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YouTube and Fox

POSTED BY: FOBOK
UPDATED: Monday, October 8, 2007 07:16
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Friday, October 5, 2007 9:42 PM

FOBOK


I'm new here, (as a poster anyway), but I figured it was worth noting. Apparently, sometime in the last few days YouTube has removed pretty much all the Firefly/Serenity fan music videos, at the behest of Fox.

I know this should have been expected, but I find this especially annoying as there were a number of high-quality videos on YouTube that I haven't found anywhere else.

Anyway, just thought I'd comment since it doesn't seem like much notice has been taken yet.


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Friday, October 5, 2007 9:44 PM

DARKFLY


Yeah on some other Firefly boards there are posts like this people getting so MAD, even I lost my only youtube video and don't have a backup of it.

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Friday, October 5, 2007 10:03 PM

BROWNCOAT2007


I personally find it kinda funny... F*x flying in like the gorram alliance, shutting us down, yet we keep finding ways to keep sneakin' about... can't keep our girl down.

Can't stop the signal F*x... can't ever stop the signal!!!

WE WILL RISE AGAIN!!!

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Saturday, October 6, 2007 6:42 AM

RAYCHEETAH


YouTube is, as mentioned, cracking down on fan vids, and, it's not just Firefly/Serenity. I have seen many Japanese television vids (of which I have been a fan since childhood) deleted for the same reason.

It's a gorram shame, but-

They HAVE to do it. They are legally responsible for policing their site. More and more artists and studios are insisting on the protection of their rights. It's NOT just about corporate greed; if a license/copyright holder (including Universal Pictures Corp, should they so choose) does NOT challenge even such innocent infringements on their material, they stand a chance of losing legal control over it, effectively allowing an easement on the use of their property.

They simply can't afford that risk.

It sux, but, I understand why it is being done. YouTube is going to get more and more efficient about deleting vids which violate their terms and policies, which means that, soon, it will be very hard to find even a few Firefly/Serenity vids there, of any flavor, or vids from any other show or movie. Too gorram bad.

-Raycheetah =-[.]-=
The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.



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Saturday, October 6, 2007 11:08 AM

FOBOK


Quote:

Originally posted by Raycheetah:
It sux, but, I understand why it is being done. YouTube is going to get more and more efficient about deleting vids which violate their terms and policies, which means that, soon, it will be very hard to find even a few Firefly/Serenity vids there, of any flavor, or vids from any other show or movie. Too gorram bad.



I do agree that I understand why they had to do it. Though, I wish Fox had done with Firefly what MGM did with Stargate and provide an alternate host for such videos under their control.

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Saturday, October 6, 2007 2:36 PM

JENNYDIVER


Is there an alternate, underground, video-hosting site where fans could post? Youtube is so corporate now anyways, I don't even think it's worth posting anything even semi-original there. :(

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Saturday, October 6, 2007 2:41 PM

RAYCHEETAH


Quote:

Originally posted by JennyDiver:
Is there an alternate, underground, video-hosting site where fans could post? Youtube is so corporate now anyways, I don't even think it's worth posting anything even semi-original there. :(



*Cough* http://www.megavideo.com/ *Cough*.

-Raycheetah =^[.]^=
The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.



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Saturday, October 6, 2007 3:15 PM

JENNYDIVER


Thanks!
(Now I just hope AMC doesn't follow suit and sweep away all the clips of CH on "Mad Men"...)

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Saturday, October 6, 2007 3:51 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


My entire youtube account was banned with 100 videos deleted, most of it original video I shot myself, all because of one Firefly fanvid. It will take over 2 weeks to re-upload to a new account.

It's not just copyright. There were 10,000 other Firefly Serenity fanvids on youtube when mine was censored.

Serenity fanvids seem to to better. Universal is owned by the Bush family, the Queen of England and the Bin Ladens in Carlyle Group aka Blue Sun. But my youtube account was deleted the day I posted this story on FFF, about the homosexual affair of President Bush Jr:
www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=30737&m=542599
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/piratenewsrss/message/340

Fox WANTS to ban Firefly worldwide, on youtube and on TV. Too much Truth cannot be allowed to leak out, even in fiction. CIA MKULTRA Project Monarch mind control slave programs are still Top Secret, no matter how many congressional hearings they have.

US Congressional Hearing: CIA torture-based mind control assassin program for kids (Real World River Tam)





CIA torture-based mind control program for sex slaves (River Tam based in part on Cathy O'Brien and her lobotomized daughter Kelly)




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Quote:

"'They're hurting us. Get me out!' The Government was playing with her brain. They opened up her skull and cut into her brain. The only reason you do that is to lobotomize somebody. They did it over, and over..."
-Dr Simon Tam, Firefly

Abbie Bernstein: Do you believe a government can be shamed into or out of what it's doing by the actions of individuals?
Joss Whedon: The idea was to say that people can make a difference, they can show the wrongs that are being done. They can speak out against them and make people aware of them. They can even create giant scandals. Sometimes they can topple governments. The point is that the truth is always more important than the power structure, and whether you make a dent or not, the fact that you succeeded in trying is a victory.
-Serenity - The Official Visual Companion, page 35

"On Earth-That-Was, the two ruling powers were once known as America and China. Though their empires remained separate, the two powers worked together throughout the colonization process, their cultures - as so many had - melding at many levels. Londinium, called so after the Roman name for England's capital (a country long before annexed by America in a somewhat ironic reversal), represented what was once the American Empire. Sinon ('SEE-non,' a bastardization of Sino, our word for 'Chinese') was the new China, basically. These two powers, still working in harmony, grew at once into the most populous and advanced civilizations in the new galaxy."
-Joss Whedon, Serenity: The Official Visual Companion


This explains why Fox cancelled Firefly before its first episode, without publicising it to Joss Whedon's millions of pre-existing customers.


FOX, MYSPACE & FIREFLY OWNED BY COMMUNIST CHINA!
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Firefly music video censored by Hero


Does that seem right to you?
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Sunday, October 7, 2007 3:18 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by Raycheetah:
Quote:

Originally posted by JennyDiver:
Is there an alternate, underground, video-hosting site where fans could post? Youtube is so corporate now anyways, I don't even think it's worth posting anything even semi-original there. :(



*Cough* http://www.megavideo.com/ *Cough*.

-Raycheetah =^[.]^=
The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.



http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=30176




We'll test how long this survives on Megapornvideo:

www.megavideo.com/?v=JVT35GR8

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Sunday, October 7, 2007 4:39 PM

WHISPER


Are they removing anything with Firefly/Serenity? or just direct clips from the shows?

All three of my videos are still up and running.





They should just look at it as free advertising.

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Monday, October 8, 2007 7:16 AM

CANTER


Not only did they remove all of my favourite video's, they also removed some of the interviews I had under my favourites. Are they also copyright protected?

I'm glad I managed to save two of my favourites musicvideos to my pc before this clampdown started.



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