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Question about the planet Miranda
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 6:01 PM
NIHONNIIRUGAIJIN
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 6:13 PM
PHOENIXROSE
You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:49 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by nihonniirugaijin: I guess I didn’t notice these things the first time through because I was nicely toasted by the time I reached the second half. There were several things that puzzled me, but the big one is below. I would be interested to get responses that might point out the errors of my thinking. I didn’t buy the fact that the entire population of Miranda, 30 million people, could die out or become Reavors, and just 12 years later absolutely no one would remember that either they or the planet Miranda had even existed. I know that the Alliance deleted all information about Miranda from the databases, but didn’t any of those people on Miranda have relatives on other planets who would remember them? This scenario would be like a country with a population of around 30 million people (say Canada or Iraq) disappearing off the face of the Earth and 12 years later no one would remember that Canada or Iraq had ever existed.
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:04 PM
MRSUNIVERSE832
Quote:Originally posted by jewelstaitefan: Quote:Originally posted by nihonniirugaijin: I guess I didn’t notice these things the first time through because I was nicely toasted by the time I reached the second half. There were several things that puzzled me, but the big one is below. I would be interested to get responses that might point out the errors of my thinking. I didn’t buy the fact that the entire population of Miranda, 30 million people, could die out or become Reavors, and just 12 years later absolutely no one would remember that either they or the planet Miranda had even existed. I know that the Alliance deleted all information about Miranda from the databases, but didn’t any of those people on Miranda have relatives on other planets who would remember them? This scenario would be like a country with a population of around 30 million people (say Canada or Iraq) disappearing off the face of the Earth and 12 years later no one would remember that Canada or Iraq had ever existed. A lot to wade through in this thread. I do not find the premise implausible, at least in the points mentioned by the original post and the direct replies to it. Kaylee recalled reqeusts for "workers" IIRC. The upper crust folk were from another strata that hers, and were dealt with differently - become landowners, businessowners, cushy jobs, big money, somesuch. These would be the Alliance toadies, from the core planets, and all their friends and relatives would meekly settle down and swallow whatever story the Alliance told them - the government would never lie, right? Look how easily and willingly the Tams wouldn't even believe their own offspring when the Alliance could spread platitudes. The problems the alliance might have to worry about were the outer world people, watching like hawks with wary and disbelieving eyes. Best way to not only clearly identify these troublemakers, but also rid the verse of them? Why, start a War For Domination of course!!! The untold multitudes of wary and watchful killed in the War likely included those most likely to object to the stories of Miranda dying. Most who avoided the War were the same types who won't care what stories the Alliance tells. Thus it is very reasonable that the first person to find out the truth about Miranda AND do something about it is Mal, who fought the War on the only Just side, and lost everything in it.
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:48 PM
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 9:31 PM
AGENTROUKA
Quote:Originally posted by nihonniirugaijin: As for the person who thinks questioning the plausibility of arguments is something a three year old would do, I just have to say that if three years olds are routinely questioning your reasoning perhaps you should re-evaluate your positions.
Sunday, December 28, 2008 2:29 PM
ASARIAN
Quote:Originally posted by AgentRouka: It was an experiment, obviously. They used the settlers for guinea pigs. Mind, I think it's a big plot hole, as they would certainly have been intelligent enough to test the PAX on smaller groups before. Maybe it was a dosage issue they didn't plan for.
Sunday, December 28, 2008 2:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by nihonniirugaijin: To address one point made here, the Pax was not only extremely toxic (99.9% death rate, a tenth of a percent of those exposed being Reaverized)
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