Imponderables: Bobbin' For Apples by nvghostrider

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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 10:59 AM

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(dances a Firsties Jig)

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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:02 AM

Missed firsties by THAT much!

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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:03 AM

Missed firsties by THAT much + 1.

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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:17 AM

Confession: I have never bobbed for apples.

Sad, no?

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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:38 AM

Not really. Ya gotta figure yer tryin' to grab an apple that might have already been bitten or slobbered on by the people in front of you, the water has already had faces in it, and with it being cold folks are snottin' and stuff in the water. Yeah, kinda gross really.

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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:41 AM

lol I've never bobbed for apples either but with NVGs shiny description I don't think I'll ever want to.

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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 12:11 PM

I don't know where that game came from , but every time I see it all I can think is way to spread the germs...eeeeeeeeeeeeew

Ok this headache is blinding and then some... 7 hours with one of the top 10 most oppositional kids I've ever worked with...at least I can head home soon

and Halloween( Samhain) soon....so so so thrilled for so many reasons
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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 12:56 PM

ooh, are they caramel apples?? ^_^

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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 2:00 PM

TRAVELER

I never did the apple trick either. Never thought how unsanitary it is. It is not as if I have not done unsanitary things. But I will leave that for another discussion.

I hate carmel apples. I have a small mouth and the carmel makes them slippery so I never get my teeth to bite in to one.

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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 2:01 PM

AIKO

wait, people actually do that??? I thought that was just something done, like, waaaaay back in the past, or was just something that's a common joke in cartoons and stuff

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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 2:26 PM

yes, people do. I even won once, but now have to go singe the germs from my skin........thanks NV

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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 4:37 PM

yeah i remember bobbing for apples when i was a kid. it was at school. and it was fuckin COLD. *shivers* woulda been more pleasant if we did it in like the summer ><

i love caramel apples. it's candy apples i hate :P never could stand those things ><

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Wednesday, October 8, 2008 6:43 PM

EEEWWW bobbing for apples at school. Lord only knows what kind of hellish germ soup that would be...

HUGS FMF consolingly

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 4:16 AM

lolz, well we only did it once, and I never got sick from it anyway :-P guess I got lucky lol.

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 5:44 AM

'Morning folks.

I see everyone is kinda grossed out by the whole bobbin' thing.

What are some of the other gross/dumb things they made us do in school?

I ALWAYS hated square dancing in music class.

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 5:55 AM

the only gross thing i remember about school were the lice outbreaks in elementary >< but then again that was because they had us all putting our coats in the same closet, so when one kid got it, *everyone* got it @_@ dumbasses.

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 6:36 AM

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Hey y'all.

I don't think I ever bobbed for apples, though I know I was at parties/events where bobbing was going on. I've just never been very interested in putting my face under water with my hands behind my back, call me crazy. Never thought about the germ issue as a kid, but given my germ sensitivity now, probably not such a bad thing that I never partook.

So speaking of candy apples and Halloween and all that fun stuff, maybe you guys can help me brainstorm a bit. I hit a pretty bad flare last week, so my health is back in the dumper and I'm back on pain meds.

I'm doing my best to cut this flare short (ie, not 3-6 months) by sticking to my diet 100%. That means nothing processed, no sugar, no corn syrup, no artifical sweeteners. Right before Halloween. Crap.

So I've been trying to come up with options for Halloween candy. I have a type of ice cream I can eat and a recipe for cookies that works for me, but I haven't been able to find any candy that I can eat. Not one single thing. We have a party to go to on the 31st, which should be a blast but I'm not sure I'll get to enjoy any of the food.

And while we won't have trick-or-treaters (we'll be gone anyhow), every year they do a round of trick-or-treating at hubby's office, with the kids who are too little to go door to door. I went last year to hand out candy and had a blast. I really want to go again this year, but I feel weird about handing out candy that I can't eat. Everyone knows each other there, so something homemade would probably be ok. I'm just not sure what. Cookies? Like sugar cookies in shapes (using evaporated cane juice) maybe? My other thought was homemade popcorn in little baggies -- I'd love to find little orange jack-o-lantern bags, but I'm not sure if they even make them that small.

Anyhow, any thoughts? I'm trying really hard not to get depressed about Halloween. Thanksgiving always makes up for it (since I cook everything myself, and can make sure it's all safe), but the time between then and now is rough. Especially being back on the pain meds, sigh.

