How is it these fourteen episodes plus one feature film rule my consciousness? by chrisisall

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How is it these fourteen episodes plus one feature film rule my consciousness?

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
UPDATED: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 22:56
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Friday, September 26, 2008 6:25 AM

On a visceral, guttural level, FF/Serenity defines me.
I love freedom.
I embrace the idea that I shape my destiny.
I accept that 'civilized' society attempts to step on these ideas.
But I'm still flyin'.

There's a little part of me I see in every character in Firefly, that must be why I love it so.

Comments?

Chrisisallinthe'Verse

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Friday, September 26, 2008 8:01 AM

JAKEWOLFE

I'm right there with you Chris...

Probably about the 250 thousandth time I've watched Firefly straight through than followed up with a movie (and this time with a new 'coat, one of my friends)

He was mad as hell after we got through OiS because there was nothing more for him to watch, and he wanted to know what F*x was thinking cancelling such a beautiful show... I told him I didn't know...

Anyway, way to many lines to count and too many situations to count but they still always make me laugh, cry, and get the chills... and that theme song...

Firefly will get into your head and your heart and haunt your very soul

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Friday, September 26, 2008 8:16 AM

MOCKINBIRD

mhmmm. I have watched Firefly atleast 20 times already and I only found out about it this past month. I love everything about the series and the movie.
True da, Jake. after all these times of watching the episodes I still laugh, still cry and quote the theme song and the lines.

I am a Browncoat for life.

xox mockingbird

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Friday, September 26, 2008 8:17 AM

SERENITYRIDDLE

It is amazing how Firefly and Serenity have consumed my life and I couldn't be happier. I remember watching the movie first. Then I watched all the episodes and the movie and ever since then I have been hooked. Firefly lingo works its way in to my every day speech patterns at home as well as at my job... I don't think I have ever been as drawn to a show as I am still drawn to FireFly and Serenity. I even have introduced the show to my new roommates and we are almost done watching the Firefly episodes and then we are going to watch the movie and I am trying to be prepared for the utter devistation that will visit upon the household when we are done. Curse you F*x! Curse you!

"Also, I can kill you with my brain" -River Tam

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Friday, September 26, 2008 9:43 AM

JONGSSTRAW

There really are only 2 types of people in the world: Browncoats, and then everybody else. Browncoats understand this, and there is always a special connection on some level to any other Browncoat.

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Friday, September 26, 2008 10:51 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
There really are only 2 types of people in the world: Browncoats, and then everybody else. Browncoats understand this, and there is always a special connection on some level to any other Browncoat.

And we will hold.

The dramatic Chrisisall

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Friday, September 26, 2008 11:29 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

What!? Fireflu -- You must be kiddin. This was the single worst series on TV. I couldn't stomach it's redundant characters, the absurd premise that the wild west would resurface in space and what kinda universe has no aliens!!! Sheesh! 500 years in the future and still no contact with a higher lifeform?!! Ridiculous!! The only thing going for it was that hot chick with the loony speech!! (or was that some language I just didn't understand....)

I... Oh... I just can't do it.

It's great and everyone knows it! I tried. I tried to find something negative about it but I can't. It's just too wonderful for words, probably too good for semiphores too but it deserves a thumbs up from everything with thumbs -- including tacks!

How is it these fourteen episodes plus one feature film rule your consciousness Big 'C' ?

...because you have a conscience.

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Friday, September 26, 2008 12:20 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
you have a conscience.

And a very fine Lego Serenity, and thanks to an excellent artist, a great image of it in space!

Chrisisall

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Friday, September 26, 2008 10:20 PM

JAKEWOLFE

Heh, I saw that Chris... very shiney ship you and your son made there!! You win the battle for painting it, or is it still all lego-ie?

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Friday, September 26, 2008 11:31 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"

Going on the title alone, for me, it's the fact that Joss Whedon and his remarkable team put together something so close to perfection in the TV arena... To me 'Out of Gas' was perhaps the perfect episode of any show in any genre ever!

My favourite episode remains 'Heart of Gold', there was so much humanity and strength in that episode.

