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Thursday, September 6, 2007 3:34 PM

FIREFLYLOVER123


I have to do an English report called "Found Language" in which I must present a piece of language (something from a movie, tv show, song, book, etc.) and talk about what I liked about it and how it struck me. So naturally, I want to do a quote from either Firefly or Serenity but I don't have enough time to watch everything and find a quote. So I was wondering if anyone could give me a heads up on some of their favorite conversations or speeches that are from the show or movie. I would extremely appreciate it and it will be fun to hear everyones' favorite quotes!
Thanks a bunch!

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Thursday, September 6, 2007 4:24 PM

DANIELFYRE


When I first read this for some reason Mal saying "yall got on this boat for different reasons" isntantly popped into my head.

Y'all got on this boat for different reasons, but you've all come to the same place. So now I'm asking more of you than I have before. Sure as I know anything, I know this: I aim to misbehave.

Other favorite quotes for me are:
Wash: I'm a leaf on the wind
Mal: What does that even mean
you could write about what you think it means to him (or you for that matter)

Zoe: Its just...in war time we never would have left a man behind
Mal: Maybe that's why we lost

"Book: When I talk about belief, why is it that you always assume I'm talking about God?"

Simon:"If the battle was so horrible, why did he name the ship after it?"
Zoe:"Once you've been in serenity you never leave. You just learn to live there."

Dr. Mathias: Gave up a brilliant future in medicine as well. It's madness.
The Operative: Madness? Have you looked at this scan carefully, Doctor? At his face? It's love, in point of fact. Something a good deal more dangerous.

Mal: But it ain't all buttons and charts, little albatross. You know what the first rule of flyin' is? Well I suppose you do, since you already know what I'm about to say.
River: I do. But I like to hear you say it.
Mal: Love. You can know all the math in the 'Verse, but take a boat in the air you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of worlds. Love keeps her in the air when she oughta fall down, tells ya she's hurtin' 'fore she keens. Makes her home.
River: Storm's getting worse.
Mal: We'll pass through it soon enough.

River: Please God make me a stone.

(right after being shot)
Simon: I'm sorry...I hate to leave
River: You take care of me, Simon. You've always taken care of me. My turn.
(at which point she runs through the stuck doors, unsticks them and kills a bunch of reavers)

Okay well I think that's plenty for you to choose from. One request though, let me know which one you end up picking, and if none of those I'm curious as to which one you go with. Okay good luck.




-DanielFyre

"real men juggle geese"

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Thursday, September 6, 2007 5:53 PM

DAVESHAYNE


Zoe talking about reavers, "If they take the ship they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothes. And if we're very lucky they'll do it in that order." Does more to explain what the reavers are than the entire episode of Bushwacked.

David

'Geeks can't admit that anything worthwhile was invented before 1981. Soon, "making cocoa" will be called "milk hacking."' - Lore Sjoberg

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Thursday, September 6, 2007 7:10 PM

DATALESS


I'd want to have something with Chinese in it and the western way of talk in it. Maybe the communication with Jayne and Mal about Mal's new wife from "Our Mrs. Reynolds" That exchange has all the where Jayne offers Vera for Saffron. After realizing that Jayne is offering the gun He Says some thing in Chinese and then says, "Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." I think that might be a good one. It's about 18:00 minutes in to the ep on DVD. I sure there are others but I think you'd want some Chinese and some old timey western talk too.

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Friday, September 7, 2007 7:57 AM

EMMAZULE


"You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go and beat you with until you understand who's in ruttin' command here..."

from The Train Job is interesting on multiple levels. For one, there's the pun, there's the use of the Western-y sounding but new usage of "rutting" as an equivalent for the f-word (as I recall, it's what dolphin mating is called), and it just says so much about Jayne's character, doesn't it?

Or how about:

"She's tore up plenty, but she'll fly true." - lovely double meaning coming from Zoe at the moment it does in the BDM.

