Imponderables: Autumn Arrives by nvghostrider

Fall is here. Yay!

Previous THread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=34971&m=642850#642850

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:43 AM

Firsties?

I like the new thread warning on the last thread. Followed by an actual new thread. Warning is love.

(I just had ice cream, I'm hyper, leave me alone.)

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:48 AM

oooh ooh me too...I want to go home and play DDR!

Ok HK this is for you:)

Ck ok so want to see those costumes

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Life is anything that dies when you stomp on it.”-Dave Barry

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:50 AM

Darn you being all fast like a freak.

Bah today is a slow work day for me. And the world series of poker europe webcast is on their dinner break for the next 2 hours. What am I supposed to do in that time? Work or something? Actually I'm just stuck waiting on other people to get their act together before I can really do much. I hate times like this.

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:52 AM

Yeah while I was working on my reply he went and created a new thread...

MUSHY ALERT
However he's so amazingly wonderful it's all good
MUSHINESS ENDS

Hmm Zeek have you considered learning to knit??

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Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength; loving someone deeply gives you courage."
Life is anything that dies when you stomp on it.”-Dave Barry

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:54 AM

Rofl MsB, that sign is awesome. Extra awesome because that N could easily be switched to an M and no one would ever have known how dumb the person was. So it's not a momentary lapse in spelling, they're really that stupid.

Mmmmm, muslin... Lovin the sewing right now. And I'll see what I can do for pics. I'm altering hubby's "puffy harem pants" right now, because they are, apparently, too puffy.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:
Yeah while I was working on my reply he went and created a new thread...

MUSHY ALERT
However he's so amazingly wonderful it's all good
MUSHINESS ENDS

LIES! The mushiness never ends!!!

(Omg ice cream!)

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
(Omg ice cream!)

But is it Stephen Colbert ice cream? That stuff is awesome btw.

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 9:02 AM

Nah, it isn't, unfortunately. I missed my one chance to try out Americone Dream. Sigh.

No these days I'm restricted to organic ice cream that uses evaporated cane juice instead of sugar or corn syrup. So that means 4 flavors of Ben&Jerry's Organic, and another brand I just found called Julie's Organic. Really yummy stuff though.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 9:04 AM

Hmm that sounds nummy... I want ice creams. Sadly instead I have 3 behavior reports and a tempermental boss combined with another consultant who's freaking out over work space...argh

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Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength; loving someone deeply gives you courage."
Life is anything that dies when you stomp on it.”-Dave Barry

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 9:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:
Yeah while I was working on my reply he went and created a new thread...

MUSHY ALERT
However he's so amazingly wonderful it's all good
MUSHINESS ENDS

Hmm Zeek have you considered learning to knit??

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Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength; loving someone deeply gives you courage."
Life is anything that dies when you stomp on it.”-Dave Barry

Murder Death Kill John Spartan?

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 9:36 AM

You probably shouldn't emcourage me to mayhem... really pissed at another consultant who went bonkers 'cuase stuff from one office got moved to hers and she pitched a fit and now our boss( the micro manager) is all upset and we can't so much as move a file without her approval... plus I got to spend my lunch moving furniture( sigh I was so excited that I might get time for lunch)and I got to be blamed and criticized for the previous funriture moving because I happened to be in the office when the tech moved it ( under orders from someone else that I won't rat out 'cause she doesn't deserve to get yelled at) and apparently my presence was enough to make me the one who authorized it...sigh

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Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength; loving someone deeply gives you courage."
Life is anything that dies when you stomp on it.”-Dave Barry

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 11:29 AM

You know what's fun? Leaving a shit-ass job because the execs fucked it up so badly, and yet not having your email address removed from the "Staff" list. I get all kinds of fun emails, sometimes just notices about the pizza being delivered and in the conference room, and sometimes things like what I got today: a request for feedback from the team on a very well thought out 5+ page analysis of the product from an outside consultant.

