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Bad Sci FI

POSTED BY: INSIGHT SPINNER
UPDATED: Friday, April 30, 2004 16:46
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Thursday, April 29, 2004 2:08 PM

I suppose its inevitable in a thread like this that every SF series in existence will eventually get a mention, since not everyone has the same tastes.

Well, except Firefly, of course.

Still, its remarable to me that anyone could lump the unambitious but consistent and fun Stargate SG-1 in the same catagory as Andromeda.

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Thursday, April 29, 2004 2:25 PM

GUNHAND

I'm just suprised no one brought up "Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone"...wait I just did. Okay, bad movie, but has Molly Ringwold so not all is lost. Hey I got a thing for redheads.

Another one I'd add as pure cheese is "Ice Pirates", but I like cheese. Cheese is good especially when you know they're thinking,"Man this is cheeeeese." during filming.

~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
"Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

My eerie-ass website:
http://gunhandsfirefly.homestead.com/Index.html

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Thursday, April 29, 2004 2:59 PM

ANNIK

I'll show my age here too, I guess.

"Dark Star" ... the end, which involves a panicked attempt at discussing phenomenology with an intelligent bomb about to go off (and take the ship that was supposed to drop it along with it) ... the end is *very funny*, but the zillion hours of tedium it takes to get to that point is hardly worth it.

... on another note, wasn't Battle Beyond the Stars the one with John Boy Walton as the hero? You've got to admit, the costuming of the buxom babe mercenary was inspired. LOL!

Cheers,
Annik

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Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:07 PM

GUNHAND

Quote:
Originally posted by annik:
I'll show my age here too, I guess.

"Dark Star" ... the end, which involves a panicked attempt at discussing phenomenology with an intelligent bomb about to go off (and take the ship that was supposed to drop it along with it) ... the end is *very funny*, but the zillion hours of tedium it takes to get to that point is hardly worth it.

... on another note, wasn't Battle Beyond the Stars the one with John Boy Walton as the hero? You've got to admit, the costuming of the buxom babe mercenary was inspired. LOL!

Cheers,
Annik

Yep that's the one! But even more inspired was the "is this different enough from the Enterprise yet so we won't get sued" ship he flew, complete with 36D titanium breasts!

Man they just don't make movies like that anymore...Thankgawd.

~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
"Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

My eerie-ass website:
http://gunhandsfirefly.homestead.com/Index.html

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Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:12 PM

GHOLA

I can't believe no one has mentioned Lexx yet I try to give shows a chance to catch my interests but I couldn't sit through an entire episode of Lexx.

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Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:27 PM

THUNDAR

Quote:
Originally posted by annik:

... on another note, wasn't Battle Beyond the Stars the one with John Boy Walton as the hero? You've got to admit, the costuming of the buxom babe mercenary was inspired. LOL!

Cheers,
Annik

Yes. I also think that ship was the inspiration for the Enterprise D. It looked very similar, all it needed was the Dome section.

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Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:28 PM

TMURRIE

How could I have forgotten Lexx! You what else really sucked..the ending to the nw Planet of the Apes movie. All the way through I'm like,this movie is awesome and they're gonna make a cool ending that would mean a sequel I KNOW IT! But then they didn't..and I was sad.

Star Trek, really. I mean voyager..come on...don't tell me they were brilliant, because sometimes I just wondered why this was the new star trek show. Good old predictable Voyager.

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Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:25 PM

INSIGHT SPINNER

Quote:
Originally posted by annik:
I'll show my age here too, I guess.

"Dark Star" ... the end, which involves a panicked attempt at discussing phenomenology with an intelligent bomb about to go off (and take the ship that was supposed to drop it along with it) ... the end is *very funny*, but the zillion hours of tedium it takes to get to that point is hardly worth it.

... on another note, wasn't Battle Beyond the Stars the one with John Boy Walton as the hero? You've got to admit, the costuming of the buxom babe mercenary was inspired. LOL!

Cheers,
Annik

AAAHHHHHHHH!!! I love the end of that movie. Yeah, it's so bad, it's good. And the bomb is hi-larious. It was a huge coup for me that my dad and brother allowed me to come along and see that bad thing. Now, what was it playing with? (remember when movies were double features?)

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Friday, April 30, 2004 2:30 AM

TRACER

Quote:

Perhaps you just didn't see it properly? B5 is heavily arc-based, and watching random episodes could definately leave the wrong impression. Especially because the standalone eps tended to be the series' weak point.

There's a reason B5 won two Hugos and an Emmy, though.

Oh, about the Trek movies. Yeah, some of them were bad. However, I think ST2, 4, 6, and 8 were solid enough.

i just don't know tbh, i couldn't get into it maybe i watched it upside down to everyone else...
i tried on numerous occasions to watch it but what really ended it for me, wasn't really the shows fault, i never really got much intake on what goes on the TV.. this is why i've probably got a bad sense of good and awful sci fi, worse when star trek is always put on, the DS9 theme still sends me shivers.
damn the BBC put Firefly on

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Friday, April 30, 2004 2:45 AM

ZORIAH

Wow, I rated Babylon 5 and Farscape as two of my favorite all time sci fi shows until I discovered Firefly.

