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Favorite non-verbal character moments

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Monday, April 12, 2004 1:19 AM

MACBAKER


Bar none, my favorite non-verbal moment is from the pilot "Serenity", when Kaylee takes a bite of a strawberry. It seems to be somewhere between sex and a religious moment for her, and her expressions make it one of the most sensual non-sex moments on Firefly.

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:19 AM

MAOLIOSA


Sort of surprised I didn't read this one yet.

Safe - How Zoe and Mal looked when the Alliance officer finished checking Book's Ident card and gave the order for him to be taken to the infirmary.

Maol Iosa

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:13 AM

ALTA


Two From Shindig
-Kaylee's face when Mal makes the "sheep on it's hind legs" remark.
-Kaylee in the engine room after Mal tells her he's got work for her, you know,that face you did after your mom/dad/whoever was done lecturing you.



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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:13 AM

ALTA


Two From Shindig
-Kaylee's face when Mal makes the "sheep on it's hind legs" remark.
-Kaylee in the engine room after Mal tells her he's got work for her, you know,that face you did after your mom/dad/whoever was done lecturing you.
Sorry about the double post, gorram computer!


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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 8:11 AM

HEB


I love Simon's expressions in the deleted scene on the DVD from Our Mrs Reynolds, when River says that she and Simon should get married and when she says she is in the family way. His expressions of confusion and 'are you insane?' looks are fantastic.

Also I love in Serenity Mal's expression when he orders Jayne to leave the table when he has insulted Kaylee. He's not messing anymore.

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:50 PM

KARENKAY99


i thought of another. don't think it was mentioned yet.

i OOG, after the shuttles leave, mal walks through serenity closing the doors behind him, opens up a blanket, wraps it around him, sits and ...

chokes me up everytime.

"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 10:19 AM

TOMTBA2004


i would have to say .. Jaynestown When Janye gets ready to pull of the tape then when he actually does it he makes the little whimper sound. that was High- larious

"please, people need peace"

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 1:41 PM

DROKKA


One of my favourites that I didn't see mention (I apologize if I'm wrong) is near the end of War Stories, when Mal is going up the stairs and grabs Kaylee's hand affectionately.

Also, Jayne's face after Zoƫ (with gun aimedin his direction) tells him to tie up Dobson.

d~

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 2:59 PM

HARDWARE


In OMR when Mal says about Saffron; "There's one thing we both have in common. We're the only two on this boat that don't think our being married is funny." And the camera pauses on Inara and her face is so expressionless and rigid that you know she is just seething inside.

At the end of OMR when Mal confronts Inara about how she "hit her head" Inara looks like she is about six years old. After Mal says what he thinks happens she has a stunned expression that is just priceless.

Anytime Simon is working on someone in the sickbay. Jayne is right outside or standing nearby. In Serenity he's looking through the window. In OOG he's standing by the door when Simon is working on Zoe and later when Mal is on the table he's right outside the door. And in Safe when Zoe and Mal are working on Book he has faded to the background. It is as if he is saying that he's strong, mean and dangerous, but when it comes to healing he's helpless.

At the end of Shindig when Kaylee walks back through Serenity and goes into her room to sit and look at her party dress, what a great character moment.

So sue me if I can't think of only ONE moment that I love.




The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

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Sunday, May 2, 2004 1:44 PM

ANKHAGOGO


Ok, I just thought of another one.

In Out of Gas, when Mal and Wash are having the whole "make the signal go farther" arguement: Wash says something to the effect of "that would just screw up their navigation. They'd have to stop and dig the signal out.." or whatever, and you can see Mal about to burst a blood vessel. He's just got this look on his face like "I'm not gonna hit him. I'm not gonna hit him." Perhaps I'm twisted, but that just makes me laugh.

"We're just happy to be doin' good works."

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Monday, May 3, 2004 4:41 AM

MER


I agree, Book's look from the corner regarding "Special Hell". I must also add, River on top of ship listening to the conversation in "Objects In Space"

I wish I could think of more. I'll post more if I come across it

(Just Added)
Jayne drugged on the ground. I wish I could include him snatching the air (lights) but he was talking :(
Simon: Hugging River when she was up to be burned.