Then there's the fact that we, who know a good thing when we see it and who are intelligent and imaginative human beings, really object to the TV studios pulling everything down to the level of morons... they want to get the morons who won't question the advertising they sell and will just go out and buy whatever is being thrust down their throats, whilst we want quality programming that challenges our intellect and connects with our emotions. We are loyal and passionate and we object to being treated badly because we're more intelligent than the morons they want to target!

Plus - it's so pretty and shiny and we all really want to live on Serenity in our dreams!

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Saturday, September 27, 2008 1:39 AM

ZZETTA13

Chris,

I have to say that I’m with you on this my browncoat friend. Hardly a day can go by that something doesn’t happen to me that in some way is a parallels the firefly universe. I mean it may be just a quote from one of Serenity’s crew that matches up so well with a current conversation I’m in or it could be a situation. Not that I’m in gun battles all the time or bank heist, just the mundane things that happen on the ship and the group arguments, I mean points of view that are expressed seemingly all at the same time.

The show is so well written that a lot of people can identify with it. Had it been on another network I’m sure it would be into it’s seventh season right now and it’s internationally loved by millions.

Z, having his morning cup of coffee with a couple tea spoons of firefly sweetener and two pours of mudders milk, aaahhhhhhhhh…. That tastes SHINY!!

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Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:15 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by JakeWolfe:
You win the battle for painting it, or is it still all lego-ie?

Right now, it's still original Lego-colour...

Butthiswillchangeisall

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Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:42 AM

IMNOTHERE

Quote:
How is it these fourteen episodes plus one feature film rule my consciousness?

Well, I just finished watching Firefly season 7.1 and, sadly, its pretty clear that this series has failed to live up to the promise of the early episodes.

Its never been quite the same since Mal married Inara (albeit after a whole season of rather contrived false starts, kidnappings and amnesia attacks - even the writers realised that marrying them off would make things dull) in Season 3 - and promoting Badger and his new wife MaryYoSafBrig to regular characters is further evidence that you can have too much of a good thing.

The DVD commentary does explain why the big Season 7 story arc - River becoming an evil maniac as a result of the tragic end of her lesbian relationship with Kaylee - felt as if it belonged in another show. Apparently it was something Wheedon had sketched out for a proposed TV spinoff of his hugely successful "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" movie franchise - and I can't help thinking that the idea would have worked better in a fantasy setting. Given that everybody knows that the season finale is a cross-over with the critically panned spin off "Ariel Hospital" and features the return of Simon Tam, the resolution of the arc is all too predictable.

I suspect that Wheedon's second career as a country and western singer/songwriter (kickstarted with the chart success of "The Ballad of Serenity Valley" which was ironically, dropped as the Firefly theme tune after the network failed to agree royalties with Wheedon) is distracting him from his writing duties and is he simply recycling ideas from old rejected scripts.

What saves this season is that it is short (12 episode) season, truncated by the recent Viewer's Strike and lacks the padding of 20+ episode marathons of the likes of "BSG" and "24". This made me wonder what we would now be discussing had it not been for the mysterious event that day 7 years ago which, reputedly, persuaded Fox not to can the show after only 14 episodes had been made.

All the fans agree that those first episodes set a standard which later episodes could not hope to maintain (apart from the two part Season 2 finale, which would have made a superb movie). Just because 14 episodes of something are good doesn't mean that 100 episodes will be better. Had the axe fallen then, perhaps Firefly would have been an enduring gem, rather than just an OK space show which enjoyed a brief moment of critttt#####$$$$$$$ +++CARRIER LOST

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Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:54 AM

CHRISISALL

Hi-lariousisall

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Saturday, September 27, 2008 6:05 AM

ZZETTA13

LOL….this is great IMNOTHERE!! But……

Have you forgotten the fantastic mid-season episode of season4? “My Strange Countrymen” Where Shepherd Book’s illegitimate child shows up on Serenity, keeping his “I never married and I’m not a grandpa” yet, statements intact.

And what of Niska’s becoming a Monk?
And Jayne’s affair with the horse? Strictly on a mind to mind level remember. Lets not get weird.

