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Originally posted by Raycheetah:
Waitin' for my Large Hadrons to Collide, VUMP!

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You had better hope they don't!!! G*d I hope those people know what there doing!

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destroyed the world yet?" & the one word answer:
NO
Made me laugh.

OK, seriously though... I've studied up on this a bit (physics enthusiast): Even if they manage to create a black hole by slapping a few dozen particles into each other at a realative 2x the speed of light (speed of light one way + speed of light the other = realative 2x speed of light even though the collision itself can only occur at a max 1C (things get wierd at these speeds, and your frame of reference is everything)), the hole will not have enough mass (mass generates gravity, gravity holds the hole together) to sustain itself, and will evaporate in a fraction of a second because of the repulsion of the protons (like poles repel. Force of repulsion is a function of the distance between the protons squared. Near zero distance between them = near infinite repulsion).
Theoretically, the smallest self-sustaining black hole would require a mass greater than that of Sol. A mass the size of our sun (even our entire solar system) ends it's existence as a supernova (almost burns out, lack of reaction allows gravity to implode the mass, increase in density produces huge increase in reactivity which casuses explosion (giant thermonuclear warhead). These guys just can't play with enough mass to pose more than a local (in the collision chamber) hazard.
Now that I'm thinking about it... It should be possible to create & sustain a black hole as long as you pump enough power into it to overcome the inherent repulsion... If it gets too big, or power is interupted, the hole tears itself apart. I wonder how big a bang that'd be? Worst case it'd be on the order of a thermonuclear detonation of identical reaction mass. Baseball sized mass of plutonium can take out most of a major metropolis, but these guys are playing with a few sub atomic particles at a time, not kilograms.

Sorry for the length. Someone clean up my recall of the theory if I'm in error please.

Oh yeah: Vump.
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Originally posted by Raycheetah:
Waitin' for my Large Hadrons to Collide, VUMP!

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You had better hope they don't!!! G*d I hope those people know what there doing!

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Heard on NPR this morning that there's a website dedicated to "Has destroyed the world yet?" & the one word answer:
NO
Made me laugh.

OK, seriously though... I've studied up on this a bit (physics enthusiast): Even if they manage to create a black hole by slapping a few dozen particles into each other at a realative 2x the speed of light (speed of light one way + speed of light the other = realative 2x speed of light even though the collision itself can only occur at a max 1C (things get wierd at these speeds, and your frame of reference is everything)), the hole will not have enough mass (mass generates gravity, gravity holds the hole together) to sustain itself, and will evaporate in a fraction of a second because of the repulsion of the protons (like poles repel. Force of repulsion is a function of the distance between the protons squared. Near zero distance between them = near infinite repulsion).
Theoretically, the smallest self-sustaining black hole would require a mass greater than that of Sol. A mass the size of our sun (even our entire solar system) ends it's existence as a supernova (almost burns out, lack of reaction allows gravity to implode the mass, increase in density produces huge increase in reactivity which casuses explosion (giant thermonuclear warhead). These guys just can't play with enough mass to pose more than a local (in the collision chamber) hazard.
Now that I'm thinking about it... It should be possible to create & sustain a black hole as long as you pump enough power into it to overcome the inherent repulsion... If it gets too big, or power is interupted, the hole tears itself apart. I wonder how big a bang that'd be? Worst case it'd be on the order of a thermonuclear detonation of identical reaction mass. Baseball sized mass of plutonium can take out most of a major metropolis, but these guys are playing with a few sub atomic particles at a time, not kilograms.

Sorry for the length. Someone clean up my recall of the theory if I'm in error please.

Oh yeah: Vump.
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Right!...thinking very hard...sounds good to me. I read that Hawking's thinks they will fail, they appear to be looking for the "Higg's" particle.(not sure i got the name right) I know I got the words wrong, but he said,...it's the 'God' particle,...the 'thing' that powered the "Big Bang". Thats about all the science I know,...the test run appears to be good though....

Go to Yahoo, right now its on the news updates and its in the science section. I tried to post a linky, but it didn't work, sorry.


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...it's worse than you know...Operative
...it usually is.....Mal

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Originally posted by kralizec:

Long time listener, first time vumper. Have been voting since the last few months of tvvote.
Hello Everyone!!

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Are you ok Ray?

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Just what you needed Ray - another hole in your head
Glad all went well. Self medicate as needed
vumped through the list.

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Originally posted by Traevynn:
Make that 221 votes for Firefly.
Morning all and a big shiny welcome to Kralizec! Sorry to hear about the evil Jolly Rancher attack, Ray. Take drugs...lots of drugs.
Gotta get coffee STAT. Busy day ahead.

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only behind by 13 on TvTally,...I think the count thing might be fixed.

Its raining! It hardly ever rains here, its been raining since 9:00 pm,...nice soft steady rain.

Looks like I've been adopted by a red kitty, he stuck his head in my kitchen window about three weeks ago, and he was very skinny. I asked if he was humgry, he said yea so I fed him. Been feeding him everyday now, he has gained weight and is the size he should be now. Seems like a good kitty,...don't know where hes sleeping. I will have to get him in when the cold weather comes.

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vump - we have a closet kitty. Showed up months ago; took her in; got her shots; she hides behind the dryer in the laundry room as my 5 dogs are a problem. Well, mostly just the biggest one. Any advice on how to smooth the introductions would be appreciated.

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