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Imponderable Watercooler: Low Spark Of High Heeled Boys

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Friday, June 15, 2007 4:00 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


mornin' Imponderables.

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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
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This is the 37th post in this thread.
37
*giggles like a lunatic*


*hugs* RIMG heart the Askewniverse

~jimi

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Friday, June 15, 2007 4:05 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Quote:

Originally posted by Penguin:
So...How many of you here were ALIVE in 1971 when this song came out?!?!!?



Ummm...I think my mom was nine.

Morning, all. Sitting here posting while I should be working. Then again, if I'm lucky, my boss won't be in today and I can hand in that stupid project on Monday. Minimum wage isn't enough for the inane things they pay me to do. But then, I'm also glad I have a paycheck in the first place.

Oh, and a Bloom County collection? *squee*

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Friday, June 15, 2007 5:05 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
Quote:

Originally posted by Penguin:
So...How many of you here were ALIVE in 1971 when this song came out?!?!!?

Um, not me. Not even hubby, whose oldness I was complaining about earlier, lol. My parents hadn't even met yet in 1971!



What a way to start a Friday...I was born in 1971. I feel incredibly old now.

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Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
Ok folks, I'm out for the weekend! Wish me luck. I'll be back on Monday.



Luck and fun to you.

Oh, I almost forgot. I saw Jimi yesterday.

Well, not really. But my brain went 'wow, that looks like RIMG. I think I should go give him a big ass bear hug.' I controlled the urge, but maybe I shouldn't have. Could've made an average day more interesting.


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Friday, June 15, 2007 5:16 AM

FLYVOTE


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
What a way to start a Friday...I was born in 1971. I feel incredibly old now.

a) I'm older.
b) You look great.



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Friday, June 15, 2007 5:46 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Quote:

Originally posted by FlyVote:
Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
What a way to start a Friday...I was born in 1971. I feel incredibly old now.

a) I'm older.
b) You look great.




Ditto on both counts.

Know what made me feel old? Yesterday in the bar (I think it was Zerokiryu) said he was born after 1986- the year I graduated high school.

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Friday, June 15, 2007 5:53 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Hey, think of it this way guys. People from older generations got to have a lot of experiences we never will. My mom tlaks all the time about traveling to California on Route 66, or dressing up like a hippie and walking on Haight and Ashbury when she was little. Newer generations miss out on that type of thing.

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Friday, June 15, 2007 5:53 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
Oh, I almost forgot. I saw Jimi yesterday.

Well, not really. But my brain went 'wow, that looks like RIMG. I think I should go give him a big ass bear hug.' I controlled the urge, but maybe I shouldn't have. Could've made an average day more interesting.



Damn, you saw me? I'll have to keep my stalking more to the shadows.

As for the age thing, well, most of you were born before me. It's no big deal, really. Just a number. I am going to third Mavs and Fly on the "you look (damn) good" sentiment. *hugs*

~jimi

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Friday, June 15, 2007 5:56 AM

FLYVOTE


Quote:

Originally posted by Mavourneen:
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Originally posted by FlyVote:
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Originally posted by RugBug:
What a way to start a Friday...I was born in 1971. I feel incredibly old now.

a) I'm older.
b) You look great.




Ditto on both counts.

Know what made me feel old? Yesterday in the bar (I think it was Zerokiryu) said he was born after 1986- the year I graduated high school.

And I could be Zero's dad. Not that I could be, but you know what I mean.

Oh, and *hugs* to RugBug and Mav (and myself). Decrepit, woebegone, and ancient.



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Friday, June 15, 2007 5:58 AM

FLYVOTE


Quote:

Originally posted by deepgirl187:
My mom talks all the time about traveling to California on Route 66,

Route 66 is still there. And thanks to a hotel in Grant, NM, my wife and I got our "kicks, on Route 66".



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Friday, June 15, 2007 6:03 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Quote:

Originally posted by FlyVote:
Route 66 is still there. And thanks to a hotel in Grant, NM, my wife and I got our "kicks, on Route 66".



I know. But portions of it have been overtaken by the freeways, so I don't think it'll be quite the same experience as it used to.

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Friday, June 15, 2007 6:08 AM

FLYVOTE


Quote:

Originally posted by deepgirl187:
Quote:

Originally posted by FlyVote:
Route 66 is still there. And thanks to a hotel in Grant, NM, my wife and I got our "kicks, on Route 66".


...I don't think it'll be quite the same experience as it used to.

No, it was utterly fantastic and exhausting.




Oh, you mean the route. OK, that might not be what it once was.



