably in a scene were we get to see his nekkid bum again, like in Elizabeth.

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Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:00 AM

GRIZWALD

Which reminds me, Billie Piper could do Kaylee, you know.

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Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:26 AM

ODDSBODSKINS

Guys the jokes about different styles of television, differences in series structure and so on are all cool, but why the stereotyped cultural shit? It's bloody unnecessary.

They may think their sins are original, but for the most part they are petty and repetitive.

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Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:55 AM

DEEPGIRL187

Quote:
Originally posted by Grizwald:
Can we pleeeeeze squeeze Chris Eccleston in here somewhere?

I dunno where. Just somewhere.

Preferably in a scene were we get to see his nekkid bum again, like in Elizabeth.

Grizwald, you're the shinyest. I was just telling my mom Chris Eccleston would so rock in Firefly (or for that matter, anything Joss related). And a naked bum would be nice. Between him and Nathan, there'd be almost too much droolyness (is that a word?).

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Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:05 AM

SCHOONER

Yanno, Ewan Macgregor as Mal and Jude Law as Simon could actually work pretty well. Think of the dialogue between the characters in 'Safe', I think it would work with them.

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Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:48 PM

CERES

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Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:50 PM

CERES

Quote:
Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
Guys the jokes about different styles of television, differences in series structure and so on are all cool, but why the stereotyped cultural shit? It's bloody unnecessary.

They may think their sins are original, but for the most part they are petty and repetitive.

Because it's funny? I thought one of the plus points of the stereotypical British person is the self-deprecating humour. Didn't mean to offend anyone.

Anyway, Giles reminded me quite a lot of my uncle in his speech and mannerisms so I found his character interesting.

I agree with Judi Dench for Patience. Not only does she look the part but I could imagine her running her own little moon.

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Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:10 AM

ODDSBODSKINS

I'm all in favour of taking the piss out of myself, but taking the piss out of something I'm not doesn't really come under self-deprecating. It's odd actually, I'm normally not very sensitive to this kind of thing, frequently the first to make jokes about Scottish or 'British' stereotypes, but I guess the difference, at the end of the day (and much as I don't like admitting it) is that it's me doing it.

Sorry like, but thanks for answering, nothing worse then posting something like that and being bypassed

They may think their sins are original, but for the most part they are petty and repetitive.

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Thursday, May 31, 2007 2:42 PM

BROWNCOATSANDINISTA

David Tennant could play a different kind of Doctor. As far as Early goes, perhaps Adrian Lester? And Monty could be Robbie Coltrane((Yeah I know, He's a Scott)). Saffron could be portrayed by Keira Knightley. Niska could be Sir Ian McKellen. I don't know about the rest of the crew, but I think it's better the way it was cast.

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Thursday, May 31, 2007 10:25 PM

CERES

Quote:
Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
I'm all in favour of taking the piss out of myself, but taking the piss out of something I'm not doesn't really come under self-deprecating. It's odd actually, I'm normally not very sensitive to this kind of thing, frequently the first to make jokes about Scottish or 'British' stereotypes, but I guess the difference, at the end of the day (and much as I don't like admitting it) is that it's me doing it.

Sorry like, but thanks for answering, nothing worse then posting something like that and being bypassed

They may think their sins are original, but for the most part they are petty and repetitive.

I guess we're all allowed to be sensitive when it comes to Firefly, me included. Now we're pretty much down to ritual suicide, lambie-toes.

If we can have a British Serenity too, I think David Tennant would make a great Mr Universe but I couldn't stand to have him killed near the end.

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Thursday, May 31, 2007 10:49 PM

BLINDOUTLAW

would the alliance remain called the alliance?

maybe it'll be called the commonwealth or something (sterotype to the max!!

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