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Thursday, May 6, 2004 5:30 PM

ALIENZOOKEEPER


Every time i watch that scene, i see Zoe looking, making sure Jayne is going to his bunk, watching Mal's back, because that's what she does.

Mal doesn't look to see if he's doing what he's told him to do, because of course he is, the captain told him too...

vince

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Thursday, May 6, 2004 10:19 PM

JUMPY


When River and Simon are clinging to the spaceship: River is in awe and happiness and Simon's about to piss his pants! hehe

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You can't take the sky from me...

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Friday, May 7, 2004 1:39 AM

JUMPY


Oh and also in Objects in Space where Simon is fighting Jubal, and Jayne wakes up, pulls back the sheet over all his guns...and then puts the sheet on himself and goes back to sleep!

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You can't take the sky from me...

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Friday, May 7, 2004 8:42 AM

SHAMBLEAU


Here's a few that have never been mentioned, i think.

Book performing some kind of ritual over the dead robbers at the beginning of OMR. Everybody else is ignoring them, and celebrating with a dance. Not only does it show that he's a genuinely religious man, it ties in with OIS. Book has probably done something awful, as River's vision shows, and he's sought redemption for it. "There but for the grace of God..." is implied in his actions.

In Serenity, after Mal shoots Dobson, he calls for Jayne, who runs up with a wolfish grin on his face. Jayne's gotten what he wanted - a dead Fed. The other instructive reaction to what happens is Zoe's. She just stares impassively for a second and then heads over to the intercom to tell Wash they're all aboard. She'd been against killing Dobson. She'd thought it was stupid and would bring the Feds down on them. Once, Mal did it, she accepts it matter-of-factly and moves on.

What's also illuminating about Zoe is her non-committal reaction during the argument about whether or not Mal had the right to space River and Simon. Wash appealed to her and said "We're going to talk about this, right?" She just stared at him. In one of the unaired scenes on the DVD, Simon asked her what she would do if Mal asked her to kill him. She said, calmly, she would do it. I think it was artistically far more interesting to make that point with just a glance, as they ended up doing.

When Inara and Simon are talking on the ramp above the crew playing basketball in Bushwacked, they'd been talking about how Simon felt guilty that his actions had led to their being fugitives. Check out Simon's reaction to Inara saying "We're all running from something, I suppose." He thinks there's something odd about that statement, and I think it's supposed to be a clue to Inara's secret.

Simon's pleasure in watching River dancing in Safe is touching and revealing at the same time. There's some wonder in his look, because she seems so normal and happy.

Inara's look of "Well? I'm waiting!" when she's asking Mal what the last cargo they carried ( the bobble-head dolls) is just cute as hell.

shambleau

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 6:51 PM

HOWDYROCKERBABY1


In Serenity, the Punch-drunk-love look that Mal gets on his face when he places his hand on Inara's shoulder and tells her she needs to go to save herself from the Reavers.

The look on Simon's face when River says that she is going to go with Jubal Early in Objects in Space

The shot of River listening in on everyone talking about her in Objects in Space

and about a bajillion others that i can't think of right now

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 8:28 AM

BENDIS


The end of the message when they bring out the coffin to present to the parents and they all stand around with that awesome music in the background. Very moving.

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"We're not gonna die. We can't die, Bendis.
You know why? Because we are so very pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die. Huh? Look at that chiseled jaw."

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 8:52 AM

PURPLEBELLY


The moment in Serenity when Jayne puts a single round in his gun and you know that one's for him

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 9:53 AM

HOAGIE


Two moments, both from Jayne and both in Serenity.

the first is when Mal and Jayne are interrogating the fed about how much information he sent out in the transmission before Wash cut it off. Mal says to Jayne "Just scare him." and Jayne responds "Pain is scary." and Mal shakes his head and walks out. there is this flicker across Jayne's face as he has to quickly recalculate his entire interrogation strategy from the ground up.

the second moment is when Kaylee is sitting on the floor in the engine room and is directing Jayne and Book on how to get the right things done. Jayne opens a panel to reveal a morass of wires and tubes and Kaylee says "Ok, it's very simple." the disgusted/confused/panicked look Jayne gives is priceless.