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Friday, June 15, 2007 6:08 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Quote:

Originally posted by FlyVote:
Decrepit, woebegone, and ancient.



hehe When Husband is feeling particularly cruelly playful, He will call me "Ancient Chinese Secret."

Do you remember that Calgon commercial with the Asian drycleaner's wife shaking the Calgon box and saying "Ancient Chinese Secret, huh?"



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Friday, June 15, 2007 6:10 AM

FLYVOTE


Quote:

Originally posted by Mavourneen:
Quote:

Originally posted by FlyVote:
Decrepit, woebegone, and ancient.



hehe When Husband is feeling particularly cruelly playful, He will call me "Ancient Chinese Secret."

Do you remember that Calgon commercial with the Asian drycleaner's wife shaking the Calgon box and saying "Ancient Chinese Secret, huh?"

Yup. Part of my vernacular.



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Friday, June 15, 2007 6:25 AM

MSG


Morning all

HUGS Mav still got my fingers crossed for you

Penguin- nope never heard the song wasn't born then anyway:) HUGS though

Deepgirl- mega hugs sweety!!!

HK- yes eerie calm always happens when the students have truly pushed beyond the bounds ( it's what keeps them alive)

CK- oooh have a fun trip honey

Flyvote- HUGS

Jonny- do you have any particular objections to fresh flowers???


"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs


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Friday, June 15, 2007 6:27 AM

MAVOURNEEN


*glomp*

You have been missed, MsG!


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Friday, June 15, 2007 6:27 AM

FLYVOTE


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Originally posted by msg:
Morning all

*Hugs* MSG. Nice to hear from you and that you have access.



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Friday, June 15, 2007 6:35 AM

MSG


I'm just glad I have Fridays off or summer school might just do me in:) LOL

So what has everyone been up to?

HUGS to all

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Friday, June 15, 2007 6:39 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by Penguin:
So...How many of you here were ALIVE in 1971


Quote:

Originally posted by deepgirl187:
Ummm...I think my mom was nine.


I love you DeepGirl, but:
Quote:

Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
Um, not me. Not even hubby, whose oldness I was complaining about earlier, lol. My parents hadn't even met yet in 1971!


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
What a way to start a Friday...I was born in 1971. I feel incredibly old now.


Quote:

Originally posted by FlyVote:
a) I'm older.
b) You look great.


A retired dean said to me at a funeral last year, there are three ages of man: youth, adulthood and "you look good"...Guess who fed him the setup line
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Originally posted by Mavourneen:
Ditto on both counts.

Know what made me feel old? Yesterday in the bar (I think it was Zerokiryu) said he was born after 1986- the year I graduated high school.


Lessee, that would be four years after I wuz s'posed to grajitate frum collage...
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Do you remember that Calgon commercial with the Asian drycleaner's wife shaking the Calgon box and saying "Ancient Chinese Secret, huh?"

Holy Crap! I forgot all about that one. You guys musta been in grade/grammar school, yes?
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Originally posted by RugBug:
I saw Jimi yesterday.


That kinda thing happens to me alla time. I also have the same experience if I'm in a strange city. It's like I'm looking for familiar faces (for comfort?). I'm sure there's a psychological term for that. Not that you're psycho.
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Originally posted by deepgirl187:
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Originally posted by FlyVote:
And thanks to a hotel in Grant, NM, my wife and I got our "kicks, on Route 66".


I know.


Hey Fly, that was an excellent one-liner. But I think you a\oughtta focus on the first part of DeepGirl's answer...


Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. - Walt Whitman

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Friday, June 15, 2007 6:51 AM

MSG


Hey did you not see the question??? LOL you're not allergic to any flowers or have any objection to them do you???

'Cause I want to put flowers in the room and I don't want anyone getting all sick:)

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:03 AM

MIRCEA


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Originally posted by FlyVote:
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Originally posted by Mircea:
As do I, luckily someone bought me the complete collection for Christmas.

There is a COMPLETE COLLECTION???



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Yes, It weighs a ton.

Sorry it takes me so long to respond. I'm only popping in once a day or so.

I think nighttime is dark so you can imagine your fears with less distraction.

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:05 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
HK- yes eerie calm always happens when the students have truly pushed beyond the bounds (it's what keeps them alive)


JQ is suddenly, genuinely frightened to the core of his soul.



Make the pictures in my head go away!!!
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Jonny- do you have any particular objections to fresh flowers???

Does this have anything to do with the Body Odor thread from yesterday? I promise to shower at D*C...


Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. - Walt Whitman

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:06 AM

MSG


Nope I just really like having fresh flowers around and I didn't want to over perfume the rest of you all:) LOL
Yes you should hear my calm teacher voice, it's kinda eerie and also acts as a warning to the kids they are pushing their luck:)

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs


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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:07 AM

HELL'S KITTEN


I've a question that's always plagued me, so I thought I'd pose it to all y'all.

Why are people so secretive about their income?

I mean, sure, you don't want your employees telling everyone what they make, cuz then you'd inevitably have people complaining and whining about "fair" and blah-dee-blah. But, outside of the company... are people embarassed about their salary? Are they ashamed of it? Do they feel guilty about making too much? Or do they feel that if their salary is too low comparatively, that they'll seem like a failure? Should I be ashamed or embarassed about how much I make and I just don't realize it? Why's it always seem like such a taboo thing to discuss openly?

*HK really doesn't understand...*
sorry about teh spellng, but i rlly dont care at the mo'

EDIT:
Regarding the money for not showering question from yesterday (?) - Sure, but the money offered to me would have to be at least equal to my current salary, because I know for a fact that I would be fired. After all, we make medical devices. You really don't want filthy, stanky people making your medical devices. *snikkers*

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:11 AM

MSG


Well 'cause it's rude to talk of money. You never know if someone else is in terrible financial straits or something and if you're over there talking about your big raise and how you make $150,000 a year it could be upsetting...basically I think it became a rule so as not to emphasize class/wealth differences among people.

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:13 AM

HELL'S KITTEN


Oh, sure, that I get.
It's not necessarily the nicest thing to go around randomly proclaiming your income to strangers. (E.g. our c**ksucker COO was in the front lobby at our previous building on his phone, as people were walking by, and he was telling whomever to give all the directors a $30,000 / yr raise... and that was, naturally, after they just got done telling us that our bonuses would be tiered from now on, meaning we'd be getting a significantly smaller bonus and the managers and directors would be getting a significantly bigger bonus.)

But when people ask... when they're trying to get an idea of the job market... etc. ... why all the dancing around the answer?

Maybe I'm just stupid.
*shrugs*

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:15 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Hey did you not see the question???
'Cause I want to put flowers in the room...


...I was trying to be discrete. (discreet? *waits for math-geeks to jump all over him*) Nobody knows knew we were sleeping together at D*C. Cat iz out of ur bag now.


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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:20 AM

VERSEEXPLORER


Quote:

Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
I've a question that's always plagued me, so I thought I'd pose it to all y'all.

Why are people so secretive about their income?



Hmmm, I'm not sure, but I think it's because it's personal information. We don't talk about weight, age, money, sex lives, etc. Here in the Imponderable Watercooler, we do talk about most of these, but it would be a bit odd to ask everyone how much they make. It just appears to be a little tacky to ask.

Suzie Orman (financial advisor) says we should be more open about it, so that we can be aware if we should be asking for more money from our employees.



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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:23 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Good morning folks.

(Plops down in thread, very glad to be home)

Spent 1st day of ICWA (Indian Child Welfare Act) symposium fighting the nods and the second day taking notes and considering presenting some policy to council for sponsorship of non member children with member siblings and policy items for tribal enforcement of custom/culture for the same children. Lots of ultra fun rollercoaster loopty loop stuff that really is not that fun but still loopy nonetheless.

Income HK? With us it's just good policy. I don't make much more than the people I supervise. They think I get paid "The big bucks" but it ain't true. Hell, now that I'm paid salary there is no overtime and I get reimbursed with more leave time. More leave time and the load of two jobs. More leave time and too much stuff to do leaving me with little time off. More leave time and crappy pay that won't allow me two weeks to tour the country meeting Browncoats on the road to D*C.

F-it. I love my job and the people I work with and for. Despite the fact I only make just over twelve dollars an hour.

If that ain't a self imposed punch in the junk than I don't know what is.



LIBERTAS SUMPTUS

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:24 AM

HELL'S KITTEN


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Originally posted by VerseExplorer:
Hmmm, I'm not sure, but I think it's because it's personal information. We don't talk about weight, age, money, sex lives, etc. Here in the Imponderable Watercooler, we do talk about most of these, but it would be a bit odd to ask everyone how much they make. It just appears to be a little tacky to ask.

Yes, to be sure... but when it is appropriate to do so... it's still inappropriate!

*so confused*

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:24 AM

MSG


Jonny-LOL Hey it's 8 of us in there ...so I guess that makes it an orgy??? oooh I've never been to an orgy:)

Hmmm I make a pitiful sum, but I'd happily tell you if you wanted to know:)

NV- I feel your salaried employee pain..I'm in the same boat. We actually figured out that based on the number of hours I work I make about $8.50 an hour....sigh and I don't even get the extra day off compensation as we are obligated to be there for every contract day and we get a total of 6 sick days and 2 personal days a year and you can only save personal not sick leave.

