Does a BDSequel need a BDStar? by zzetta13

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Does a BDSequel need a BDStar?

POSTED BY: ZZETTA13
UPDATED: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:38
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Wednesday, June 20, 2007 2:02 AM

Morning browncoats

Ok there’s been some speculation about a Sequel to Serenity sometime in the future. Right now that’s all it pretty much is. Just some background on my thinking. I’m a big Tomb Raider fan. Been one since playing the games with my kids when they were younger. Anyway when I first heard that there was going to be a movie made about TR staring Angelina Jolie I thought “WORNG”. She is not Lara Croft. She was a big star and all but she wasn’t TR to me. Anyhow the movie was made and it was successful enough for a sequel. So the point of my post is. If a BDS were to take place would a big named star be the secret ingredient to help it become a block-buster? I mean we do want Serenity to fly again, and fly often don’t we?

Here are some choices that I think could help out. Now this isn’t saying that our BDH aren’t stars themselves. Don’t misread. Just adding another star to the mix. Another BDH or BDV (villain) that can be killed off at the end.

1) Denzel Washington
2) John Travolta
3) Will Smith
4) Hugh Jackman

All these fellows have done Si/Fi before so we know they are up to it. Only thing is would they do it for us? Are they browncoats? Would they be willing to work for scale? Course I don’t mean to leave out the ladies. These are just some that I’ve listed. Anyone want to add to the list?

Z

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Wednesday, June 20, 2007 2:24 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Most of those actors are just way too expensive, they will blow the budget before the mode is even made.

If we need to cast any actor I think we should go for the less expensive ones who haven't be around for a while, Michael Keaton, Linda Fiorentino, Jennifer Jason Leigh, Jeff Goldblum, Gina Davis....I think the fantastic Laurence Fishburne might also do some work for a reasonable fee because he loves the Zoe character so much.

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Wednesday, June 20, 2007 2:31 AM

CAUSAL

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Originally posted by zzetta13:
Now this isn’t saying that our BDH aren’t stars themselves. Don’t misread.

But they aren't, not in the sense you're using. You're talking about an actor that can pull a large number of people into the theater just because he/she is in the film. And let's face it: our BDHs ain't that.

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Wednesday, June 20, 2007 2:37 AM

PHOENIXROSE

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Quote:
Originally posted by zzetta13:
If a BDS were to take place would a big named star be the secret ingredient to help it become a block-buster?

The studio thought that with the first one. They wanted a big star to play the Operative. Not a 10 million guy, but someone who would draw people. Joss talks about it in the commentary. Chewitel was the name on every casting director's lips, but he tried to find someone who would be more marketable.
None fit.
Chewitel did.
And he was considered to be a rising star, at least in Europe, so they got away with it, but barely.

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Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:46 AM

ZZETTA13

Great feedback!

Jayneztown: Blowing the budget right off the bat with a big name star I don’t think the movie companies are worried about. I thought the same thing with Angelina Jolie. But her star power was enough to recoup her cost and then some. So it was the right move for the studio in my way of thinking though it wasn’t at the time. She also got her Dad, Jon Voight to play her dad Lord Croft in the first TR. Laurence Fishburne! Excellent choice! Who better than family to work for peanuts on a project of love. Gina could sweet talk me into anything. By the by they could even request Mr. Fishburne’s buddy from the Matrix Keanu Reeves to play the part of Simon and Rivers long lost brother…..NOT!! Sorry lost my head for a second.

Casual: That’s right! I do believe that folk who went to see TR went there to see Miss Jolie. Not because they loved and enjoyed the game. Correct-a-mundo.

Miss Rose: You are a wealth of information. I certainly did not know that and I’ve seen the commentary several times. Guess I was having one of my black-out moments or maybe just taking a bathroom break. Anyway thanks for telling me because I did not remember. Chewitel did an excellent job as the operative and just as I can’t think of anyone else playing Serenity’s crew I can think of no other than him playing the operative.

I have enjoyed your posts Fellow Browncoats and part of the fun of getting answers is a lot of the time they lead to other questions and ideas.

Z

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Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:14 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Heh, actually I might have my sources mixed up. It's the interview in the Visual Companion that talks about casting the Operative; might not be in the commentary at all. But anyway, there it is in black and white. Now I have to watch the commentary again to make sure I can keep where I get my info all straight

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Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:35 AM

DAVESHAYNE

I sometimes amuse myself imagining Jodie Foster as the Operative. "Well, Operative - have the Reavers stopped screaming?"

