Serenity question thats bugging me/you by BrownBug

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Serenity question thats bugging me/you

POSTED BY: BROWNBUG
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 07:50
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Thursday, November 8, 2007 4:26 PM

ok I have a question, feel free to answer it but also please post any questions you feel need explainng....

here we go...

how does thedooor open in Serenity when river has finished killing reavers, its all very dramatic but i feel its a little convenient that its just opens to reveal herdripping in blood. does she throw something at the door? is iton time release ? have i watched this film toooooo much ?

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Thursday, November 8, 2007 4:31 PM

NBZ

According to Joss Serenity is River telling Mal's story. Blame all the idiosyncrasies on her.

I think that was there for the coolness factor rather than any story. After all, she would know about the alliance about to blow a hole in the wall... especially as during her fight sequence you see the bolts come through to get hold of it... but she still does not do anything.

(Another question - if it is River telling Mal's story, the question for me is what happened to Mal ?(in the future) Why is he not telling it himself?)

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Thursday, November 8, 2007 6:31 PM

PLATONIST

Because River is the "incarnation of Mal's tortured spirit", I had to use that here, I just love it!

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Thursday, November 8, 2007 6:50 PM

ROCKETJOCK

No mystery. Since the Alliance burst through the wall behind River just seconds later, the blast doors opening means that they'd chosen to override all the interior locks in anticipation of the breach-and-raid attack that followed.

The fact that River just happened to be in a kick-ass bad-girl poster pose at that second can be attributed to Fate being a great director.

Well, or Joss...

"She's tore up plenty. But she'll fly true." -- Zoë Washburn

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Thursday, November 8, 2007 6:50 PM

FREEBROWNCOAT

Drama and remember, she can kill you with her brain.

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Thursday, November 8, 2007 7:08 PM

DUG

I've given my personal explanation of how the door opened to reveal River in the witchblade pose before...

River is crazy and has a sense of humor. After lopping off the head of the last Reaver she ran over, slapped the button and then ran back and posed just to impress the crew of Serenity.

It's much more funny to think of it this way than some lame "the Alliance blew all the doors in the entire complex at just that time even though they had apparently made it to just outside the room containing every Reaver on the planet" explanation.

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Thursday, November 8, 2007 7:08 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

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Originally posted by RocketJock:
Since the Alliance burst through the wall behind River just seconds later, the blast doors opening means that they'd chosen to override all the interior locks in anticipation of the breach-and-raid attack that followed.

That is an excellent explination.

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

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Thursday, November 8, 2007 7:26 PM

DAVESHAYNE

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Originally posted by nbz:
(Another question - if it is River telling Mal's story, the question for me is what happened to Mal ?(in the future) Why is he not telling it himself?)

Mal's not the kind of guy who talks about his past. Just ask Yo-saf-bridge.

David

'Geeks can't admit that anything worthwhile was invented before 1981. Soon, "making cocoa" will be called "milk hacking."' - Lore Sjoberg

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Thursday, November 8, 2007 8:00 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

I had thought it was due to Mal opening up the elevator doors when he came back (and all the doors behind him). This was a security pathway developed by Mr Universe. When he's coming out, it may have had timed circuits to open forthcoming doors. I had thought some description had been given about the time Mal goes down the elevator, but I'd have to review.

Or else River opens it with her mind.

But the alliance override sounds good.

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Thursday, November 8, 2007 10:34 PM

ASARIAN

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Originally posted by RocketJock:

No mystery. Since the Alliance burst through the wall behind River just seconds later, the blast doors opening means that they'd chosen to override all the interior locks in anticipation of the breach-and-raid attack that followed.

Best explanation so far. :)

--
"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

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Tuesday, November 13, 2007 1:38 PM

ZOID

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...

...It's movie magic, baby. It's the money shot. It's the perfectly timed climax (of the movie, you pervs).

...It's equal parts Seren(dip)ity and cinematic license. Don't try to make too much sense of it. Just go with it. As long as it's remotely possible that it all happened that bang-bang fast, why get twisted in a knot that Joss made it happen that way? Would you have been happier if Joss had the blast door open after the Purps tore out the wall, after the Op told them to stand down?

I mean, there's got to be some literary rules, as well as logical ones, right?

Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
That was a great shot. Along with the one of Mal with blood in his eye, just before the Op says "Stand down..."
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"I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDBOF'

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Tuesday, November 13, 2007 1:46 PM

RALLEM

All idiosyncrasies aside, we have no idea how powerful River really is. When she told Jayne that she could kill him with her brain, we assume she was just scaring him, but she could have been telling the truth, and if so, then why couldn’t she have pressed the button inside with her mind?

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Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:10 PM

QUIETUDE

Also make's me wonder if River somehow controlled Jayne by planting the idea of going for a 'niiiiiice shuttle ride', so she could escape from being locked up. She did after all kick his butt back in the bar.

If anyone could be controlled by their base impluses it would be Jayne.

Also makes me think she may have kept Jayne asleep during the whole Objects in Space episode, because she knew he would screw up her cunning plan.

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Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:16 PM

RALLEM

There is no doubt that she and Mal are the central and important characters to this story

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Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:20 PM

GORRAMGROUPIE

One of the reaver's heads that she had just lopped off flew over and hit the button, you can see it bouncing to the right.

Select to view spoiler:

Made you look!

"It's no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense." - Mark Twain

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Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:33 PM

RALLEM

But wasn't the door rigged so it could not be opened from the outside?

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Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:37 PM

GORRAMGROUPIE

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Originally posted by rallem:
But wasn't the door rigged so it could not be opened from the outside?

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Oooooh good point!So no bouncing reaver head. Peer pressure?

"It's no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense." - Mark Twain

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Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:17 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Quote:
Originally posted by rallem:
All idiosyncrasies aside, we have no idea how powerful River really is. When she told Jayne that she could kill him with her brain, we assume she was just scaring him, but she could have been telling the truth, and if so, then why couldn’t she have pressed the button inside with her mind?

Why would you assume she was not being entirely truthful and candid?

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Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:15 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Lucky coincidence.:<)
Five minutes earlier, and everybody woulda been reaver-lunch.
Five minutes later, and she'd have had to say, " You should have seen what just happened..."

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Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:50 AM

MICJWELCH

There is a Mystery Science Theater spoof about Serenity that mentions this.

http://eric261.tripod.com/mst3kserenity/mst3kserenity.html

Quote:
ZOE: Sir...
MAL: It’s done. Report. ....River?
[blast doors open to reveal River surrounded by dead Reavers]
MIKE: Oh great. Nice job of rigging the blast doors so they won’t open again, Kaylee.

I think the best explanation is that Mal came in through the elevator, and the next door was rigged to open. All though the theory about the Alliance over-riding the doors works well too.

"We may experience some slight turbulence, and then... explode."

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