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:25 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
Why are people so secretive about their income?
*snippety*
Why's it always seem like such a taboo thing to discuss openly?


I think it's just a cultural thing. I mean back in the day, talking about someone's income was like asking who's on top. Nowadays, either question could/should be fair game, were it not for the fogey's among us. Like me. (I like it both ways, and my income while not a secret (I work for the State and for $10 you can look it up yourself on the internets), I don't publish it in the Town Crier.
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Regarding the money for not showering question from yesterday (?) - Sure, but the money offered to me would have to be at least equal to my current salary, because I know for a fact that I would be fired. After all, we make medical devices. You really don't want filthy, stanky people making your medical devices. *snikkers*

Not necessarily. You could take a lateral and hire yourself out as a Petry Dish. And a cute dish at that!


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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:27 AM

MSG


So you're saying HK is dishy?? 'Cause I've always thought so:)



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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:31 AM

MAVOURNEEN


HK, I understand what you're saying, I do.

Ok. I'll go first.

I make NOTHING! $0 / hr ! Yippee!

Here in Washington, people literally flaunt what they make by driving the HumVee, by having a McMansion, by sending their kids to the most expensive private schools, (and they used to buy $10K leather sectionals )

But they are desperate, hopelessly unhappy.

I'd rather be happy, personally.

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:32 AM

FLYVOTE


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Originally posted by msg:
So you're saying HK is dishy?? 'Cause I've always thought so:)

Ditto.



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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:32 AM

MSG


HUGS Mav- but soon you shall be making bundles..



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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:32 AM

HOBBLEIT


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Originally posted by Mavourneen:


Know what made me feel old? Yesterday in the bar (I think it was Zerokiryu) said he was born after 1986- the year I graduated high school.



My brother made us all feel old yesterday when he mentioned the fact that the kids who are just finishing secondary school this year hadn't even started when when we left five years ago.



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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:34 AM

FLYVOTE


Quote:

Originally posted by Mavourneen:
Ok. I'll go first.
I make NOTHING! $0 / hr ! Yippee!

I'll go second. I make exactly as much as Mav. My company, however...



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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:37 AM

MSG


OK the joy of eating a real lunch without any interruptions is so indescribable...( I've been living on slim fast bars as there is no time for breakfast or lunch during summer school)
mmmm grilled chicken pasta primavera (with asparagus , broccoli, and cherry tomatos) Sorry haven't had real food ( except dinner ) in 4 days

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:39 AM

RUGBUG


HK,

I think it's a combination of things. I'm not sure who deemed it rude to speak of money matters, but it's always been ingrained in me.

On the company side, you would get unionization if people openly discussed salaries. If you know Joe Bob is making twice as much for the same job, you gather everyone else doing the job and get together, tell the owner you start paying us what Joe Bob makes or we're leaving. Thus, employers are rightfully scared of their employees knowing how much each one makes. Scared enough, that my business owner uncle told me 'if I hear of an employee talking salaries with another, they're gone. If an employee comes to me and asks for a raise because Joe Bob does the same job and makes more, they're gone.'

I actually almost got fired recently because in the course of my daily work duties I happened across salary information. Now, I did nothing with it except stew over it (co-worker who was hired just months before was making almost $400 a month more than me...and I've been here for 7 years...plus I have experience and a college education, she didn't. Add to that, she was bad at her job and I was doing most of it. So bad, in fact, that she became only the second employee this company has ever fired.) but I still almost got fired when I pointed the accessibility of the info out to management. They were pissed I didn't do it right away. I didn't think any thing of it. But that illustrates how seriously companies feel about the sharing of income between co-workers. It breeds ill-will as well as possible revolt.

This happens in the horse world too. You NEVER ask how much someone paid for their horse. There are many reasons, some to hide barely legal acts (agents will charge double commissions or will tell owner horse sold for $50K when it sold for twice that and then pocket the rest), and some to keep your interest secure...(no one wants to know they just paid $50k for a horse the owner bought for $5k a year ago).

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:41 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by Mavourneen:
Here in Washington, people literally flaunt what they make by driving the HumVee, by having a McMansion, by sending their kids to the most expensive private schools, (and they used to buy $10K leather sectionals )



Even then you can't determine what they really make because some people are so caught up with possessions that they buy and buy. They could be in debt up to their eyeballs and you would never know it based on their lifestyles.

