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Originally posted by gorramgroupie:
I just watched that episode today

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Originally posted by derangedmilk:
Genius, that one.

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Originally posted by Raycheetah:
Funny thing is, I've seem discussions about River bein' "The final cylon!"

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

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Originally posted by gorramgroupie:
I just watched that episode today

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Funny, I just watched it last night
I'm mostly just tryin' to get a discussion going, I'm not REALLY sayin' Joss ripped anyone off.
But the 'socialator'/'companion' thing is a pretty funny coincidence, don't ya think?



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So, if we got a soliciator and a companion in the same room, would there be a fight, or trading pointers?


"I knew it, you kissed her!"

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
isn't this kinda like suggesting that FF ripped off Star Trek, and Wagon Train, and a bunch of John Wayne movies? And probably Gunsmoke, too? Wasn't Miss Kitty more than just a saloon owner, especially when she was younger?

Isn't all of that part of the genre? And , of course, the most important difference between BSG and Firefly, no aliens?

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Originally posted by gorramgroupie:

So, if we got a soliciator and a companion in the same room, would there be a fight, or trading pointers?

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Originally posted by Raycheetah:



"There is nothing new under the sun, except that which has been forgotten."

Reputedly spoken by Marie Antoinette's dressmaker. Source is disputed. Me, I'm too lazy to Google it.

Implications? So many gorram ideas out there, bound to see some of 'em pop up again, in different places, from time to time,

Still, Joss likely did see BSG:TOS, as well as many of the other shows mentioned. Conscious derivation? Almost certainly not. General influence? Hey, they various elements we enjoy in their combination in Firefly had to come from somewhere...

-Raycheetah =^[.]^=
The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.



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I vaguely remember there are only 3 main themes in literature, and everything can fall into one of those themes. Man vs man, man vs nature, man vs himself. So, since television is just visual literature(no comments on quality from me), and since it has to fit in to those three catagories, of course it makes *sense that ideas crop up again and again. Of course, how yo present those ideas is where true creativity comes in.

Gosh, did I go on and on!
*Edit: Ooops, I caught a boo-boo.

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
I think Joss ripped off whoever wrote Alien: Resurrection. Ya know, the rag-tag space pirates taking on odd transport jobs.

Can't Take My Gorram Sky
Aude sapere (Dare to know). -- Samuel Hahnemann, M.D.

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DERANGEDMILK


Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 08:59



Thats funny, I always thought it was a rip-off of that movie Serenity. I just gave Joss credit for ripping himself off before he actually did something. Genius, that one.

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
I think Joss ripped off whoever wrote Alien: Resurrection. Ya know, the rag-tag space pirates taking on odd transport jobs.

Can't Take My Gorram Sky
Aude sapere (Dare to know). -- Samuel Hahnemann, M.D.

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Originally posted by gorramgroupie:
I just watched that episode today, and I disagree. Everything about BSG and FF are different. BSG is a group of people on the run from enemies who want to destroy them, searching for a lost branch of their people. The use FTL, laser guns, improbable technology and contrived divisions. FF has extrapolated tech, people who are home, normal divisions(rich and poor still exist) and even the language can be traced to proper roots. Don't get me wrong, I love BSG, both then and now, but there is really no comparison between that and FF. Very different ideas.

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Originally posted by gorramgroupie:
I just watched that episode today, and I disagree. Everything about BSG and FF are different. BSG is a group of people on the run from enemies who want to destroy them, searching for a lost branch of their people. The use FTL, laser guns, improbable technology and contrived divisions. FF has extrapolated tech, people who are home, normal divisions(rich and poor still exist) and even the language can be traced to proper roots. Don't get me wrong, I love BSG, both then and now, but there is really no comparison between that and FF. Very different ideas.

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Originally posted by Causal:

I, too, have no sarcasm detector. You're wrong, Chrisisall, wrong!

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