That episode had me clinching my teeth and sitting on the edge of my chair. I understand the following episodes petered out a bit after that but that one almost rated as high as OoG.

JMO, Z

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Saturday, September 27, 2008 6:17 AM

AIRPOTBORKER

I'm still trying to figure this out myself. How weird is it that The Captain is my role model?

"When you can't run, you crawl...and when you can't crawl, when you can't do that... you find someone to carry you."

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Saturday, September 27, 2008 6:23 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by airpotborker:
I'm still trying to figure this out myself. How weird is it that The Captain is my role model?

As America leans more toward Alliance behaviour, Mal becomes more & more a legitimate role model indeed.

Chrisisall

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Saturday, September 27, 2008 6:57 AM

IMNOTHERE

Quote:
Originally posted by zzetta13:
And what of Niska’s becoming a Monk?

Not quite as good as "Throw Momma from the Spaceship" in which Jubal Early's mother turns up seeking revenge for her son's death. That final scene where Jayne's mum turns up and the two women fall into the volcano... awesome!

Or "Too Much Information", where we discover (in flashback) the origins of Mal's penchant for cross-dressing (as evidenced in OMR and the BDM).

I think the real shark-jumper was "Oh, what a lovely 'verse" - the famous musical episode. I could see this working as a sort of straight-to-web spoof, but not as a proper episode. Mind you, Summer Glau belting out that cover version of Amy Winehouse's "Rehab" was a revelation. What a voice!

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Saturday, September 27, 2008 6:58 AM

CHRISISALL

They're killin' Chrisisall

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Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:13 AM

OPPYH

It rates as one of my favorite shows ever(second only to Buffy).

Looking forward to the Blu-Ray, and counting the days until Joss finds a way to bring it back to television.

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Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:11 PM

CHRISISALL

My list is
#1 Firefly/ Star Trek re-mastered original series (TIE)

#2 Buffy/ Dark Angel (TIE)

Chrisisall

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Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:10 PM

MOOSE

Quote:
Originally posted by zzetta13:
And Jayne’s affair with the horse? Strictly on a mind to mind level remember. Lets not get weird.

That episode had me clinching my teeth and sitting on the edge of my chair. I understand the following episodes petered out a bit after that but that one almost rated as high as OoG.

At least it provided the springboard for the launch of The Man Called Jayne on FX. I still say the first year's cliffhanger and it's resolution in season 2 are some of the best televsion ever aired!

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Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:18 PM

ZZETTA13

This thread has had me cracking up all day!!

Z

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Saturday, September 27, 2008 5:19 PM

OPPYH

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
My list is
#1 Firefly/ Star Trek re-mastered original series (TIE)

#2 Buffy/ Dark Angel (TIE)

Star Trek original series, and TNG are tied for third place for me. Star Trek is an awesome overall series. I love every one of them, including Enterprise, and Voyager.

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Monday, September 29, 2008 10:22 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
There really are only 2 types of people in the world: Browncoats, and then everybody else. Browncoats understand this, and there is always a special connection on some level to any other Browncoat.

I'd be willing to add a 3rd type: those like Kevin Smith, who at least recognize and respect the fervor of Browncoats. Paraphrasiong him, "don't mess with Browncoats, they're celebrating a show that hasn't been on in years."

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Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:56 PM

SHINYGOODGUY

Chris,

I'm thinking that any show that gets you to wax poetic in describing how ya' feel about it has to have something very special to offer.

But it's like thisisall: the crew is us. We have people here from literally every walk of life loving this show. The family aboard Serenity is like us - we fuss and fight but in the end we're pulling together to keep this ship flying. Like the crew we are flawed and great all rolled up into a fantastic soup. We all seek that FREEDOM Mal is so quick to latch onto, and anything that disturbs that puts us in a foul mood.

Let's face it we all want to be on that wonderful ship and away from Alliance meddling. Living by the seat of our (tight)pants. BTW I love the way my fellow Browncoats talked about our fav subject - Firefly. There's so much more but I just wanted to share these thoughts with you guys.

Loveisall

Shiny! Let's be bad guys!

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