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HELL'S KITTEN
Some people juggle geese. Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 19:46






There are far too many bad endings I can think of, mainly cuz I'm a pessimist. Here are my top two for now...

1. Mal stands over Jayne's dead body and says "Yep." (beat) "That was an interesting day...."

2. The End

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You know, that actually ain't half bad as a plot device... New mercenary needed of course (Jayne's twin brother, Suzy, perhaps), but I'd love to see the story of how Jayne got on the wrong side of Mal and then lost the fight.

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"Damn it Mal... I forgot my line!"

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Originally posted by Peace:

As for Lucas-- how could such a visionary go so badly wrong? It stopped caring about SW sometime ago-- except that I'm hoarding my tapes of the first three films (Episodes 4-6, for those who insist on numerating them in sequence). Maybe there is such a thing as too much fame....

Oh, bugger! Now I have to wait for someone to wake up!

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Originally posted by Chronos:
The worst ending I can imagine...

The movie is everything we hoped for, it's epic, revealing, action packed, romances go the way we want, pasts are revealed (Mal, Inara, Book), the jokes bring tears to our eyes... Basicaly our wildest and most secret dream come true. The movie lasts for 3+ hours and at the end there's the fade to black and the sign that says: "for Joss, 1964-2004".

Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't coming back

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Originally posted by Chronos:
The worst ending I can imagine...

The movie is everything we hoped for, it's epic, revealing, action packed, romances go the way we want, pasts are revealed (Mal, Inara, Book), the jokes bring tears to our eyes... Basicaly our wildest and most secret dream come true. The movie lasts for 3+ hours and at the end there's the fade to black and the sign that says: "for Joss, 1964-2004".

Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't coming back

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Originally posted by Skydance:
Jayne stands over Mal's dead body and says "Yep." (beat) "That was an interesting day...."

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Originally posted by terribletink:
Actually, I think the worst possible ending for the movie would be to wrap up all the loose ends from the show. After all, I think we all hope that the movie doesn't end this story....I know I'm hoping for more movies or a return to TV. (I'd actually love to see the show go to cable but that's a discussion for another thread.) So the movie can't reveal all the mysteries or wrap up all the plot lines.

So here are some things I would *not* like to see happen by the end of the movie:

-- River's full potential revealed. I'm sure the movie will focus on her a lot and that's fine, but I still think that the ongoing suspense of what she is *really* capable of after all the experimentation is too sweet to let go of(remember her telling Kaylee no power in the 'verse could stop her? -- what exactly does that mean?)

-- Jayne's final betrayal (or redemption for that matter). This is another on-going plot line that it would be a shame to derail. I mean, you get the feeling that if the show hadn't been cancelled that Jayne was going to find his conscience at some point, but then again, it could go the other way too and he could be the entire crew's undoing. Once you send him too far in either direction, good or bad, the character loses that suspense that makes him one of my favorite parts of the show. Think about it -- would it be as interesting if you really knew where everything stood with Jayne?

-- Too many romances. This is another thing I would rather see drag out *beyond* the movie. If they pair off Mal & Inara and Simon & Kaylee in the movie (don't think the Jayne & River pairing will make it outside the fan web sites ), then any future movies or TV will lose all that tension.

I know that they have to touch on all of these things in the movie because the romance, the Jayne factor, and River's state of mind are all such integral plot lines. But I guess I just worry that if *everything* is wrapped up in the movie that it will just feel like the whole story is over. And that, to me, would be the worst thing of all.

Off my soap box now....sorry for the small essay.




Morbid and creepifyin' I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like.

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Actually, I think the worst possible ending for the movie would be to wrap up all the loose ends from the show.

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Joss wrote a wrapping up script where main characters died and everything was resolved, but then scrapped it and went for an open script leading into a new TV series.

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EW:About Serenity: There were rumors you were asked to make some changes to your screenplay to accommodate Universal's vision for franchising. True?

JW: Absolute nonsense. You're seeing alot of movies that are built to be a springboard for a franchise. Like Underworld. Well, I'm saying maybe you should take a long hard look at your f---ing movie before you worry about your franchise. Obviously, Universal does see this as a potential franchise-springboard marketing vehicle. But none of that matters unless I make a movie that not only people who loved Firefly will respect, but people who never heard of it can walk in and have a wonderful time.

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That rumor is not true. Fillion, and I think other cast members have said a TV series revival is not in the cards. And Joss also responded in his EW weekly interview:


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Whilst, yes, it is unlikely seeing as how Universal hold the rights to Firefly stuff for something like 5 years after the film, if Serenity is a success then a further two films are on the cards. So sayeth Joss, at least.

Jayne: "Know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I beat you with till you understand who's in command."

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Why is everyone here so gungho about reviving the series? Accept that it's over. I think the worst possible ending would be for it to have no ending. Open-ended? Fuck that. I won't stuff payed off. Because a TV series revival ain't gonna happen.

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Why is everyone here so gungho about reviving the series? Accept that it's over. I think the worst possible ending would be for it to have no ending. Open-ended? Fuck that. I won't stuff payed off. Because a TV series revival ain't gonna happen.

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Settle down Joe. Your hard-bitten, voice of reason crap has come and gone from this board many times, most of the time telling us how silly we were to hope for more Firefly. 'Just get over it' they'd say, 'accept it'. Yeah, whatever.

If we'd listened to that advice there's a very good chance it would be over, no movie, nothing. So, we'll keep hoping for a series, we'll keep asking that the story remain open-ended, and you'll just have to accept that. Dong Ma?



SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
If we'd listened to that advice there's a very good chance it would be over, no movie, nothing. So, we'll keep hoping for a series, we'll keep asking that the story remain open-ended, and you'll just have to accept that. Dong Ma?

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Originally posted by objectiveassessment:
Hear, hear!
And I agree that the worst ending would be all the loose ends wrapped up. I want as much Firefly as possible. Hopefully 7 good seasons after all three movies. That'd be nice.

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Originally posted by objectiveassessment:
Hear, hear!
And I agree that the worst ending would be all the loose ends wrapped up. I want as much Firefly as possible. Hopefully 7 good seasons after all three movies. That'd be nice.

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A trilogy of movies would be a dream come true. Thing is, after that there would be nowhere for a tv series to go. Perhaps a spin-off, but there's no way we're going to see the return of "Firefly" as we knew it.

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Filming has completed when Universal gets jittery and brings in Jerry Bruckheimer and Michael Bay to retool it for a more mass market appeal.

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Originally posted by rangrbob:
The worst ending for the movie that I can think of is...

Fox thanking us for our years of loyalty and comitment.

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