Kaylee's appeal by insight spinner

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Kaylee's appeal

POSTED BY: INSIGHT SPINNER
UPDATED: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 13:09
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Saturday, May 22, 2004 10:41 AM

Zoid,

I appreciate that you put so much sentiment into your reply. Your insight is incredibly helpful to me. It means a great deal to me that you were willing to get personal enough to share your life's experiences with us, and I think I owe you much the same.

This whole discussion is so interesting because I can't help but think of the nature and function of fiction, and more specifically fantasy.

Supposedly we read a book or get so involved in a movie or series because we are looking to escape something... I've never seen it that way. Not at all. Excellent characterization and storytelling allows one to truly discover more about one's own self... what one wants to be, or why one might want to be that way. And to recognize that; to be that way, can be really intimidating, but I suppose I'm in the company of a good many like-minded people. And if not, at least zoid will know what I'm talking about!

My life in a nutshell:
I went to prep school. I was always an idiot at math, but pretty intelligent, even in a school with high standards, as far as literature goes. I suppose that's the only real reason why I didn't get depressed. I mean, it was a prep school. I didn't fit in there. I've always been very...Anne of Green Gables, if you've ever read it. But I stayed there, and got into the college I wanted, and went to college. And college was absolutely amazing, and everything that I wanted to happen, happened.

I ended up majoring in English (which is what I had intended to do before I even knew where I wanted to go) and minoring in music. I joined a co-ed service fraternity and became so loved and protected and well liked. So to go along with it, of course I met a fellow... a very deep and feeling fellow. A musician, actually, a professional one. Same age as me, different school. I was so adored and popular by the time I graduated (it was the opposite of high school, really) that I couldn't even make it from one class to another in the allotted 10 minutes because of all of the people that wanted to talk. And of course now I'm the one that seems in desperate need of guidance... but then I took care of *everyone*. In fact, I would say I've always known exactly who I am. I had to learn early, because I wrote so many songs and poems and stories, and because my parents got divorced when I was thirteen.

The "who I am" isn't a challenge at all. I think it's fun to get lost in learning about who I am, or what I want, because it can be done in such a creative manner. It's the "where I'm going" that freaks me out to no end. I guess the more I see Serenity's crew taking life as it comes, I realize it's not so much their situation as their collective choice. They could do safer things, things that have less meaning and less harm, but they won't do it that way, because that sure as hell isn't living.

But college is over, and I left the musician. I'm not that hard to please--I really enjoy simple, little things that make my face light up. Just a little compliment here and there, is all it takes...and he loved me, and probably intended to marry me, but he couldn't do that, so I had to say goodbye. I have a great job, and the opportunity to work with people my age and still get by on a salary. A lot of the jobs there are being outsourced, though, so I work hard and do what I can to keep my place. I know how fortunate I am to have a job that I enjoy most of the time.

I just can't stop the wearing of the heart on the sleeve, because it seems like I'm set back to life before the musician, and I'm not sure if that's in fact okay for someone my age. I've always been able to associate with 'older' people. And here I am interested in a frat boy in another state who's even prettier than Simon himself, and a hurt, sarcastic hipster who lives near to me. And it's hard to be reserved, because sometimes not saying things feels so dishonest.

But zoid, what you were saying about an emotional connection... it's so odd to be independent again. And I really like it. I'm trying not to rush things, but I make an emotional connection with _everything_, and that's just how I am, I suppose.

And I guess every now and then, it's okay to be passed by... and it's not so bad to pass someone else by, is it?

Lastly, I'd like to thank the others that took thet time to reply, too. It's nice to have people that can write well enough.... to help you know where you're going again.

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Saturday, May 22, 2004 5:03 PM

OUTTATHEWORLD

Gotta say, in my life I've had Inaras, and I've had Kaylees...even, God help me, a couple of Saffrons here and there (some of us are slow learners!) Kaylee's appeal isn't innocent- but it is guilt-free. She's not hung up- so why should her men be?

Saffron is, in my humble opinion, the most head-turning of the bunch. But Kaylee's close enough that I'd hate to have to call it; Saffron just seems a little more mature, and youth is much overrated.

Zoe? She could fight fire with me any time, or I'd love to have her on a tac team; but as a partner in any romantic sense? Nah.

Mal with Kaylee? As an old merc, I'll tell ya- it would violate his whole self-image. Might sublimate it some, and she'd jump into his lap if he stayed still for ten seconds; but he'd never even let the idea enter his head.

...Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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Sunday, May 23, 2004 2:19 PM

HUMBLE

Kaylee is too cute for words. But I think her personality is even more appealing. There's something to be said for just being plain nice! That in itself has as much to do with attraction as good looks. (Which she also has by the way.) When I watch her on the show, I always come away feeling happy and in a good mood.

Just my two pennies.

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Sunday, May 23, 2004 4:24 PM

GREGGALLINSON

After learning that Joss Whedon was a huge fan of the X-Men's Kitty Pryde, I immediately figured out why I was so drawn to the character- I loved Kitty when I was a kid and Kaylee *is* Kitty. They're both auburn-haired young women who aren't drop-dead gorgeous in a traditional sense, but are very sweet and charming. They're both mechanical geniuses, have unrequited crushes on a "teammate" (Kaylee/Simon, Kitty/Colossus), and even their names are similiar (Kitty Pryde/Kaylee Frye). Jewel could play Kitty in X-Men 3 and I wouldn't even bat an eye!