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:42 AM

MAVOURNEEN


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HUGS Mav- but soon you shall be making bundles..



Thanks, MsG. I'm praying that you are right. But for some reason, both my phone and email are suspiciously quiet, despite having sent out lots of resumes...

And that primavera sounds lovely. I have to figure out what's for dinner tonight. I think Husband wants crab cakes.

But I was just a very bad dog and had 3 chocolate covered mint oreos. They were delicious.
Please, someone. Give me a job before my *ss becomes the size of Zimbabwe!!!

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:43 AM

JONNYQUEST

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*GLOMPS VeX!!!*

Hiya! I saw you posting earlier but bein' a day off for me I'm more poppy than usual. Great to hear from you again!

Hi NVG. You are where you belong, I'm sure. Keep hanging, bro.

Quote:

Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
Yes, to be sure... but when it is appropriate to do so... it's still inappropriate!

*so confused*



I think there's also a bit of truth to what you alluded to earlier about the income disparity. Richie Rich ought not to tell Orphan Annie how much he makes because a) she can't even think in those kind of numbers and b) she can already tell there's an obvious difference and doesn't need her nose rubbed in it. Likewise Annie (not your Annie, MsG) probably doesn't feel any kinda need to exposit her income because a) she feels ashamed by its paltriness and b) because she would probably have to reveal the source of the income of which she might feel ashamed or at least if she feel's pride about, realizes that someone else might not share that view.

Maybe that's where the silence is golden rule came from.

Then again, I am fulla s**t...

Buzzing off again. Might check back later. But if'n I miss you all, Peace.


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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:46 AM

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Regarding moolah, I've never felt uncomfortable discussing my own pay (which currently is 6.95/hour; last year around this time it was still 5.15), but I can understand if others like to keep it under wraps. My brokeness is kind of a banner of pride for me. Every time I see those VH1 shows about wealthy celebrities, I shake my head. Those people have seriously lost all common sense.

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:46 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
Quote:

Originally posted by Mavourneen:
Here in Washington, people literally flaunt what they make by driving the HumVee, by having a McMansion, by sending their kids to the most expensive private schools, (and they used to buy $10K leather sectionals )



Even then you can't determine what they really make because some people are so caught up with possessions that they buy and buy. They could be in debt up to their eyeballs and you would never know it based on their lifestyles.



Interesting you say that. Despite the fact that 3 counties in my general vicinity (including my county, Montgomery County) are on the top wealthiest counties in the country, many of those McMansions hold a secret.

Husband often goes to very wealthy households either for carpentry work or his gas stove gig. He's told me that many of those homes have whole rooms, whole wings, with no furniture in them. The owner's can afford to furnish them, apparently. (Yet another death knell to the furniture business! )

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:46 AM

MSG


Mav isn't not even been a week has it? I did have a thought though...you're so good at management stuff you should check out local schools/private schools and see if they're in need of the managing secretary ( which sounds like being a secretary, but isn't) it's the person who literally runs the school, handles all payroll, and controls all incoming and outgoing money, etc...

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:50 AM

MAVOURNEEN


I was downsized (sounds kinder than laid off, I guess) on Monday, so it hasn't been a week. i just get antsy sitting around. I want to work. I need to work.

That's a good idea, MsG. I will look into it. Would schools hire me during the summer, though? I guess the first place to start is the school system website.
Going to look now.
Lord knows nobody's beating down my door...

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by FlyVote:
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Originally posted by msg:
So you're saying HK is dishy?? 'Cause I've always thought so:)

Ditto.



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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:54 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Becuase I'm stupid and forgot to say so earlier:

*hugs* I know you'll find something soon Mavourneen.

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:55 AM

MSG


Mav- yeah right now is when schools do their hiring so it's the perfect time. Staff don't say whether they're coming back or not until the last couple days of school so it's likely they just found out how many they are short by and would really welcome someone with your qualifications... check your district's classified postings.

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Friday, June 15, 2007 7:56 AM

HELL'S KITTEN


Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Not necessarily. You could take a lateral and hire yourself out as a Petry Dish. And a cute dish at that!

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No.

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Okay, look... maybe I wasn't clear. I am NOT asking you how much income you make per year. I am not asking why people shouldn't be discussing their income inside the company. I am not asking why people don't advertise their incomes openly. I am not asking why it's seen as tacky to randomly ask people how much they paid for certain things. I am really not dense enough not to know these things already.

...aaaahhhhhhhh.... never mind. Forget I asked. I'll just continue on with my complete lack of perspective.

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