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Friday, May 21, 2004 7:52 AM

INSIGHT SPINNER


Quote:

Originally posted by hpuffin:
Kaylee's smile after she says "That's my good girl." (Has to be the prettiest smile I've ever seen.)

River dancing (a jig?) in Safe.



Simon watching River dance.

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Friday, May 21, 2004 8:02 AM

INSIGHT SPINNER


It's from OMR, but I'll cite it from opening credits: Wash holding Zoe as they watch the dancing. Shiny!

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Friday, May 21, 2004 8:54 AM

YORKY


I liked the one in Trash, where Jayne thinks Saffron has picked a hole in Kaylee's plan, and then realises she hasn't. Another one in Trash with Jayne again, when Jayne repeats Saffron's question, then looks around for approvement for asking such an intelligent question.

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Friday, May 21, 2004 9:38 AM

OOG


Many of my favorites have been meantioned, there are so many good ones.

My fav -
Trash: Mal, in all his nekkid glory, laces his hands together behind his head and just stands on the platform, blissed.

Loni

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Friday, May 21, 2004 10:38 AM

EST120


I know it comes right after a spoken line, but I absolutely LOVE the look on River's face in Trash right after she says "Jayne is a girl's name". I laugh EVERY time I see her face in that episode. It is priceless.

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Friday, May 21, 2004 10:40 AM

EST120


does he really put only one round in the his gun?! i NEVER noticed that! i always just assumed that he was getting his guns ready to fight. i never thought he was considering suicide! that is unreal! thanks for pointing that out!

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Friday, May 21, 2004 11:44 AM

PURPLEBELLY


Quote:

Originally posted by est120:
i always just assumed that he was getting his guns ready to fight. i never thought he was considering suicide!



I thought that the reason that scene is preceded by Inara with a syringe in a tasteful case is to prepare and underline the suicide theme.

But then, I've ascribed the alternative theories about Inara's syringe to overactive imagination in the fan-base, and chain-pulling by those tired of fans demanding excessive explanation - so what do I know?

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Friday, May 21, 2004 1:21 PM

GABRIEL


It's got to be River floating down from Early's ship in OiS, smiling. That suit is way too big for her, kind of like Willow in the Eskimo costume.



RIVER
Little soul, big world. Eat, sleep,
and eat... Many souls.
...They weren't cows inside. They were
waiting to be, but they forgot. Now
they see the sky and they remember
what they are.

MAL
Is it bad that what she said made perfect
sense to me?

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Friday, May 21, 2004 2:14 PM

EST120


Quote:

Originally posted by PurpleBelly:
But then, I've ascribed the alternative theories about Inara's syringe to overactive imagination in the fan-base, and chain-pulling by those tired of fans demanding excessive explanation - so what do I know?



obviously more than me! i NEVER noticed that before! i guess it fits, though. jayne is not afraid of any human but he sure is afraid of the reavers. it is kind of like that native american guy in predator. remember that line?
"you aint afraid of no man."
"somethings after us, and it aint no man."
creepy!

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Friday, May 21, 2004 4:12 PM

BLACKSHAMROCK5


Don't know if this one has been mentioned sorry if it has. In Serenity when Kaylee is trying to tell Jayne what to do and she says,"Now this should be real easy", Jayne opens the box and sees all of these wires and looks at Kaylee like shes crazy. Priceless

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Friday, May 21, 2004 6:05 PM

SIOUX


It's not a big moment, but in Trash, I love it when YoSaffBridge's suitcase come flying off of Monty's ship and lands at her feet.

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Friday, May 21, 2004 8:08 PM

ELWOODMOM


For me, I love the scene when Jayne and Kaylee see Inara's companion, the counselor, the female counselor! And the smile on Jaynes face after Inara walks her counselor back to her shuttle after the visit. Inara's rolling of the eyes is priceless!

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Friday, May 21, 2004 11:55 PM

DRAKON


For me, its from "Out of Gas". Mal's first look at Serenity, years earlier, deserted, alone, possibly about to be scraped for parts, while the used starship salesman drones on and on, and Mal ain't hearing a word.

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

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Friday, May 21, 2004 11:58 PM

PURPLEBELLY


Quote:

Originally posted by est120:
jayne is not afraid of any human but he sure is afraid of the reavers.



