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We need Simon to be a typical man for a while, for the comdedy gold and for the fact that everyone knows a guy like that, we can relate. We wish him well but we still like to chuckle when we see the big crash coming, even if he doesn't. In a weird way Simon is the George Costanza of Firefly...okay now I am babbling. Time to quit.

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Originally posted by Meneluin:
Interesting that you mention Jayne and Kaylee... my friend swears that Jayne has a thing for her. I always thought it would be fun to see what would happen to some guy (well, except Simon) if he REALLY broke Kaylee's heart... Mal is protective of her. If she was upset enough, I bet he'd send them halfway into next week.

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We need Simon to be a typical man for a while, for the comdedy gold and for the fact that everyone knows a guy like that, we can relate. We wish him well but we still like to chuckle when we see the big crash coming, even if he doesn't. In a weird way Simon is the George Costanza of Firefly...okay now I am babbling. Time to quit.

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We all know a guy like simon?! Show me to him!

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I think one of the most interesting relationships on the show isn't a romantic one but the friendship that's building between Jayne and Book.

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We need Simon to be a typical man for a while, for the comdedy gold and for the fact that everyone knows a guy like that, we can relate. We wish him well but we still like to chuckle when we see the big crash coming, even if he doesn't. In a weird way Simon is the George Costanza of Firefly...okay now I am babbling. Time to quit.

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Yeah a couple of my best friends are a lot like him, I mean these are relatively attractive guys, make fine money, nice cars, all the things that women look for in a guy but as soon as they approach one...

It ain't pretty. They don't just wind up with their foot in their mouth they wind up with both of them, the table leg and a barstool. They just lock up or say the exact wrong thing at the moment where if they'd just shut up they'd be golden.

Back in college, known some of these guys since then which is scary, I actually used to do prep work for them. You know, go and talk to the lady, talk my friends up, get the womenfolk interested...then they come over and something like,"Ever wonder why toilets in Australia spin backwards?" comes out of their mouth. Or even better,"You look a lot like my sister." Yeah, that's when I back carefully away from the car wreck I know is now in motion...

So yeah, Simonisms aren't as uncommon as people would like to think, at least with the crew I used to run with.



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that would leave:
Jayne/River (ta da!)
Some of y'all are sayin' "gross" or something like that, but face it, that is the option that would be left. For my part, I really don't see that as so bad, given that River is a tad less whimsical in the brain pan and Jayne is developing into an almost-human/guilt-having/semi-moral man. He seems to be capable of real concern (that is my take on why he was looking on when Kaylee was shot in "Serenity", and gearing up and coming with in "War Stories") which constitutes real growth for him.

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I like the Jayne/River pairing and it wouldn't surprise me if they did end up together.

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I dunno. That whole getting slashed across the chest (requiring how many stitches?) and then backhanding the girl across the mess hall thing doesn't seem terribly romantic to me. But then again I'm an old-fashioned kind of guy. Whatever blows your skirt up, I suppose...

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Subject = Best Pair....

Hmmnnn.. Saffron without a doubt has the "best pair"!

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Jahzara:
(Edit) Oops, almost forgot: Imagine the comedic opportunity as the entire crew grimace at the high-decibel moaning and groaning issuing from Jayne/Kaylee's crew quarters, during those first blushing weeks of their 'romance'. WASH: "A bucket of ice water as I understand it, Sir, is quite effective for separating the livestock."

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Follow me for a sec. When we 'meet' Kayley in OoG, she's doing what? Taking advantage of poor Bester just so's she can get a better look at Serenity's engines from underneath, on her back. Now I'm not much of a judge of a man's sexual prowess, but Bester comes across as monkeysurferguy and the brief glimpse we get as Mal rounds the engine is that, as Ian Hunter (before Great White) put it, Kaylee "was givin' what she got". She also relates a story to River in (I believe) OiS about a freakishly well-endowed boy she ravaged back home, earning her daddy's wrath.

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Based on what we've seen of Simon thus far, I'm led to believe that -- despite having finer facial features and being more well-mannered than Jayne -- he may be something of a novice (virgin?) at procreational gymnastics. That might not fly with Kaylee, who appears to like a rollicksome time in the hay.

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Originally posted by VicPalisades:
My pair?

I go with one I proposed a while back:

Kaylee/Wash.