Oh, and one other question -- any thoughts on alcohol? ^_^ I'm going to a convention this weekend (Zeek knows what it is!) and there will probably be a lot of drinking at the little convention bar and at restaurants, I think. But I've recently realized how little I can actually drink, especially because I like sweet drinks, don't really like anything just straight or on the rocks, and don't really like beer. I've figured out that I really like extra dirty vodka martinis, but most places won't make them dirty enough for me. At home I drink vodka and cranberry, but only when I can buy the cranberry juice myself, and be sure that it's 100% juice. So drinking out is gettig harder and harder -- of course, right around the time of all the parties and fun stuff. Sigh.

Anyhow, if you guys have any ideas, let me know. I don't know what the point of autumn is without treats and alcohol.

~CK

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 6:43 AM

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Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
Oh, and one other question -- any thoughts on alcohol? ^_^ I'm going to a convention this weekend (Zeek knows what it is!) and there will probably be a lot of drinking at the little convention bar and at restaurants, I think. But I've recently realized how little I can actually drink, especially because I like sweet drinks, don't really like anything just straight or on the rocks, and don't really like beer. I've figured out that I really like extra dirty vodka martinis, but most places won't make them dirty enough for me. At home I drink vodka and cranberry, but only when I can buy the cranberry juice myself, and be sure that it's 100% juice. So drinking out is gettig harder and harder -- of course, right around the time of all the parties and fun stuff. Sigh.~CK

maybe gin and tonic would work?

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 7:26 AM

CK! I'm so jealous btw. I was worried when I got to the paragraph about your flare that you weren't up to going anymore. Glad to hear you're going anyway. That's the spirit! I bet you're going to have a great time.

As for halloween stuff I bet they do have little halloween themed bags you can put popcorn in. Mainly because I know I've seen people make popcorn balls to give out and I've seen them in little halloween bags. So, you might be able to find something like that.

I'm not much help on the alcohol though. I bet some others will be of better help.

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 7:44 AM

Ck ok waaaaay cool idea of the popcorn balls I bet the little ones would love that and their parents would like them getting something not so processed:) Also you could do pully candy with cane sugar or homemade caramels( I have recipes if you need them)
HUGS sorry about the flare up sweety...hmmm well why don't you contact whoever's throwing the party and ask if you could bring some appetizers or a dessert and then you'd know there was something there you could eat.
You do know you can specify to the bartender I want a vodka martini ( practice at home and figure out how much olive juice you like in the martini) with 1/4 oz or 1/2 oz of olive juice. They have the measures there and most bartenders really want to make it the way you like. Have you tried a vodka martnini with a lemon twist? Also try an old fashioned or a sidecar

Hmm elementary school things that seemed stupid... I'm not much help there as I went to a private school, but I did hate it when we all had to do those ridiculous school programs

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 10:45 AM

bumping with a ponder...well more a frustration

I've been doing evals of 5-6 year olds with major behavior issues and all of them know swear words and sexual language I didn't know at anything near that age and until college in one case seriously what in the hell is going on that a 5 year old kid can use the C word ( and spell it) or that a 6 year old calls his teacher a dirty whore... sorry just disgusted with parents who have either got home situations or something else that has exposed kids to abusive language like this...so my ponder/question is do you think exposing your kids to this is child abuse?

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 11:13 AM

I don't think it's abuse. I'd call it poor parenting because I would hope I wouldn't expose a child to that language. I think that stuff is sort of up to parents though. Some people really don't believe that sheltering their kids is the right way to go. That's pretty much their right IMO.

To me abuse is something that should involve taking the children away. I don't fit this under that category.

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 11:13 AM

Here's a twist that the kids will love. In the center of the popcorn balls, put a wrapped treat, like a jawbreaker or square bubble gum, the kids love it and it's out of your sight. Did that for treat day in Kinder, and all the kids loved it.

I give a blanket sympathy hug, not knowing you personally or the circumstances behind the flare up, but anything that causes pain I wish was better.
(I didn't want to be callous and just post a cheerful suggestion)

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 11:21 AM

well the kid's not just using the C word he's saying " you f'ing C you should die like the f'ing C you are" to the teacher. That seems like less sheltering and more the kid has overheard sentences like that and I'd definitely classify that as verbal abuse.But just using the C word ( since the kid does actually know what it means) is not a good sign at all. Plus it's ok to decide not to overprotect but a kid saying those sorts of words is in for a world of trouble at school and is likely to be labled as a problem kid. It's fine if you let your kid use whatever words you want at home, but it's a bad idea to let them think it's ok to say anywhere..
I'd say violent aggressive behavior in front of your kid is definitely abuse. It cause all kinds of emotional problems and psychological damage and I'd say teh F word is common usage enough that the kid could easily have picked it up in a myriad of situations but the C word is not one that gets said in movies or in public for the most part so he more than likely heard it at home and if he uses it in an aggressive context then that's likely the context he heard it in... hence my thinking that something else is going on. I'm all for people having the right to raise their kids the way they want, but if they'r going to expose their child to a lot of profanity and allow the kid to repeat it at school they're going to have to expect a lot of parent teacher conferences with the school psychologist ...