This consultant happens to be someone I know and trust and have worked with before, and who is generally frickin awesome. We haven't talked about the specifics of this product since the very beginning of its life, around the beginning of this year. And in her incredibly detailed 5+ page analysis she points out everything that I spent 8 months telling the execs was fucked up about their product. Everything! It's so nice to see, especially since I'm totally not suppose to be seeing it. And since I know her rates are pretty steep (and deservedly so), it fills me with glee to know that they paid her for that opinion, on top of paying me for 8 months of my opinion.

Now I get to continue to lurk on the Staff email list and see what happens next. I really hope someone replies to all with their thoughts on her feedback. It'll be interesting to see if they take any of it to heart -- my guess is no. So entertaining.

Glee!

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 11:37 AM

Oh mega glee CK... That definitely deserves a Nelson -esque HA HA!!

So I wonder what their excuse to teh higher ups will be...see we hired this person and she told us all this is wrong but we didn't believe her so we hired a consultant who just told us the exact same thing...

HUGS CK

OK I'm going to lunch now

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Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength; loving someone deeply gives you courage."
Life is anything that dies when you stomp on it.”-Dave Barry

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 11:40 AM

I wish I could do that when they finally decide to just totally eliminate my department. We've been shrinking ever since I got here and sounds like we'll shrink down to 2 people next year. I wonder if they realize they're handing us all the power? Pretty much that will leave us with no one left who knows what either of us do and how we get our product out the door. It will be interesting to see if I decide to just say something like "hey I'm thinking of finding a new job unless you make it worth my while to keep you from having to explain to upper management why you just killed the release"

I'm sure eventually they'll just decide they don't need me at all and then when they find out why they need me there will be emails flying all over the place trying to figure out how to recreate everything. It would be great to be a fly on the wall at that point.

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 11:46 AM

It's a very small company MsB, so the higher ups were the fuck ups, no one above them. There's the Venture Capitalist firm that backed the company to begin with, but they've been a delightful combo of idiotic and hands-off, so either they don't know what's going on or they don't care. They've also pissed literally millions of dollars away on the stupidest shit since the very beginning, so I'm not sure my 8 month salary even makes the list.

So, thinking about this actually leads me to a ponderable. See, several other core team members left about the same time I did, because of the aforementioned fucked-up-ed-ness. A couple of people we were friends with are still at the company for various reasons, so along with still being on the Staff list, it's pretty easy to hear about what's going on internally currently.

Now despite the glee above, I actually don't spend much time thinking about those guys, but everyone else who left recently seems to still be thinking about it. And talking about it. And rehashing what happened. I just don't care. I want to move on and forget about it already!

It occured to me the other day that this is a bit like breaking up. When a break up (or divorce) happens, some people seem to want to dwell on it, to pick it apart and try to put it back together. I'm just not like that. When it's over, it's over, I'm done, I'm out of there. No more thinking about it, no more talking about it.

Hubby and I were waiting in line at Disneyland a few weeks ago, and heard a teenage girl on her cell phone, obviously in the midst of a break up. She kept saying that she thought he at least owed her an explanation. I kept thinking, no, he doesn't. It's over, move on. Knowing what he was thinking at that party when he wouldn't tell you or whatever the hell she kept crying about isn't going to make you feel any better in the longrun.

Anyhow, so the ponder: What's your breakup style? Do you prefer to make a clean cut, including changing your phone number and even friends to separate yourself from your ex? Or do you find you need more of a gradual disentangling of the relationship, kind of like the mirror image to how we usually ease into a relationship? Or something else?

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 12:02 PM

Clean cut. Not changing numbers I've never hated someone I broke up with. If they needed to call me for something I'd still want them to be able to and I'd probably be willing to be there for them to some extent. At the same time I don't want to just chat. I don't want to be friends. I don't want that weirdness. If it's over it's over for good.

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 12:11 PM

HELL'S KITTEN

Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:
So I wonder what their excuse to teh higher ups will be...see we hired this person and she told us all this is wrong but we didn't believe her so we hired a consultant who just told us the exact same thing...