Think about this:

What if Wash thought Zoe was dead?

It's possible.. a deal goes bad, they have to make a run for it...Zoe doesn't make it to the ship in time and everyone thinks Zoe has been killed...flash forward, Kaylee (after realizing she and simon are NOT meant for each other) comforts Wash and something develops between them...then..a few months down the road...

BAM!

Zoe shows back up.





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Originally posted by fireflygal:

I love the Kaylee and Simon pairing but really don't see it lasting because of what we know about Kaylee's sexual appetite. I don't think Simon has it in him to keep up with her.

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SO much fun!

Meneluin:

There is no way Simon's a virgin. I'm sure that he (like Kaylee said in The Message) at least some women who wanted a gorgeous, rich, and intelligent doctor from a very good family. I'm sure he's been seduced or something when he was younger. But I doubt Simon has ever been in a serious relationship. I have a whole 'nother fanfic floating around in my head for that.

I need to find time to write.

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I absolutely agree, the odd couple friendship that those two have going on is great. If ever there is a lull in the ship, chances are you can find them together, chances are having a deep philosophical debate about whether or not Vera has a soul.

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Hmmnnn.. Saffron without a doubt has the "best pair"!

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I disagree. Saffron may have the biggest pair, but that hardly makes them the best. My vote is for Zoe or Inara.

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Sorry but i think that is a fairly bad idea, sounds very Soap Opera oriented. highly original, but i think it would take away from the integrity of the show

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I love the Kaylee and Simon pairing but really don't see it lasting because of what we know about Kaylee's sexual appetite. I don't think Simon has it in him to keep up with her.

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Ummm... just because she was with Bester (and who wouldn't want a better look at those bad *ss tattoos) doesn't mean she has an inordinate sexual appetite. I mean, she seems to be hanging in there for the long haul with the abstinance thing. I think she's more than willing to wait for some Simon, although she might not wait forever.

Although, I'm not particularly a Simon/Kaylee fan -- to me they are part and parcel of the world I bought into when I fell in love with Firefly.


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Just a thought, Insight Spinner, it's not only Kaylee and Bester, it was the fact of the "somewhat odd" place Kaylee chose for their lovemaking. Kaylee not being particularly embarassed by Mal's appearance, also her not bothering to zip her dress all the way up. Then take a look at The Message, sure looks to me like Kaylee is flirting with Tracy, right up till he takes her hostage. Don't get me wrong, I loved Jaynestown where Simon and Keylee woke up snuggled together, then in The Message where Kaylee slips her hand into Simon's. I'm just pointing out from the indications in other episodes, Kaylee seems to be "easy" and I just don't see a prim and proper Simon being able to equal her in bed or engine room or wherever...

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Ummm... just because she was with Bester (and who wouldn't want a better look at those bad *ss tattoos) doesn't mean she has an inordinate sexual appetite. I mean, she seems to be hanging in there for the long haul with the abstinance thing. I think she's more than willing to wait for some Simon, although she might not wait forever.

Although, I'm not particularly a Simon/Kaylee fan -- to me they are part and parcel of the world I bought into when I fell in love with Firefly.


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Just a thought, Insight Spinner, it's not only Kaylee and Bester, it was the fact of the "somewhat odd" place Kaylee chose for their lovemaking. Kaylee not being particularly embarassed by Mal's appearance, also her not bothering to zip her dress all the way up. Then take a look at The Message, sure looks to me like Kaylee is flirting with Tracy, right up till he takes her hostage. Don't get me wrong, I loved Jaynestown where Simon and Keylee woke up snuggled together, then in The Message where Kaylee slips her hand into Simon's. I'm just pointing out from the indications in other episodes, Kaylee seems to be "easy" and I just don't see a prim and proper Simon being able to equal her in bed or engine room or wherever...

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Yeah, but that doesn't seem like an out-of-control sexual appetite to me. She didn't get any from Tracy (but there wasn't a lot of time). I would call her easy going rather than easy, I think. Seems her sex drive is pretty normal, since it is clear that she is not a person to eschew sex until a certain relationship milestone has been accomplished. I mean, it's clear she wants some Simon yesterday, too. She's definitely not channeling chastity, but that doesn't mean she has a sexual appetite that Simon can't match. And since she is so patient, she can wait for him to catch up. Although, maybe he can't. He's a Big Damn Nerd and I am hardly a Simon apologist!!