So if you like your kid to talk like a sailor on shore leave make sure you tell him/ her to pretend to be a nun/pastor at school:)

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 11:22 AM

New post for the ponder. It has a lot to do with the home situation, and if they think that kind of language is common and appropriate, that's an indication of the home life, and you can bet that there is worse going on.
So the answer is yes, abuse.
My dad was a police officer for 20 years, and most of that as a school resource officer, and the leading detective on child abuse cases, and what little we heard about that, this is pretty common.

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 11:52 AM

I think you'd need to be able to show the psychological harm the child is experiencing. At that point it's not really a concern about how the parents caused the harm as much as just getting the child into a better environment. That's just the way I look at it though. I don't see the kids on a regular basis and I'm not a parent. So, big grain of salt there.

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 1:28 PM

yowwwie, that kid needs some soapage in the mouth!

I feel like shit people, feel free to hem and haw over me.

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 1:52 PM

Hem and haw? More like bring you snacks and stuffs.

WHat's up?

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 1:55 PM

the flu

I have the freakin flu

I AM death warmed over

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 2:02 PM

Holy poop on a flag pole!
(Sends some immunity tour way)

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 2:07 PM

and I think that I am getting hives in reaction to the antibiotics I got for the sinus infection the flu caused, and this is not good because it means I can not take sulpher antibiotics, Keflex OR penicillin so basically I am screwed

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 2:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MsB: well the kid's not just using the C word he's saying " you f'ing C you should die like the f'ing C you are" to the teacher. That seems like less sheltering and more the kid has overheard sentences like that and I'd definitely classify that as verbal abuse.But just using the C word ( since the kid does actually know what it means) is not a good sign at all. Plus it's ok to decide not to overprotect but a kid saying those sorts of words is in for a world of trouble at school and is likely to be labled as a problem kid. It's fine if you let your kid use whatever words you want at home, but it's a bad idea to let them think it's ok to say anywhere..
I'd say violent aggressive behavior in front of your kid is definitely abuse. It cause all kinds of emotional problems and psychological damage and I'd say teh F word is common usage enough that the kid could easily have picked it up in a myriad of situations but the C word is not one that gets said in movies or in public for the most part so he more than likely heard it at home and if he uses it in an aggressive context then that's likely the context he heard it in... hence my thinking that something else is going on. I'm all for people having the right to raise their kids the way they want, but if they'r going to expose their child to a lot of profanity and allow the kid to repeat it at school they're going to have to expect a lot of parent teacher conferences with the school psychologist ...

(O)_(O)....
wtF?
that...sounds like a huge parenting problem. first off them even saying stuff like that in front of the kid, and second them not drawing the line by telling them 'this is stuff you dont repeat ever' if something does slip out that the kid shouldnt hear. but yeah thats..thats pretty gorram bad if the kids obviously think its okay to say that kind of thing. and the fact that he knows what it means, which means its been explained to him (and it really shouldnt have been, not at age five or six) indicates some sort of issue on the parents' part as well. but thats just me ><

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 2:57 PM

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Originally posted by MSB:
{naughty language}...so my ponder/question is do you think exposing your kids to this is child abuse?

Impolite words constitute "child abuse"?

Fuck no.

Poor parenting is more likely.

But you start down the path where taboo or inappropriate words constitute abuse, and you're on a path I can't fucking abide.

--HK, Opinionated Cunt

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Thursday, October 9, 2008 3:14 PM

I am with HK

fuck is just a word, so is C9nt

any word is bad if the intent is there, but saying that, little kids should not be using that word. I don't use it. I hate that word

It is not child abuse, if using bad language in front of your kids is, then call social services cause I talk like a sailor

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Friday, October 10, 2008 5:21 AM

OK thanks guys this helps me balance and realize it wasn't so much the language that bothered me but that the imagery the kid used and the abusive tone of it indicates one angry little munchkin... I think the big thing is say whatever you want at home just be sure your kid knows there's a time and place for that language and school isn't it....( well elementary school and probably junior high) You don't want your kid being the one who crosses the principal's doorway constantly and ends up labeled.

OK new ponder... weather change joy! It's snowing right now and I am little kid thrilled ( partly 'cause I already arranged the day off so I could totally clean) So my ponder is... how do you feel about the first snow of the season?

HUGS FMF and sends her virtual soup and tea

OK and in a side note... what exactly is the origin of the word cunt??

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Friday, October 10, 2008 5:25 AM

KELKHIL

Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:

OK new ponder... weather change joy! It's snowing right now and I am little kid thrilled ( partly 'cause I already arranged the day off so I could totally clean) So my ponder is... how do you feel about the first snow of the season?