Holy crap, that sounds exactly like what my company does.
Maybe I really am CK...! XD

My guess is their "excuse" will be that the consultant is wrong, so they'll find a new one until they find one who'll tell them what they want to hear. At least, that's how my company operates. ((snerk))

..."break-up style"...? Not qualified to comment.

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 12:32 PM

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 12:55 PM

Clean cut and cold. I made a weeks worth of meals, did the laundry, packed my things, moved my stuff all before he got home. Then I basically said this doesn't work for me bye. walked out and never looked back. The divorce took 2 months from start to finish...I'd rather just be done with it. All that rehashing is pointless. Done is done.

hmm so a California/Ninja/Kaylee/Hell's Kitten melange???? eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 12:56 PM

HELL'S KITTEN

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 1:08 PM

lol that bottom heart smiley is so cute ^_^

YAY FALL!! sunday...

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 1:23 PM

RUGBUG

I'm a dweller for a bit and then I get over it. This is for all types of relationships, friendships, employment, dating, etc.

I do admit to indulging in the 'your better off without the loser' sentiments for quite some time afterward, but whatever. For how unemotional and unattached a person I am, I take rejection pretty bad. :)

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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 2:16 PM

*lights zeebug signal*

how's it goin RB? haven't seen u round in a while ^_^

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 2:26 PM

Gosh, you all got verbal on me and now I have quite a bit to respond to.

VOTING: do it like in Heinlein's BOOK(not the craptastic movie) where to vote you must serve the country, defending it. And to be able to run for office should be a nomination, but not the current scratch my back I'll scratch yours setup we have now. I honestly don't know what the criteria would be, maybe a ponder for another time?
Can't say I'm happy with either choice this time, just like last time, and the time before, well,anything was better than Bill. Maybe not, seeing how well that's turned out. Why is it the best person for the job would turn it down if offered, because if they wanted it they would have run?
PS my wife said that if Hillary had won the nomination, we were moving to Canada. I agreed. I'm not partisan, but 8 years of one Clinton were bad enough.

Halloween: working, then herding the kids around to get massive amounts of candy. Which they will then have to share.

Breakup: do it, be done, then replay it over and over in the head ad nasueum. While listening to Depeche Mode and Journey love songs, locked in the bedroom, for a few days, then put it all behind and go find someone else. Glad I'm not having to do that now.

'Who are you and how did you get in here?' 'I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.'
Police Squad

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 3:55 PM

AIKO

To follow Gorram's model since I do like having lists ^_^

Voting- well, it's bad choice and worse choice, but if I were able to vote, I'd vote for Obama, simply to NOT have Palin. I cannot tolerate her stance on abortion.

Breakup- I'd say, cut and clean. It's done, it's over, and there's no point in trying to "put a relationship back together after mentally dismantling it" if you don't plan to do just that in rl with your boy/girlfriend!

ack, sorry... brain is happily mush, but that means I can't really word things right anymore... please take the meaning and not what I actually said... if that makes any sence

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 4:14 PM

ooh happy mush... what is the happy mush?

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Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength; loving someone deeply gives you courage."
Life is anything that dies when you stomp on it.”-Dave Barry

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 5:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Aiko:
To follow Gorram's model since I do like having lists ^_^

ACK!! NO!!! Don't follow Gorram, he's as lost as the rest of everyone else!

'Who are you and how did you get in here?' 'I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.'
Police Squad

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Friday, October 3, 2008 5:59 AM

Good morning Ponderers!

Another wonderful day stuck at work despite being here longer than I need to be. And I get to pick up on a few extra jobs today. Yay me. On the other hand I just filled out my resume and I look like a total goon.

TGIF!

No. Wait. I'm on call this weekend.

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Friday, October 3, 2008 6:24 AM

Wow this assclown who was 3 levels of management above me for the longest time is finally leaving the company. There has been much rejoicing.

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Friday, October 3, 2008 7:29 AM

Ponder: If y'all could have
A)Money
B)Fame
C)Ability to fly
D)Mad DDR skillz
which one would you choose?

