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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
I hope Joss doesn't make a new series again until he does the following two things, get rid of half the crew, there's too many. The characters I see as being deleted are the couple, the priest and the prostitute.... These character are either duplicated elsewhere or unneccessary. The other thing is to introduce alien life forms, we can't be the only ones in space....

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SpaceGeneral wrote:
Monday, May 24, 2004 10:36

Am I missing something, please do tell....

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Oh dear, Oh dear, Oh dear, weak responses. I find it unbelieveable a television series set in space and having no aliens. If you look at the success of other sci-fi's ( Farscape, Star Wars, Star Trek ) and then this, you will why they are successful and this isn't. If you're going to do a sci-fi based on a western premise without aliens, what's the point ? Am I missing something, please do tell.... I have to admit to watching just half the series and that was enough. I do think there are too many characters, some should be occassionals rather than regulars... Why do you need the couple, priest and the prosistute ? If you're going to answer weakly ( e.g. because they're great ) then don't answer at all....

It's arrogant to believe we are the only inhabitents of the Universe....

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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
Oh dear, Oh dear, Oh dear, weak responses. I find it unbelieveable a television series set in space and having no aliens. If you look at the success of other sci-fi's ( Farscape, Star Wars, Star Trek ) and then this, you will why they are successful and this isn't. If you're going to do a sci-fi based on a western premise without aliens, what's the point ? Am I missing something, please do tell.... I have to admit to watching just half the series and that was enough. I do think there are too many characters, some should be occassionals rather than regulars... Why do you need the couple, priest and the prosistute ? If you're going to answer weakly ( e.g. because they're great ) then don't answer at all....

It's arrogant to believe we are the only inhabitents of the Universe....

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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
If you're going to do a sci-fi based on a western premise without aliens, what's the point ? B]

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It's arrogant to believe we are the only inhabitents of the Universe....

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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:

get rid of half the crew
introduce alien life forms

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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
Oh dear, Oh dear, Oh dear, weak responses.

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I find it unbelieveable a television series set in space and having no aliens.

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Am I missing something, please do tell.... It's arrogant to believe we are the only inhabitents of the Universe....

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I find it unbelieveable a television series set in space and having no aliens.

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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
How many planets exist in the Firefly Universe, surely Earth is not the only one that could sustain life on its own merit ?

It's arrogant to believe we are the only inhabitents of the Universe....

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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
How many planets exist in the Firefly Universe, surely Earth is not the only one that could sustain life on its own merit ?

It's arrogant to believe we are the only inhabitents of the Universe....

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Originally posted by FireflyFriend:
I really love this show, but I think Space General has made some good points. Besides I think the Reevers will turn out to be alieans. And its true that some people were confused by so many characters. Friends was a big success and it only had five regular characters. the other were occasional as Space general suggested.
There's no point in being mean just because people see ways to improve the show.

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Originally posted by FireflyFriend:
I really love this show, but I think Space General has made some good points.

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And its true that some people were confused by so many characters. Friends was a big success and it only had five regular characters. the other were occasional as Space general suggested.

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There's no point in being mean just because people see ways to improve the show.

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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
I hope Joss doesn't make a new series again until he does the following two things, get rid of half the crew, there's too many. The characters I see as being deleted are the couple, the priest and the prostitute.... These character are either duplicated elsewhere or unneccessary. The other thing is to introduce alien life forms, we can't be the only ones in space....

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(Yes, children, there was science fiction that did not originate on TV...)

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Originally posted by FireflyFriend:
I really love this show, but I think Space General has made some good points. Besides I think the Reevers will turn out to be alieans. And its true that some people were confused by so many characters. Friends was a big success and it only had five regular characters. the other were occasional as Space general suggested.
There's no point in being mean just because people see ways to improve the show.

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Originally posted by FireflyFriend:
I really love this show, but I think Space General has made some good points. Besides I think the Reevers will turn out to be alieans. And its true that some people were confused by so many characters. Friends was a big success and it only had five regular characters. the other were occasional as Space general suggested.
There's no point in being mean just because people see ways to improve the show.

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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
I hope Joss doesn't make a new series again until he does the following two things, get rid of half the crew, there's too many. The characters I see as being deleted are the couple, the priest and the prostitute.... These character are either duplicated elsewhere or unneccessary. The other thing is to introduce alien life forms, we can't be the only ones in space....