Also, Mal's seemingly non-sequitur (but when you think about it, pretty revealing) "Is it Christmas?" followed by "Ya'll are gonna be here when I wake up?" when he wakes up to see everyone around him at the end of Out of Gas.

Hell, half of the lines from Out of Gas and Objects in Space, I could totally write an entire essay based around.

"What's that?" "I dunno, something that was living here..." for instance, in the flashback in OoG, where Zoe is looking RIGHT AT the place where present-day Mal has collapsed, seemingly dying. "I just don't trust him", from a different flashback in the same episode where Zoe comments on her dislike for the guy who, of course, she ends up happily married to.

Or, from Objects In Space:

"She understands, but she doesn't comprehend." from River - a play on the subtleties of words in typically complexified River Tam style.

"It's just an object, it doesn't mean what you think." - right before everyone comes around freaking out because she's holding a gun, which she's envisioning as a branch. What the hell is she talking about? Is she aware of the impending freakout - which is apparently going on already before she comes out of her reverie? Is she simply imagining it in different terms or what? You could TOTALLY build an essay out of examining this one line, or the above line.

Or perhaps. "I'm not in the ship. I am the ship."

- is she really just messing with Early's head here, or is this statement capable of being read more metaphorically, seeing as she's repeatedly said to be more at home on Serenity than anywhere else, even going so far as to have earlier imagined it in a more nature-oriented (leaves, sunlight, a "branch") sense? That whole monologue of hers is really very interesting.

Or perhaps her "Also, I can kill you with my brain" from, I believe it was... "Safe"?






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Friday, September 7, 2007 8:13 AM

CANTER


Mine has got to be the entire discussion between Wash and Mal during the torture scene in War Stories.

They are clearly in pain. They are clearly about to die.

But Mal tries to keep Wash alert and alive by making him angry about Zoe.



MAL (with some difficulty) I'm not... gonna say it... (turns to Wash) ... again. Shipboard romance complicates things.
WASH For who? For you?
MAL For everyone.
WASH Yeah? Well, what about lo -- (electric surge) ...VEAAAHH!
MAL (fighting the pain) Ain't against it as a rule. But in a situation such as ours, tends to cause problems. Splits loyalties.
WASH (hmmmph) Know what I think?
MAL What?
Wash is totally dazed by the pain. Mal strains to see him, get him to focus. Ignores Niska totally.
MAL (prodding) What? What do you think, Wash? 'cause I'm interested.
WASH Huh?
WASH (woozily) Wha -- ? Oh. This "policy" you got against shipboard relationships... that's just you projecting your own intimacy issues onto everyone else.
(torture)
MAL (cont'd) Or, could be it's a mite simpler than that. Could be I just don't think you're good enough for Zoe.
WASH (finally registers) I don't give a good gorram what you think.
MAL Don't you?

MAL You know me and Zoe got a history -- and I figure you gotta be asking yourself some fairly fundamental questions about the nature of that history...
Wash laughs weakly to himself, isn't buying it.
WASH You never slept with my wife.
MAL You know that for a fact, do you? You ever ask her?
More electricity. Mal rebounds. Wash not so much.
MAL (cont'd) We were together good long time before you come around, Wash. And she is a damn fine lookin' woman.
Wash rallies enough sass to respond, despite his weakening condition:
WASH Never happened... know how I know?
MAL How. Tell me, Wash.
WASH The whole "captain" thing isn't Zoe's trouble. It's the guy-she-never- slept-with thing. Hell, Mal -- I wish you had slept with her! Then at least she'd be over it!
MAL You want me to sleep with her? That make you feel better?
WASH It might!
MAL Imagine it'd do wonders for her, too.
WASH Screw you!
MAL Get in line.
ZAAAAP! Wash starts to go. He's cracking, starts to pass out, maybe never to come back.
MAL (cont'd) Okay. Gonna do it, then. Wash? Wash! First thing, we get back -- I'm taking your wife into my bed. Gonna get me a piece'a --


Actually, the entire War stories is filled with wonderful quotes.


ZOE: Jayne no, this is something the Captain has to do for himself..

MAL: No, No it isn't!!