Sorry est120, I'm not trying to pick a fight, honestly. But my take is that, like all bullies Jayne is afraid of everyone, and compensates by blustering at those who are physically smaller. Jayne thinks he can push Badger around - a mistake when he's got backup. Jayne thinks he can push Simon around - a mistake when you are dependent on his skills. Simon is the person who has the courage to confront anyone, Mal, Book, Jayne, Early.

There is a whole other thread about Simon helping Jayne strengthen his character while Jayne helps Simon tone those abs

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Saturday, May 22, 2004 12:24 AM

WEERWOLF


Quote:

Originally posted by est120:
Quote:

Originally posted by PurpleBelly:
But then, I've ascribed the alternative theories about Inara's syringe to overactive imagination in the fan-base, and chain-pulling by those tired of fans demanding excessive explanation - so what do I know?




obviously more than me! i NEVER noticed that before! i guess it fits, though. jayne is not afraid of any human but he sure is afraid of the reavers. it is kind of like that native american guy in predator. remember that line?
"you aint afraid of no man."
"somethings after us, and it aint no man."
creepy!



His hand is shaking as he puts in the cartridge.

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"Damn it Mal... I forgot my line!"

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Saturday, May 22, 2004 1:49 AM

EST120


i know you are not picking a fight. i never thought about it that way, though. it makes sense, that is for sure. :) i guess we need to see a situation where jayne is confronted by someone bigger and stronger than him. actually, now that i think about it, the only person that i have seen that seems to intimidate jayne is mal! as for simon, he seems pretty buff already! jayne certainly is helping book bulk up, though!

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Saturday, May 22, 2004 8:18 AM

OBJECTIVEASSESSMENT


Simon's look in Out of Gas as he says "It was my birthday". He just gives over the feeling of despair that the whole crew are feeling.

"When you can't run...you crawl...and when you can't crawl...when you can't do that..."
"Find someone to carry you"

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Saturday, May 22, 2004 10:27 AM

EST120


i just thought of a good one. in serenity when simon is explaning about river, he starts to go off on a tangent and jayne gets up out of his chair and goes to get more coffee. i love that. he is so bored!

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Monday, May 24, 2004 1:38 PM

LUPINADDAMS


Quote:

Originally posted by MacBaker:
Bar none, my favorite non-verbal moment is from the pilot "Serenity", when Kaylee takes a bite of a strawberry. It seems to be somewhere between sex and a religious moment for her, and her expressions make it one of the most sensual non-sex moments on Firefly.



That's the winner for me - reminds me of how my wife eats mangos...

Though Crow through the engine is a close second for other reasons.

"You are what you do."
Andrew Vacchs

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Tuesday, May 25, 2004 4:42 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Quote:

Originally posted by Drakon:
For me, its from "Out of Gas". Mal's first look at Serenity, years earlier, deserted, alone, possibly about to be scraped for parts, while the used starship salesman drones on and on, and Mal ain't hearing a word.

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"



Excellent example, and one of my favorites.

There are so many moments in the show where facial expressions convey more than mere word could for that particular moment.

Another example, and one I am surprised has not been mentioned, is when Mal looks up over the edge of his foxhole in "Serenity" and see the Alliance ships descending, firing their weapons on the battlefield. There is this look of complete disbelief, loss, and shock that conveys his feelings at the sight at that moment.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."


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Tuesday, May 25, 2004 1:21 PM

JK


That's my personal favourite, and the one I immediately thought of when I saw this thread: Mal looking over the trench as Serenity Valley becomes Alliance-held territory. It's so tragically beautiful; you can see in his eyes that the man he was has been completely stripped away to leave the shell that we all know and love. The music, too, and the soldier getting shot beside him. Oh, I could go on about it all day.

Not the funniest of moments, but it's the one that gets me the most out of all of them.

JK

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Tuesday, June 8, 2004 11:24 PM

MANTICHORUS


Not strictly non-verbal, but... I like the look on Mal's face whenever he says 'Huh.' (Serenity, finding River. War Stories, Inara and Councilor going off together.)
Wash also gives some good faces...
Bushwacked- When Zoe tells him "Not now dear."
War Stories- The look he gives Zoe while Mal's talkin' about the middlemen of the 'verse.
Trash- When Mal boards at the end. Wash is struggling not to laugh his @$$ off.