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Monday, May 24, 2004 5:20 AM

BLUESUNWORSHIPPER

To put it in terms both subtle and gross, Inara may be the kind of woman you dream of going to bed with every night, but Kaylee is the kind of woman you dream of waking up next to every morning.

Call me old-fashioned.

- BSW

"Why doesn't it ever go smooth?"

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Monday, May 24, 2004 2:57 PM

THATWEIRDGIRL

Quote:
Originally posted by BadgersHat:
Here it is plain and simple---

Skinny women are ugly.

Curves on a female body are the greatest thing ever invented, and I take my hat off to whoever or Whoever it was invented 'em.

--Jefé The Hat

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"I like smackin 'em"--Jayne

I love curvy women. I wish I were one of them. That said, it's her smile, her eyes, her innocence that we love.

www.thatweirdgirl.com

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Monday, May 24, 2004 7:57 PM

JAGGEDSEVEN

A big part of the attraction to Kaylee is that she can fix stuff and she's not squeamish about workin with her hands and sometimes getting dirty to get a job done. Since these are qualities that many men possess, I think it makes her easier to relate to for us menfolk. She's beautiful and sweet but not too prissy or intimidating.

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Monday, May 24, 2004 8:12 PM

QUICKSAND

There are about 8 million responses on this topic, so I'll just throw my 2 cents in somewhere on the top:

For ages, the debate has been: Ginger or Mary Ann? Which one would you rather? "Gilligan's Island" was written for the answer to be Ginger. But it wasn't, my friends. It's Mary Ann, isn't it? HELL YES.

With Firefly, we're given a 3rd archetype-- Zoe. And Gina Torres seems nice and all, but DUDE. Kaylee's got that spirit... a real person, someone a guy can hang out with. You think the average dude can relate to Inara? Sure, she's got training and all, but... whatever. If a girl taught me how to change the oil in my car, I think I'd have to jump her. Especially if she looked good in an evening gown, too.

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Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:09 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL

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Originally posted by Quicksand:
If a girl taught me how to change the oil in my car, I think I'd have to jump her. Especially if she looked good in an evening gown, too.

I assume you know how to change the oil in your car, right? I can show you how, my dad taught me that when I was 10. No jumping, I hardly know ya, but I can help with the oil.

www.thatweirdgirl.com

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Tuesday, May 25, 2004 11:01 AM

PURPLEBELLY

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Originally posted by Quicksand:
With Firefly, we're given a 3rd archetype--

Sure, we've got the virgin, the whore and the mother, and yes, we have the hag too. It's just that the virgin isn't exactly a virgin, the whore is a companion, the mother has no offspring and the hag is awful pretty.

That Whedon guy must have been educated in Europe

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Tuesday, May 25, 2004 11:54 AM

FREEDOM

Quote:

Here it is plain and simple---

Skinny women are ugly.

--Jefé The Hat

Well, excuse me! I think curves on a woman are nice, me being one, but I am petite and have a very boyish figure, not much curves at all. My body is more like River's than Kaylee's. I don't intentionally make myself skinny, that's just the way I am. Oh and I do have some fat on my tummy area, no rock hard abs there.

I think Kaylee's whole appeal is in her attitude. It's contagious. And she's always willing to do things. And she has a lovely smile. Overall, she's a girl who makes everyone feel comfortable, and that's why people want to be around her.

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Tuesday, May 25, 2004 1:20 PM

QUICKSAND

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I assume you know how to change the oil in your car, right? I can show you how, my dad taught me that when I was 10. No jumping, I hardly know ya, but I can help with the oil.

I wasn't saying it was, like, a sexual deal breaker or anything-- just that an attractive woman who also knows how to change the oil in her car, is FIFTY times more attractive than, say, a woman who can color-coordinate her lipstick with her purse.

I can't change the oil in my car, but I know how to do laundry and I can cook a few things. Except, in a real manly way, not like it sounded.

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Tuesday, May 25, 2004 1:24 PM

QUICKSAND

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Sure, we've got the virgin, the whore and the mother, and yes, we have the hag too. It's just that the virgin isn't exactly a virgin, the whore is a companion, the mother has no offspring and the hag is awful pretty.

Well let's not turn this into a critique on women. The show also has extra Male Archetypes now... The Level-Headed Take-Charge Type, the Sensitive Silent Type, the Zen-Like Father Figure, the Joke-Making Guy, and the Sex-Obsessed Manchild.

And all these years I thought the boys got Ginger vs. Mary Ann, and the girls got Luke Skywalker vs. Han Solo.

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Tuesday, May 25, 2004 1:31 PM

THATWEIRDGIRL

Deal! I will change the oil if you will do laundry. I hate doing laundry.

www.thatweirdgirl.com

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Wednesday, May 26, 2004 1:09 PM

QUICKSAND

That's where you and I differ.

If you'd be so kind as to TEACH me how to change the oil, then I'd gladly do it. I like learning new things. I'm a learner.

You... well, no one wants to be forced to learn how to do laundry, but I'd be willing to show you how to cook a cheeseburger properly.

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