ZOE: Oh!!





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Friday, September 7, 2007 10:11 AM

DONCOAT


You'll find a passel o' good ideas in the Favorite Quotes thread in the "Firefly Episode Discussions" section.

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Friday, September 7, 2007 12:13 PM

MURKYMERC


Quote:

Originally posted by Fireflylover123:
I have to do an English report called "Found Language" in which I must present a piece of language (something from a movie, tv show, song, book, etc.) and talk about what I liked about it and how it struck me. So naturally, I want to do a quote from either Firefly or Serenity but I don't have enough time to watch everything and find a quote. So I was wondering if anyone could give me a heads up on some of their favorite conversations or speeches that are from the show or movie. I would extremely appreciate it and it will be fun to hear everyones' favorite quotes!
Thanks a bunch!



Crap...I have to be the mean old responsible adult here. If you don't have a quote already in you head then perhaps none of them "struck you" and you should choose a different source that DID have that affect.
Also...on behalf of parents everywhere..DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK KID...I PLAN ON YOUR GENERATION SUPPORTING ME SOMEDAY!!

Other then that..I do kind of like this thread.

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Friday, September 7, 2007 1:35 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.


Bump!


But if you still need help. I always liked Saffron's "Good Bible/Good Myth" speechs.

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Friday, September 7, 2007 3:59 PM

FIREFLYLOVER123


Thanks so much for all of your expert opinions and I am definitely looking into all of your advice to decide which is the best for me to use in my project. I would also like to say that I do intend to do my own homework. I was only asking for some friendly advice as to what real Firefly/Serenity experts thought of as their favorite quotes. Since the last time I watched Firefly was several months ago, and I can not predict the future, I did not have this project in mind at the time I watched it, so I could not remember any meaningful quotes. I was not asking any of you to write my report for me, and it is unfortunate that you (Murkeymurc)think I am a ignorant kid, but in reality I am at the top of my class. Oh well... I will not allow one comment to ruin my good mood about all the responses I got! I was extremely excited to see all the great ideas. Thank you all!

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Friday, September 7, 2007 4:33 PM

DONCOAT


Two small points.

First, you didn't tell us much about the kind of quote you needed. Short, like a line or two? Longer, like Mal's soliloquy in the BDM? A whole scene, like the flashback to the battle in The Message ("They don't like it when you shoot at them...")? That would make a big difference.

Second, if you've seen a suggestion here that you like, be sure to go back to the source and get the quote correct. Sometimes we don't remember our quotes verbatim, or leave bits out. Nothing's more embarrassing than writing a paper expounding on a misquote -- especially if your teacher turns out to be a browncoat.


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Saturday, September 8, 2007 7:28 AM

MURKYMERC


Quote:

Originally posted by Fireflylover123:
I do intend to do my own homework. I was only asking for some friendly advice as to what real Firefly/Serenity experts thought of as their favorite quotes. Since the last time I watched Firefly was several months ago, and I can not predict the future, I did not have this project in mind at the time I watched it, so I could not remember any meaningful quotes. I was not asking any of you to write my report for me, and it is unfortunate that you (Murkeymurc)think I am a ignorant kid, but in reality I am at the top of my class. Oh well... I will not allow one comment to ruin my good mood about all the responses I got!



If a quote is something that really inspires you, the only reason you need to review it again to make sure you have the words verbatim. Quotes like that stay with you because the moment you hear them, they change you. Based upon your description, your teacher asked you to look inside yourself for one of those from your past. “Meaningful quotes” are only meaningful, in the context of the assignment, if they are meaningful to you.

If I had to choose one from Firefly, it would probably be when (sorry, going to paraphrase here for time) Mal explains to Simon that the fact that he was still flying was enough. However, there are other quotes that have stayed with me and had a greater influence on what I believe and how I live. My point was and still is that if you look for one from within, your report will write itself. As far as your assumptions about what personally think about you, you jumped to that conclusion yourself.

Regardless, everything here and before is just my opinions, take them or leave them.


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