Both of them IMO had compelling characters and interesting story arcs.

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Friday, April 30, 2004 2:49 AM

KNIBBLET

Quote:
.... watered down Coors (which is already watered down swill)... --The Hat/Jefé

In our house, we call Coors, "rocky mountain piss water". UGH! You have taste, Hat.

Pilots used to throw us mechanics beer bashes. They'd fly in with cases of Coors ('cause pilots are cheap - no offense to Static :). We'd ask them why they didn't buy us real beer. I realize it isn't the most gracious thing, but you'd think that someone would realize that enlisted troops still owned taste buds.

I adore Mark Harmon but know I could never kiss him because he willingly pours piss down that gullet. sheesh!

"Just keep walkin, preacher man."

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Friday, April 30, 2004 2:50 AM

WIZZLER

My big time bad sci-fi has to be the "war of the worlds" second season it made no sense what so ever (the first was pretty inconsitant but still entertaining) also movie wise many people say starship troopers well get this they made a sequal which from what I've heard is truely terrible.

Edit: oh yeah they made time cop 2 as well !!

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Friday, April 30, 2004 2:59 AM

EST120

Any movie that was shown on Mystery Science Theater 3000. The show was great, the movies were not. I remember one in particular called "Space Mutiny". Geez what a waste of time. The hero looked like that jock that was so popular in high school but was also such an idiot. The effects were dumb (it was an old movie, but good sci fi does not always need special effects). The only reason to watch the movie was for Mike, Crow and Tom Servo. :) I miss that show.

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Friday, April 30, 2004 3:32 AM

CALHOUN

Quote:
Ghola wrote:
Thursday, April 29, 2004 15:12
I can't believe no one has mentioned Lexx yet I try to give shows a chance to catch my interests but I couldn't sit through an entire episode of Lexx.

Lexx had its good episodes! and it was enjoyable just for the eye-candy (she's one of the horniest looking lass' ive ever seen.. cant remember her name.....)

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Friday, April 30, 2004 3:42 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

I can't believe no one has mentioned this one (unless I missed it above): Masters of the Universe! It starred Dolph Lundgren, Frank Langella, Meg Foster, Billy Barty, & an as of then unknown Courtney Cox.

It was terrible. I liked the original Masters of the Universe as a kid (though the original pales in comparison to the new cartoon my son watches), but this movie was a complete bomb.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Friday, April 30, 2004 4:43 AM

ANNIK

Quote:
Originally posted by insight spinner:
Quote:
Originally posted by annik:
I'll show my age here too, I guess.

"Dark Star" ... the end, which involves a panicked attempt at discussing phenomenology with an intelligent bomb about to go off (and take the ship that was supposed to drop it along with it) ... the end is *very funny*, but the zillion hours of tedium it takes to get to that point is hardly worth it.

AAAHHHHHHHH!!! I love the end of that movie. Yeah, it's so bad, it's good. And the bomb is hi-larious. It was a huge coup for me that my dad and brother allowed me to come along and see that bad thing. Now, what was it playing with? (remember when movies were double features?)

insight spinner
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Actually, I have to admit to being young enough to see it on video, but old enough to get the philosophy. :-)

I don't think I've ever actually personally seen a double feature ... but I think they were still floating around when I was a kid. :-)

Cheers,
Annik

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Friday, April 30, 2004 4:52 AM

KNIBBLET

Quote:
Originally posted by est120:
The only reason to watch the movie was for Mike, Crow and Tom Servo. :) I miss that show.

Check out the episodes with the original cast. Joel, Tom Servo, Crow, Dr. Clayton Forester and TV's Frank.

As a Twin City-an, I can attest that many of the jokes told are best understood by our breed. We get stuff that goes by you. :)

MST3K had conventions here - the "Parade of Torgos" was always a magnificent sight.

"Just keep walkin, preacher man."

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Friday, April 30, 2004 5:04 AM

CARTAGIA

Geez. I believe some people are repressing memories...

For instance, anyone remember a little movie called Highlander 2? (I can't believe I waited in line an hour on opening day to see that piece of shit)

And of course, the Movie-That-Must-Not-Be-Named... Batman and Robin ...

Simon: I've never shot anyone before.

Book: I was there, son. I'm fair sure you haven't shot anyone yet.

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Friday, April 30, 2004 7:25 AM

ANNIGERRIA

I can't believe no-one has mentioned Zardoz, my favorite BAD Sci-fi and guilty pleasure. Sean Connery in a red diaper! John Boorman's direction.
*sigh* Did I say Sean Connery in a red diaper?

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Friday, April 30, 2004 7:52 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Quote:
Originally posted by Cartagia:
Geez. I believe some people are repressing memories...

For instance, anyone remember a little movie called Highlander 2? (I can't believe I waited in line an hour on opening day to see that piece of shit)

And of course, the Movie-That-Must-Not-Be-Named... Batman and Robin ...

Simon: I've never shot anyone before.