I can't seem to be able to choose between them.

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Friday, October 3, 2008 7:51 AM

How much money are we talkin?

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Friday, October 3, 2008 8:01 AM

How about perfect change? Everytime you go to buy/do something, perfect change on hand.

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Friday, October 3, 2008 8:20 AM

Ability to fly. It would make me famous and I'm sure I could get some money filming movies or commercials or something out of it. I've only played DDR twice but I assume I could have mad skillz at it if I tried. :-P

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Friday, October 3, 2008 8:32 AM

RUGBUG

I would want money.

Fame is over-rated. Sure you get stuff, but you also have people ogling you wherever you go. I wouldn't mind being admired, but I wouldn't want the wierdness that comes with fame.

Quick relationship clarification: If I end things...it's over and done with. If I've been dumped, I'm a dweller. I like having reasons. The first case I know the reasons. Second I may or may not. If I do, it's good. If I don't, I dwell for a bit.

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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

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Friday, October 3, 2008 8:39 AM

Money!!
I play DDR for fun, don't like to fly, and would hate being famous:)

NV Poor guy had to go in early despite the fact that at this point his work owes him basically a day off for all his overtime this week

I was all set to go home early today 'cause I came in early and all.. then realized I have a meeting at the time I'd be able to leave so I guess I'm over time again:) Sigh

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Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength; loving someone deeply gives you courage."
Life is anything that dies when you stomp on it.”-Dave Barry

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Friday, October 3, 2008 9:01 AM

In my current situation: MONEY!!! It's terrible how bad choices come back to haunt you. Stupid credit system!

'Who are you and how did you get in here?' 'I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.'
Police Squad

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Friday, October 3, 2008 9:16 AM

Right with you Gorram.. over shopped at D*C paying for it big time now ( well that and my evil cell phone company dinging me with fees and my evil credit card company going for fees as well)

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Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength; loving someone deeply gives you courage."
Life is anything that dies when you stomp on it.”-Dave Barry

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Friday, October 3, 2008 9:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by gorramgroupie:
In my current situation: MONEY!!! It's terrible how bad choices come back to haunt you. Stupid credit system!

But you can make money by flying. Think of all the olympic long jump medals you'd win. That would at least get you on a wheaties box or something. Plus how cool would it be to be able to fly?

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Friday, October 3, 2008 10:36 AM

Mmmm. Wheaties.

(THought I was going home for lunch so I left it there. Crap)

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Friday, October 3, 2008 11:21 AM

OH no not again...

NV

Ok soooo want to go home....one more meeting. I can do one more meeting:)

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Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength; loving someone deeply gives you courage."
Life is anything that dies when you stomp on it.”-Dave Barry

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Friday, October 3, 2008 11:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by NVGhostRider: Ponder: If y'all could have
A)Money
B)Fame
C)Ability to fly
D)Mad DDR skillz
which one would you choose?

dude, I belong in the air. ability to fly, hands down.

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Friday, October 3, 2008 11:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by freelancertex:
dude, I belong in the air. ability to fly, hands down.

*high five* good call

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Friday, October 3, 2008 11:46 AM

^_^ thanks. *high fives back*

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Friday, October 3, 2008 1:07 PM

Think I'm out for the day. Might check in later.

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Friday, October 3, 2008 1:21 PM

*waves* We'll miss you NV!! *glomps*

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Saturday, October 4, 2008 8:25 AM

Happy Saturday people. Taking MSB shooting today. Can't wait for lunch. This might be a good day.

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Saturday, October 4, 2008 9:05 AM

Chicken tortilla soup ( homemade) for lunch and shooting!!! wheeee

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Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength; loving someone deeply gives you courage."
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Saturday, October 4, 2008 10:28 AM

Both would be good to me about now. Feeling the need to see something destroyed by my own hand. A plate of food or a target, it's all good.

'Who are you and how did you get in here?' 'I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.'
Police Squad

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Saturday, October 4, 2008 1:32 PM