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Originally posted by freelancertex:

Could you picture another name for him?

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Originally posted by Gilove2dance:
Interesting, AGENTROUKA. Very interesting point. Yes, Jayne is most complex and not so dumb I think. He just doesn't have book smarts. Very interesting point.

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Originally posted by Staples:
I always thought it was "Jayne" for 'J'ohn W'ayne'

The clear western fighter. I'm probably wrong though.

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Originally posted by traveler:
But this is a man's name. Jane is the spelling for a woman.
Edit: Just went to Wikipedia and found two women with this spelling.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Not to hijack the thread, but still Jayne related....

We saw from OoG that Jayne impresses Mal w/ his ability to track two crafty war vets down, but after that, what does Jayne ever do that even hints at some extraordinary skill or ability ???


( Other than an alleged neck shot w/ a bent scope from 500 yards , that is )

As Simon said...I'm trying to think ...but nothings comin'



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


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Originally posted by boris:
I don't see Jayne as complex. I see him as having Aspergic tendencies...incredibly smart but essentially driven by primal considerations which may mask his intelligence...He's completely baffled by social conventions, but still craves that connection to others, and never quite gets it right...and to his credit generally doesn't let that phase him...also to his credit he willingly learns from those around him, who in their own way break things down into little chunks so he can understand them. This ultimately leads to him actually caring about the rest of the crew, and understanding how to show that...he still has a long way to go, but he's getting there.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Not to hijack the thread, but still Jayne related....

We saw from OoG that Jayne impresses Mal w/ his ability to track two crafty war vets down, but after that, what does Jayne ever do that even hints at some extraordinary skill or ability ???

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Originally posted by boris:
I don't see Jayne as complex. I see him as having Aspergic tendencies...incredibly smart but essentially driven by primal considerations which may mask his intelligence...He's completely baffled by social conventions, but still craves that connection to others, and never quite gets it right...and to his credit generally doesn't let that phase him...also to his credit he willingly learns from those around him, who in their own way break things down into little chunks so he can understand them. This ultimately leads to him actually caring about the rest of the crew, and understanding how to show that...he still has a long way to go, but he's getting there.

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Originally posted by AgentRouka:

In "War Stories" he analyses the scene of Mal and Wash's abduction, which helps them reach the conclusion that Niska nabbed them.

He is quite useful in getting them out in that same episode, too.

While he doesn't quite do it as Mal wished, Jayne is also not completely bad at intimidating Dobson in the pilot episode.

He is extremely useful in "Heart of Gold".

In the movie, he does an incredible job defending the crew from the Reavers (much as I hate the movie otherwise, Jayne has some amazing moments there).

I'm sure there is more.

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Originally posted by GWEK:
Can't speak to the specifics of "Jayne," but I'm pretty sure Joss gave the big strong guy a girl's name because of the irony. He already used the same basic trick in "Alien: Resurrection," with one of the mercenary crew that serves as sort of the "rough draft" of our Big Damn Heroes (I think that guy's name is Carol, but it's been a while since I've seen the movie).

Joss has a habit of using "ironic" names: Buffy (for the mighty slayer) and Spike (why not just call him "Stake"?) also come to mind.

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Oh, the man's an imposing figure, I'll give you that. And knows his weapons and how to use them. But it was Jayne's ability to track Serenity down which caught Mal's attention. Either that, or Mal was simply trying to stall for time and find , yet another way out, of a dead end situation.

i think Mal figured Jayne wasn't a complete buffoon, like his 2 henchmen were. Crook though he was, Mal saw he could get out of a jam by reasoning w/ Jayne and keeping from giving up the loot the other guys were after.

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Cobb to me accounted for his pricky nature, deriving from Ty Cobb, I reckoned.

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