Book: I was there, son. I'm fair sure you haven't shot anyone yet.

Highlander 2??? I am a Highlander fan & we do not recognize Highlander 2. That was a mass delusion caused by a release of methane gas.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Friday, April 30, 2004 8:04 AM

WEERWOLF

As awful as Highlander 2 was... At least it had some funny moments. I really wanted to get my money back for Highlander 3! And it was a showing in a special rated theatre, where they showed movies on a sort of rerun. Converted to USdollars, I think I paid about one dollar... But I wanted it back! Desperately!

Apart from that: if a show or movie is cheesy it makes up for the bad, I guess. Some shows are a whole lot of fun when not taken too seriously. I had a great laugh watching Tremors the movie for example.

Zoe: "River honey, he's putting the hair away now." River: "It doesn't matter. It'll still be there. Waiting."

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Friday, April 30, 2004 8:15 AM

NORUDDINWAY

The last one and a half seasons of Lexx were pretty terrible, but the first couple were great, well story-wise anyway. The acting wasnt so great, but the story was good. Also as bad sci-fi goes, I found that Farscape was insanely hard to get into, I mean I'm all for in-story but JESUS H CHRIST, you can't just pick up and episode and start watching without being completely lost. Mutant X and Andromeda are pretty bad now, but Andromeda used to be good. I think that the best part of Andromeda is the names of the episodes. Whoever said Babylon 5 was bad should be shot... unless they were talking about Crusade, then you're ok.

The last 2 Matrix movies weren't terrible, but they were definately in the bad catagory.
How about Timeline and Paycheck... yeah just plain bad.

You only gotta scare him.

Pain is scary.

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Friday, April 30, 2004 8:47 AM

JABBERWOCKY

Well I just have to say that there was only one Hightlander movie I don't care what anyone else has to say there is only one.

Earth 2 that sucks so much, especially at the end of it. Andromeda when down hill so fast after the guy that developed the series was given his walking papers, MutantX could have been better but went down hill fast after the first season. Voyager I couldn't watch the show anymore after the first three episodes. Logans Run the TV series don't work for me. Day of the Trifids the movie was not good the TV min series was way better. It didn't end with Salt water being the solution. No solution was around. There as a time when on network decided to spend the Summer airing a whole bunch of sci-fi tv pilots and they all stunk one was another version of the Knight Rider series taken place in the future where civilization has taken a turn for the worse Knight Rider 2010 with Hudson Leick, come to think it the Team KnightRider series had a smell to it.

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Friday, April 30, 2004 10:40 AM

MRSKBORG

Besides Mutant X which I absolutley despise and am very relieved that it will not be tainting our screens again in the future, Andromeda lost the plot after season 2 so I gave up. As for the Matrix Reload - eek didn't even watch the third one, like Highlander for me "there can be only one". And Mercy Point, which I had completley forgotten until this post refreshed my memory dear god! I'm pleased that other folks don't like Starship Troopers either its frelling awfull - but I have too say I rank both B5 and Farscape with the best!

The single worst Sci Fi ever - a series that was shown here in the UK by the BBC several years ago, it was a Gerry Anderson production (loved Space 1999 etc) called Space Precinct. It had some bloke in it from Knots Landing I think he played someone called Gary? Anyways it is The worst ever...........and then some. Trust me, its very..........well,absolutley frelling CRAP!!!!!

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Friday, April 30, 2004 12:55 PM

WEERWOLF

Space Precinct was bad... But cheesy too. I thought it was funny. Mutant X is awful.

Firefly, Farscape and Stargate SG1 are my favourite sci-fi series. I watch all of them on DVD. Firefly started airing about four weeks ago, and Farscape is on rather irregularly on a very inconvenient time (sunday mid afternoon or so - nor right for dark humour and scary plottwists and Scorpius). Stargate SG1 was aired on a weekday at four in the afternoon ages ago. Aparently the channel manager thought it was a kid's show...

Btw, Firefly is running on primetime on Saterdaynights here (The Netherlands), against Andromeda and Idols... I'm not sure how well it is doing. I'm telling everyone in my family and my colleagues to go watch Firefly.

"Okay, I need that in captain dummy talk."

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Friday, April 30, 2004 2:08 PM

TRAGICSTORY

I might get flamed for this but: Titan A.E.

Great start, great potential but so cliched that it was a real disappointment.

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"Societies are supported by human activity, therefore they are constantly threatened by the human facts of self-intrest and stupidity." --Peter Berger

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Friday, April 30, 2004 4:46 PM

INSIGHT SPINNER

Quote:
Originally posted by Annigerria:
I can't believe no-one has mentioned Zardoz, my favorite BAD Sci-fi and guilty pleasure. Sean Connery in a red diaper! John Boorman's direction.
*sigh* Did I say Sean Connery in a red diaper?

**************************************************
Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving and revolving at 900 miles an hour... The Galaxy Song, Meaning of Life, Monty Python
**************************************************

OMG!!! I think I saw Zardoz with Dark Star!!??!! Is that possible??

It's like a horrible surpressed memory.

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