This is fun, fireglygal! WHEEEEEEEE!! If you are right, maybe Kaylee she should just go be with Jayne.

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Ummm... just because she was with Bester (and who wouldn't want a better look at those bad *ss tattoos) doesn't mean she has an inordinate sexual appetite. I mean, she seems to be hanging in there for the long haul with the abstinance thing. I think she's more than willing to wait for some Simon, although she might not wait forever.

Although, I'm not particularly a Simon/Kaylee fan -- to me they are part and parcel of the world I bought into when I fell in love with Firefly.


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Just a thought, Insight Spinner, it's not only Kaylee and Bester, it was the fact of the "somewhat odd" place Kaylee chose for their lovemaking. Kaylee not being particularly embarassed by Mal's appearance, also her not bothering to zip her dress all the way up. Then take a look at The Message, sure looks to me like Kaylee is flirting with Tracy, right up till he takes her hostage. Don't get me wrong, I loved Jaynestown where Simon and Keylee woke up snuggled together, then in The Message where Kaylee slips her hand into Simon's. I'm just pointing out from the indications in other episodes, Kaylee seems to be "easy" and I just don't see a prim and proper Simon being able to equal her in bed or engine room or wherever...

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Yeah, but that doesn't seem like an out-of-control sexual appetite to me. She didn't get any from Tracy (but there wasn't a lot of time). I would call her easy going rather than easy, I think. Seems her sex drive is pretty normal, since it is clear that she is not a person to eschew sex until a certain relationship milestone has been accomplished. I mean, it's clear she wants some Simon yesterday, too. She's definitely not channeling chastity, but that doesn't mean she has a sexual appetite that Simon can't match. And since she is so patient, she can wait for him to catch up. Although, maybe he can't. He's a Big Damn Nerd and I am hardly a Simon apologist!!

This is fun, fireglygal! WHEEEEEEEE!! If you are right, maybe Kaylee she should just go be with Jayne.

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You know, Insight Spinner, Kaylee just might have a sexual match in Jayne but that's just wrong. I think of the Jayne/Kaylee relationship as a brother/sister thing. As for Simon, well maybe he'll throw down those manners and respect for Kaylee and let himself be shown a good time. I just see Simon as so conventional (if you catch my drift) I see him thinking Kaylee would be weird for some of the places she'd want to do it.

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Ummm... just because she was with Bester (and who wouldn't want a better look at those bad *ss tattoos) doesn't mean she has an inordinate sexual appetite. I mean, she seems to be hanging in there for the long haul with the abstinance thing. I think she's more than willing to wait for some Simon, although she might not wait forever.

Although, I'm not particularly a Simon/Kaylee fan -- to me they are part and parcel of the world I bought into when I fell in love with Firefly.


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Yeah, but that doesn't seem like an out-of-control sexual appetite to me. She didn't get any from Tracy (but there wasn't a lot of time). I would call her easy going rather than easy, I think. Seems her sex drive is pretty normal, since it is clear that she is not a person to eschew sex until a certain relationship milestone has been accomplished. I mean, it's clear she wants some Simon yesterday, too. She's definitely not channeling chastity, but that doesn't mean she has a sexual appetite that Simon can't match. And since she is so patient, she can wait for him to catch up. Although, maybe he can't. He's a Big Damn Nerd and I am hardly a Simon apologist!!

This is fun, fireglygal! WHEEEEEEEE!! If you are right, maybe Kaylee she should just go be with Jayne.

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You know, Insight Spinner, Kaylee just might have a sexual match in Jayne but that's just wrong. I think of the Jayne/Kaylee relationship as a brother/sister thing. As for Simon, well maybe he'll throw down those manners and respect for Kaylee and let himself be shown a good time. I just see Simon as so conventional (if you catch my drift) I see him thinking Kaylee would be weird for some of the places she'd want to do it.

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All i wanted to say as far as a River/Jayne relationship.. well two things. 1) he's seen her naked already. (heh.) 2) His first impression of her, "She's cute, too, but I don't think she's all there, y'know? 'Course, not all of her has to be..."
I was surprised no one put that in... i dug up this thread just to say that.

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