David

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Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:39 AM

DARKFLY

A sequel would have to have at least one recognizable star, mabye the Operative should be back in it since the guy who played him is a lot more famous now

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Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:57 AM

KAYNA

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I think we sould look at well know stars that still have a tendancy to do samller movies because they thing they're good. Not indie films, just slightly smaller ones.

And since you mentioned TR, Gerry Butler is pretty big just now. What about him. I think he'd make a wonderful terrifying villian. Or possible a ruthless rival that is still sorta kinda a friend of the BDHs

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Wednesday, June 20, 2007 7:01 AM

SIGMANUNKI

This kinda raises another problem. If we get a sequel what's the acronym? BDS is already taken: Big Damn Series!

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Wednesday, June 20, 2007 7:28 AM

REAVERMAN

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
This kinda raises another problem. If we get a sequel what's the acronym? BDS is already taken: Big Damn Series!

BDMS. Or maybe BDM2...

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To bend like steel forged over fire.
We were not made to bend like reed,
Or to turn the other cheek!"

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Wednesday, June 20, 2007 7:36 AM

SIGMANUNKI

My vote's for BDM2

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Wednesday, June 20, 2007 11:10 PM

ROMANCEGURU

Christian Bale

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Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:46 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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Originally posted by Romanceguru:
Christian Bale

Though he would be great for part in a BDM2 (that is catchy!) I am thinking with his success in Batman Begins and now the new Batman movie on the way he may be out of the price range Universal is willing to shell out. The 40 million budget of the BDM set a high bar for a movie based on a cancelled show with a cast nearly no one had heard of. We struggled at the box office and it was not until the dvd started selling that the BDM became profitable. A big name star will drive up the budget which will set the bar even higher.

One thing we have in our favor is that the many of the cast have been busy since the BDM. Nathan was in Slither, The Waitress, and the short lived Drive. That has made him more visible to the masses and might help to draw new people into theatres. Morena has been on SG1 and is now on that doctor show with Treat Williams (forgot the name). Jewel is going to be on Stargate Atlantis. Alan has been in Spamalot and the new hit Knocked Up. I think their current and recent exposure will be beneficial if Universal or someone else decides to make a sequel.

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Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:04 AM

BLINDOUTLAW

Hugh Jackman seems like a good choice, he seems like the kind of guy that will take a chance with a pay cut for a special project, and before you all responed, yes i am intead all kinds of crazy

but there are cases where big stars do take a risk on movies that they feel are worth a little risk or even contribute money in a project. It could happen, but im crazy so dont listen to me

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Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:16 AM

MRSELLARS

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Originally posted by Reaverman:

BDMS. Or maybe BDM2...

Which, of course, opens up the possibility of a raft of "BDSM" typos...

MRS

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Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:25 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Don't forget Nathan's spots on Lost. That made a lot of people sit up and go "Who's that?"

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Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:59 AM

CRUITHNE3753

Quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Chewitel was the name on every casting director's lips, but he tried to find someone who would be more marketable.
None fit.
Chewitel did.
And he was considered to be a rising star, at least in Europe, so they got away with it, but barely.

I can imagine the conversation amongst prospective moviegoers:-

"Anything good on at the moment?"
"There's that Serenity, supposed to be based on some sort of space western TV show."
"Who's in it?"
"Chetiwe... Chootiwe... erm... Chiwetiwe... uhh... Cheliwot... ummm...."
"What else is on?"

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Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:38 PM

GORRAMSPACETRASH

It's not essential, but a sad fact of the business is that it might be worth considering more seriously by the production team if another BDM goes ahead. Though Whedon and crew got away with it with casting the Operative, the might have their hands tied considering the preformance of the first BDM at the box office. I agree that someone like Christian Bale might push the budget a bit, but it's not impossible to find preformers willing to take part in a project for a cut in their salary.

What roles would you imagine for certain preformers in a BDM? Personally, I think the key is going with well-know character actor types. Imagine Christopher Walken as a smarmy Alliance commander... Paul Giamatti as a weasly Badger-type businessman... or Christopher Lee as a ruthless, corrupt magistrate... the mind boggles!

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