HATE IT

I hate the snow! Hey Jack Frost! Go to hell you elf-ish bitch!

Ok now that that is out of my system.

I truly hate the winter. I hate feeling closed in. I get cabin fever I guess you could say.

Some men just wanna watch the world burn

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Friday, October 10, 2008 5:27 AM

Dry as gawd knows what for months and now..

...SNOW!

KInda feeling it too. Yay.

Loves for HK and the waggly brow giggles MSB had last night when I read her your post, priceless.

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Friday, October 10, 2008 5:29 AM

But but...don't you go outside and play in it??

I hate large quantities of it as it impairs my ability to wear cute clothes and shoes, but I do love it when the first snow swirls... NV started yelling when he got up and I came to see what the fuss was...yippee!!! snow :) time for sweaters and hot tea and toasted marshmellows and stews and homemade bread... snowmen and snowball fights and sledding, and definitely time to clean everything completely and then take a hot bath,put on some comfy sweats and curl up in my squashy chair with a book and some hot tea:)

NV

HUGS HK..I do so adore you ...opinionated cunt:)

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Friday, October 10, 2008 5:42 AM

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Originally posted by MSB:
how do you feel about the first snow of the season?

Is "glad that there isn't one" a fair answer? A great part of Austin is no snow! If I could convince my family to celebrate christmas down here I would. Stupid snow.

I can obviously survive snow. I can put up with it. I don't like it though. If I had my choice I'd probably never live in a snowy location.

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Friday, October 10, 2008 5:48 AM

Hey any answer as good as long as it's the one you really feel:)

So you're dreaming of a brown christmas???

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Friday, October 10, 2008 5:50 AM

KELKHIL

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But but...don't you go outside and play in it??

Not enough to make it worth it. I do take my daughter sledding a couple times a season but not enough to make me like the snow. You can't just decide to go out and "play". You have to put on warm clothes, then put on snow pants, then you jacket , hat and glove... oh and a good pair of boots. Too much work to go outside for a few minutes. Oh and did I mention it was cold???? Blah!

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Friday, October 10, 2008 6:17 AM

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Originally posted by MSB:
Hey any answer as good as long as it's the one you really feel:)

So you're dreaming of a brown christmas???

Nah...Austin is fairly green year round. There's not really any color change here. I'm fine with it. The whole "oh the fall is so pretty" stuff is no big loss to me. I'm a creature of habit. I don't need change.

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Friday, October 10, 2008 6:25 AM

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Originally posted by MSB: OK and in a side note... what exactly is the origin of the word cunt??

((appalled!))

MsB, I find your language both offensive and disparaging. Please tone it down.

It is apparently a very old word, being traced back to the late 1200s, all versions of which seem to have a similar meaning....

As for the complete origins of the term, needless to say, I didn't really dig into it.

^ (horrible, horrible pun) ((so ashamed))

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Friday, October 10, 2008 8:34 AM

Well, snow's gone, it's just cold now. Very, very cold.

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Friday, October 10, 2008 8:38 AM

ROTFLMAO!!! Ok HK I do so love you...and your terrible terrible pun

OK back to cleaning 2 large rooms to go and all closets, bathrooms, and rooms have been cleaned, dusted, windows washed, everything scrubbed....sooooo nice ( yes I am a total nut who derives great satisfaction from taking a day off and scrubbing, cleaning and organizing an entire house:)

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Friday, October 10, 2008 8:41 AM

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Originally posted by MsB: OK new ponder... weather change joy! It's snowing right now and I am little kid thrilled ( partly 'cause I already arranged the day off so I could totally clean) So my ponder is... how do you feel about the first snow of the season?

O_O!!! YOU GUYS ARE GETTING SNOW???? IM IN CONNECTICUT AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY SNOW!! our first snow of the season usually gets here bout novemberish. Kinda can't wait cuz past few winters we've had green christmas :-\ green christmas is no fun.

Quote:
Originally posted by NVGhostRider: ADD: FIREFLY VODKA IS AVAILABLE IN NEVADA. YAYYYYY!!!!!! Just need to hunt for it now.

NOT FAIR!!!! the closest it's distributed to me is new york. granted its next door, but it's still a hike :-P

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Friday, October 10, 2008 8:43 AM

Utah is next to Nevada, and we have no snow, just a light frost. Bummer, I have a 12 year old who needs a whitewash.

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Friday, October 10, 2008 8:50 AM

We haven't had rain in months (a few sprinkles) and it went from sunnier than hell to gray and snow. Should be about 75 degrees and hot by Tuesday, IMHO.

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Friday, October 10, 2008 8:53 AM