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Originally posted by Zophiel:
People, people, people.

Do *not* feed the trolls.

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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
When I said there should be aliens in the series, I wasn't referring to intelligent lifeform in the same vein as Vulcans, Klingons, Delvians, Hynerians or the Hutt. I'd be quite happy if the aliens was something they herded like cattle in the cowboy era. I wonder how successful it would've been if aliens were involved. As it is based on the early part of the the US life, I wonder who the equivalent of the Native Americans are supposed to be. If you're going to be base it on a past, you might as well base it on the whole era...

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Is the film going to be a cinematic version or just an extended episode on Sci-Fi?

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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
....As it is based on the early part of the the US life, I wonder who the equivalent of the Native Americans are supposed to be. If you're going to be base it on a past, you might as well base it on the whole era...

...As the series is based on the past, are the Reevers also based on a past group ?

The weak responses I referred to related to lack of argument as seen in the early replies.

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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
When I said there should be aliens in the series, I wasn't referring to intelligent lifeform in the same vein as Vulcans, Klingons, Delvians, Hynerians or the Hutt. I'd be quite happy if the aliens was something they herded like cattle in the cowboy era.

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I wonder how successful it would've been if aliens were involved.

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As it is based on the early part of the the US life, I wonder who the equivalent of the Native Americans are supposed to be. If you're going to be base it on a past, you might as well base it on the whole era...

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Is the film going to be a cinematic version or just an extended episode on Sci-Fi ?

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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
When I said there should be aliens in the series, I wasn't referring to intelligent lifeform in the same vein as Vulcans, Klingons, Delvians, Hynerians or the Hutt. I'd be quite happy if the aliens was something they herded like cattle in the cowboy era. I wonder how successful it would've been if aliens were involved. As it is based on the early part of the the US life, I wonder who the equivalent of the Native Americans are supposed to be. If you're going to be base it on a past, you might as well base it on the whole era...

I can understand where people are coming from with respect to the characters. I just would've done it differently, just expressing my view.

Is the film going to be a cinematic version or just an extended episode on Sci-Fi ?

As the series is based on the past, are the Reevers also based on a past group ?

The weak responses I referred to related to lack of argument as seen in the early replies.

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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
I'd be quite happy if the aliens was something they herded like cattle in the cowboy era.

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As the series is based on the past, are the Reevers also based on a past group ?

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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:

Is the film going to be a cinematic version or just an extended episode on Sci-Fi ?

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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:


It's arrogant to believe we are the only inhabitents of the Universe....

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FireflyFriend wrote:
Monday, May 24, 2004 14:19
I really love this show, but I think Space General has made some good points. Besides I think the Reevers will turn out to be alieans. And its true that some people were confused by so many characters. Friends was a big success and it only had five regular characters. the other were occasional as Space general suggested.
There's no point in being mean just because people see ways to improve the show.

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"Aliens, you know, that's something everybody else has done and is doing. It's a great metaphor to play with, but it's not what I'm interested in. I'm really interested in 'you are there,' in 'you are a part of this.' And I think aliens take you out of that. I also need to spend some time away from latex." - Joss Whedon

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Is no one aware that we might not be alone in this solar system ? Is no one aware that there might be live under the Ice sheet on Europa, a moon of either Jupiter or Saturn ?

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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
There's also Mission to Mars, the Red Planet, etc. I'd better clarify what I mean. If the series was set in our solar system then I would accept that there were no aliens. However as I see it, the series is set elsewhere in the Universe and all the planets are bare, I find that hard to accept.

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Is no one aware that we might not be alone in this solar system ? Is no one aware that there might be live under the Ice sheet on Europa, a moon of either Jupiter or Saturn ?

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Originally posted by Absalon:

We're alone, deal with it. Even if there are aliens, they aint comin and they aint bringin Elvis back.

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Originally posted by SpaceGeneral:
There's also Mission to Mars, the Red Planet, etc. I'd better clarify what I mean. If the series was set in our solar system then I would accept that there were no aliens. However as I see it, the series is set elsewhere in the Universe and all the planets are bare, I find that hard to accept.

Is no one aware that we might not be alone in this solar system ? Is no one aware that there might be live under the Ice sheet on Europa, a moon of either Jupiter or Saturn ?

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