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"BADGER: You think you're better than other people.
MAL: Just the ones I'm better than."
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"MAL: Gotta say, doctor, your talent for alienatin' folk is near miraculous.
SIMON: Yes, I'm very proud."

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 12:00 AM

CHRISTOPHERROBIN


Oh god there are so many. I'm going to have to watch the entire series all over again (twist my arm) just to find all my favorites.
Off the top of my head though has got to be the scene with Kaylee and the strawberry.......OHHHHH MAN did i wish parts of me were a strawberry at that moment. (Hears comment from off screen ) Wha... she bit it in half... uuuuuhn cancel that last transmission

Mal: "Well lady, I must say...you're my kinda stupid."

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 12:02 AM

PURPLEBELLY


Whenever Zoe looks at Jayne; no-one hates a sniper like a grunt.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 12:34 AM

11THHOUR


So many great moments have been mentioned. Great to revisit them.

I laughed out loud at this one:

War Stories: During Jayne's and Book's workout, Jayne was (again) leering lustfully as Inara and the counselor affectionately exchanged their good-byes. Then, just as Jayne is excusing himself (again) for some "bunk" time, Zoe strides in and says, "Jayne... grab your weapon!"

The wry grin Book flashed in bemused response to the ironic timing of Zoe's request was hi-sterical!

11thHour

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 7:35 AM

EVILTOBZ


just about any time we get a close up of inara. theres something about her eyes and smile that just devastates me.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 8:04 AM

SHINYSEVEN


In "Serenity," when the group of people ROFL when Mal tells them what he's just done to Simon--because Zoe is there, and it's the first episode (for DVD viewers!) you know right away that she isn't going to be Ms. Sensitive New Age Gal.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2004 5:31 PM

ALTA


Thought of another one- Zoe & Wash's stammerings over Mal's nekkidness at the end of Trash, especialy Wash.

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There's no place I can be
Since I found Serenity

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Friday, June 11, 2004 4:02 AM

MANTICHORUS


The Message:
-The look on Zoe's face when Wash is talkin' to the cow fetus: half-amused, half-annoyed, half-resigned, half-worried, and half-"When are you going to grow up, dear?"
Wait... that makes five halves...


-On Kaylee's face when Simon asks "Did we get something fun?" Priceless.

-------------------------------------------
"BADGER: You think you're better than other people.
MAL: Just the ones I'm better than."
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"MAL: Gotta say, doctor, your talent for alienatin' folk is near miraculous.
SIMON: Yes, I'm very proud."

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Wednesday, June 16, 2004 12:38 PM

NEDWARD


(Bump!)

War Stories: Jayne, Zoe, and Wash in perfect unison, finishing the thing the captain doesn't need to do for himself.

That moment and about a hundred others, anyhow.

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Is Joss Whedon finished as a film maker, is his future destiny to be some muttering version of Brigitte Bardot, Jane Fonda, Sean Penn, Charlie Sheen, Danny Glover?
Sun, November 24, 2024 06:15 - 13 posts
Bad writers go on strike, late night talk is doomed
Fri, November 22, 2024 13:49 - 22 posts
Here's how it was.....Do you remember & even mourn the humble beginnings?
Mon, November 18, 2024 09:38 - 13 posts
Where are the Extraterrestrial Civilizations
Sat, November 16, 2024 20:08 - 54 posts
Serenity Rescued by Disney!
Fri, November 15, 2024 00:31 - 5 posts
What is your favourite historical or war film/television show???
Fri, November 8, 2024 07:18 - 37 posts
When did you join poll?
Tue, November 5, 2024 04:28 - 69 posts
Joss was right... Mandarin is the language of the future...
Mon, November 4, 2024 09:19 - 34 posts
Best movie that only a few people know about
Mon, November 4, 2024 07:14 - 118 posts
Halloween
Sun, November 3, 2024 15:21 - 43 posts
Teri Garr, the offbeat comic actor of 'Young Frankenstein' has died
Thu, October 31, 2024 20:20 - 5 posts
Poetry in song
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